KID 80 TOUCH Keyboard Instruction Manual

AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER
ATTACHMENTS LIST
MANUAL FOR USE AND MAINTENANCE
KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL
SPARE PARTS BOOK
SCHEMATICS
EC CONFORMITY DECLARATION FOR MACHINE
KID 80 - IV Touch
EN KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL
Rel. 0 Date# 01/07/2015 Cod.806015445
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COMPILER Bosi Andrea
ON APPROVAL Moretti Maurizio
This manual is a translation of the original document

MANUFACTURER IEMCA A BUCCI AUTOMATIONS DIVISION
ADDRESS Via Granarolo, 167 - 48018 Faenza (RA) - ITALY
Tel. 0546/698000 - Fax. 0546/46224
TYPE OF DOCUMENT KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL
PRODUCT AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER
MODEL KID 80 - IV Touch
IEMCA A BUCCI AUTOMATIONS DIVISION

Via Granarolo, 167
48018 - Faenza (RA) Italy
Tel. 0546/698000 - Fax. 0546/46224
INDEX
1 BASIC INFORMATION KID 80 SIV ..................................................................................... 1

1.1 Control description .............................................................................................................. 3
2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV ................................................................................ 1

2.1 AUTOMATIC CYCLE START................................................................................................ 2
2.2 OFFSET PROCEDURE (ADJUSTMENT) ............................................................................. 3
2.3 CYCLE PERFORMING MODE IN THE STEP-BY-STEP FUNCTION................................... 4
2.4 BAR FEEDER STOP ............................................................................................................. 5
2.5 0-AXIS PROCEDURE (MANUAL MODE) ............................................................................. 6
2.6 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: OPERATION MODE ............................................................. 8
2.7 PARAMETER ACCESSING AND DISPLAY ......................................................................... 9
2.7.1 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS .............................................. 10
2.7.2 ACCESSING AND DISPLAYING SUBJECT MENU PARAMETERS ................................. 12
2.8 PARAMETER MODIFICATION ........................................................................................... 14
2.9 EXITING THE PARAMETERS............................................................................................. 15
2.10 PROGRAMME ARCHIVE ON SD MEMORY ...................................................................... 16
2.11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION .................................................................... 20
2.12 ERRORS - CAUSES - SOLUTIONS.................................................................................... 57
2.13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA: DISPLAY MODE .................................................... 71
3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV .......................................................................... 1

3.1 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: DISPLAY ............................................................................. 2
3.2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS .............................. 2
3.3 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION .................................................................... 5
3.4 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES: DESCRIPTION ............................................ 6
3.5 AXIS FUNCTION PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ............................................................ 16
3.6 INTERFACE PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION .................................................................... 20
3.7 GENERAL PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ....................................................................... 21
4 INFORMATION FOR THE AUTHORISED TECHNICIAN KID 80 SIV ................................ 1

4.1 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: ENTERING AND CHECKING ............................................. 2
4.2 MODIFYING THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS ................................................................. 2
5 ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV ............................................................................................... 1

INDEX
5.1 ASSISTANCE REQUEST ...................................................................................................... 2

A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA ..................................................... 3
B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR.......................................................................... 4
D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES ........................................................ 8
E PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS................................................................ 9
F PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE ....................................................................... 11
G GENERAL PARAMETER LIST ........................................................................................... 12
1 - BASIC INFORMATION KID 80 SIV EN
INDEX
1.1 Control description ...................................................................................................3
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EN 1 - BASIC INFORMATION KID 80 SIV
Iemca reserves the right to make changes to the products described herein at any
time.
Thus, this document may not not exactly match the product.
The data contained herein relate to a product range and are not specific to the serial
number appearing on the cover.
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1.1 Control description
INFORMATION:
From the touch keyboard you can start the bar feeder in Automatic mode, even
when the lathe "MAN/AUT" signal is in Manual mode.
INFORMATION:
When the bar feeder is in Automatic mode, the bar feeding is possible only when
the Lathe "MAN/AUT" signal is in Automatic mode.
INFORMATION:
By pressing the Manual mode button on the touch keyboard, you can prevent the
lathe from starting the bar feeder in Automatic mode.
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The figure represents the control position on board the machine.
1 TOUCH-SCREEN: display and main controls

2 MAIN SWITCH: turns the power supply on and off.
- Position 0 (OFF) the machine is not powered.
- Position I (ON) the machine is powered.
3 EMERGENCY STOP PUSH-BUTTON: stops the bar feeder in case of emergency. For restart
release the push-button manually.
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1.2
Keyboard control description
ID Progr.9 AUTOMATIC MODE 0
Open Collet
Total pieces: Machinable pieces:
1 Function access, bar loading and new set-up (guide channel and bar pusher replacement)
button.
2 Programme save or recovery management access button.
3 Selects the "Operator Parameters" mode.
4 Selects the "Iemca Parameters" mode.
5 Error reset button: to restart the bar feeder after the stop caused by an error, press the
button and hold it down until the bar feeder is started.
6 Bar feeder stop button (red light): press this button to stop the bar feeder and reset the
"Errors".
7 Selects the semi-automatic mode.
Press to select, press again to deselect.
8 Activates the "step by step" operating cycle: every time the button is pressed, one step is
performed.
9 Selects the manual mode.
10 Selects the automatic mode.
11 It resets the "BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING" of the carriage.
Press the 0-AXIS button and release it when the carriage starts moving towards the "BAR
FEEDER ZERO SETTING" position.
12 Remnant detection disabling button
Press the button to feed a "new" bar without the detection of bar remnant in the bar pusher
collet.
13 Allows to return to the main menu display.
14 Moves the bar pusher at a low speed
15 Moves the bar pusher at high speed.
16 Displays the software and the push-button panel identification data.
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Open Collet
17 In the bar showed, warnings received from the bar feeder during machining procedures are
displayed. Their function is to guide the operator for correct operation of the machine. In
detail, the possible warnings are the following ones:
- K1: It is displayed at the right-hand side of the bar when the bar feeder is in the bar end
position. It will not be displayed under any other operating conditions.
- FEEDING STOP
- DOOR SAFETY
- SAFETIES FROM LATHE
- BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING MISSING
- MANUAL | AUTOMATIC SIGNAL FROM LATHE
- BAR PUSHER NOT IN POSITION!
- MOVE CARRIAGE TO BACK LIMIT STOP.
- CARRIAGE BACK
- AUTOMATIC MODE
- MANUAL MODE
- AUTOMATIC OR MANUAL MODE?
- SEMI-AUTOMATIC MODE
- CARRY OUT BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING: the machine requires a zero setting as a
reference (see manual controls).
- RESET WITH BUTTON: the machine is in alarm mode and requires zero setting by
pressing I (reset)
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Open Collet
18 The bar shows the bar feeder phase during machining, in detail:
- Bar feeder in stand-by

- Bar pusher return
- Zero axis
- Bar loading
- Bar first feeding
- Return after first feeding
- Facing phase
- Open collet
19 Displays the total number of machined pieces.
20 Graphic animation: it shows the feeding carriage and the bar pusher position (raised or
lowered) with respect to the bar feeder axis, in run-time mode.
21 Position from "0": it stands for the feeding carriage position with respect to the S1015 zero
axis sensor; Position from "F": it stands for the feeding carriage position with respect to the
maximum feeding position of the bar feeder.
22 Allows to enter a new menu that includes other keys.
23 Displays the number of machinable pieces.
24 It displays the bar feeder phase during machining procedures.
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2 - INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV EN
INDEX
2.1 AUTOMATIC CYCLE START .......................................................................................2
2.2 OFFSET PROCEDURE (ADJUSTMENT) ........................................................................3
2.3 CYCLE PERFORMING MODE IN THE STEP-BY-STEP FUNCTION ...................................4
2.4 BAR FEEDER STOP ...................................................................................................5
2.5 0-AXIS PROCEDURE (MANUAL MODE).......................................................................6
2.6 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: OPERATION MODE ...........................................................8
2.7 PARAMETER ACCESSING AND DISPLAY .....................................................................9
2.7.1 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS .............................................. 10
2.7.2 ACCESSING AND DISPLAYING SUBJECT MENU PARAMETERS ................................... 12
2.8 PARAMETER MODIFICATION .................................................................................. 14
2.9 EXITING THE PARAMETERS.................................................................................... 15
2.10 PROGRAMME ARCHIVE ON SD MEMORY ................................................................. 16
2.11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ................................................................ 20
2.12 ERRORS - CAUSES - SOLUTIONS ............................................................................ 57
2.13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA: DISPLAY MODE................................................. 71
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EN 2 - INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV
2.1 AUTOMATIC CYCLE START
1. Power on the lathe.
2. Power on the bar feeder, by turning the main switch to position I (ON) .
3. Start the bar feeder:
4. Select the manual mode:
5. Select the "BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING" of the carriage:
6. Bring the bar fore end close to the cutting tool:
7 Start the closing of the lathe collet and start working by selecting the automatic mode:
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2.2 OFFSET PROCEDURE (ADJUSTMENT)
Foreword
This procedure must be performed to optimize the bar feeder axis movements. This procedure
should be performed occasionally (once a month is recommended) to compensate any wear of
the mechanical feeding units that could alter the AXIS control operations.
INFORMATION:
Before performing the following procedure make sure that the mechanical parts
have no clearances and that the zero axis sensor is positioned correctly (it shall
not to be too retracted).
For the offset procedure perform the following operations in the given order:
1 - Set the machine to manual mode .

2 - Carry out the bar feeder zero setting .
3 - Bring the bar pusher carriage to the centre of the bar feeder .
4 - Provide the enabling signal for operations keeping the zero position sensor active using a
security block or screwdriver and check that the axis moves.
5 - If the axis does not move, go straight to point 6; if it moves, adjust the value of the
machine parameter no.70, under the item "Ax. Offset Compensat." in accordance with the
"displacement" movement that the axis is carrying out; if the axis moves forward
decrease the set value and if the axis moves towards zero, increase the set value. When
the axis is still and stays in position for at least 20 seconds, the value set can be
considered correct.
6 - Carry out an absolute movement (e.g.: the first movement in step by step) and make
sure, through the operator panel (OP), that the axis is positioned with a maximum error
of +/- 0.1 mm; make sure also that the position does not undergo variations.
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2.3 CYCLE PERFORMING MODE IN THE STEP-BY-STEP FUNCTION
Foreword
This mode may be used for many reasons, as for instance:
• to open the guide channels;

• to check a complete bar change cycle;
• to check the bar feeder mechanics;
• to load a single bar so as to check the facing;
• etc.
Procedure
1. press to start the bar feeder;

• check that the guide channels of the bar feeder are
closed. If not, close the guide channels in manual
mode. MANUAL MODE
2. press and then to select the semi-

automatic mode;
3. press , the bar feeder performs the first step

(bar pusher return);
4 press , the bar feeder performs the second step, and so on.
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2.4 BAR FEEDER STOP
Bar feeder stop in emergency.

1. Press the emergency button to stop the bar feeder.
WARNING - CAUTION
If the emergency stop is activated whilst the lathe is working, before restarting
the working cycle, check that no dangerous conditions have been created due to
the sudden stop. For example: if the tool was removing chips, move the tool
away from the work piece before restarting the lathe.
Stopping the bar feeder at the end of the machining cycle.
WARNING - CAUTION
When stopping the machine normally, do not use the emergency buttons.
1. Complete the operations of your working schedule.
2. Stop the bar feeder:
3. Stop the lathe.
4. Turn off the electrical supply of the bar feeder by turning the main switch to the 0 (OFF)
position.
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2.5 0-AXIS PROCEDURE (MANUAL MODE)
List of causes requiring the 0-Axis in manual mode:
- carrying out the manual 0-Axis periodically is recommended;

- if the bar pusher axis is moved by means of the crank or the lathe headstock is moved
with the bar feeder powered off (no power supply).
- if the feeding chain is tightened (by means of the mechanical chain tightener, see
Operation and Maintenance Manual, "Feeding chain - Adjustment").
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2.5.1 BAR LOADING CYCLE - FACING PROCEDURE

The following procedure describes the feeding of a new bar until the facing position is reached:
Set to manual mode
then press the key that allows to enter the
quick bar loading function to the facing position.
Press the key for 6 seconds
The bar feeder starts the bar loading cycle, which

stops when the new bar is positioned. The loading
cycle of the new bar takes into account parameter 3
(facing mode) and parameter 2 (facing position).
Guide channels or Bar feeder Bar

bar pusher Reset loading and
change facing
If the operator releases the key, the cycle goes
on until it is completed.
INFORMATION:
Without the open collet signal from lathe, the bar feeder carries out the above
mentioned procedure, but the bar stops before entering the lathe collet (waiting
for the open collet signal). With the open collet signal from lathe, the bar is
loaded and positioned past the lathe collet according to parameters 2 and 3.
WARNING - CAUTION:
Check that the bar to be loaded in the magazine is present.
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2.6 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: OPERATION MODE
These parameters are needed for the bar feeder automatic cycle programming and should be
set according to the working requirements as well as to the lathe type that is connected to the
bar feeder. Some parameters concern the working phase, while others are used for the bar
change phase.
WARNING - CAUTION
The parameters are set to a default value (preset value): the bar feeder
performs the automatic cycle according to these values. Some parameters may
not be appropriate for the lathe type or the type of machining requested.
The main operation modes are listed hereunder:
- Accessing the parameters

- Parameter display
- Parameter modification
- Subparameter display
- Subparameter modification
- Exiting the parameters
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2.7 PARAMETER ACCESSING AND DISPLAY
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2.7.1 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS
1. When the bar feeder is switched on

the main screen appears: AUTOMATIC OR MANUAL?
Bar feeder waiting
2. Enter "Main Menu" mode:

Select "OPERATOR PARAMETERS" .
3. Select the "Select Parameter List" button OPERATOR Parameters

Selection
SELECT by SUBJECT
SELECT the NUMBER
BROWSE the LIST
parameter 1 is now displayed
no. 1 Bar end adjustment
Bar end 100
Bar end 300

(K1A)
Bar end 500
(K1B)
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4. Press the buttons: or

all the other parameters will appear in sequence.
no.2 Facing length
Press the "SELECT PARAMETER NUMBER" button to access the desired parameter
immediately (see step 6).
OPERATOR Parameters
Selection
To select the desired parameter, proceed as SELECT by SUBJECT
follows: SELECT the NUMBER
BROWSE the LIST
5. Enter "OPERATOR Parameters" mode
Press "PARAMETER NUMBER"
6. "OPERATOR Parameters Selection" screen will be displayed

on the screen, press:
IEMCA Parameters
Selection
Enter Parameter No. (0.100)
and carry on...
7. Enter the parameter number, for example "1"; the
1
parameter value changes from 0 to 1; confirm:
8. To return to the short Menu press and

proceed as described in Section 2.6.1.
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2.7.2 ACCESSING AND DISPLAYING SUBJECT MENU PARAMETERS
1. When the bar feeder is switched on, the entry screen is displayed:
Select "Specialized Operators":
AUTOMATIC OR MANUAL?
Bar feeder waiting
2. Enter "Main Menu" mode:

Select "OPERATOR PARAMETERS".
OPERATOR Parameters
Selection
SELECT by SUBJECT
SELECT the NUMBER
BROWSE the LIST
3. Select the "Select parameter subjects" button
OPERATOR Parameters
Selection
FEEDING
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4. "OPERATOR Parameters Selection" screen will be displayed
OPERATOR Parameters
Selection
FEEDING
FEEDING
CHECKS
SETTINGS
PULSES
INTERFACE
FACING
SwTP
5. Select the desired subject from the drop down list.
FEEDING
0 - Thrust to the limit stop
Workpiece length
- Open collet speed

- Closed collet speed
6. Press the buttons:

to access the parameters of the desired subject.
7. To return to the home page press and FEEDING
proceed as described in Section 2.6.1. - Open collet thrust delay
- Closed collet thrust delay
- Feeding torque
- K15 disabling
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2.8 PARAMETER MODIFICATION
1. The desired parameter should be displayed:
"Parameter screen example"
2. Select the parameter value: no. 1 Bar end adjustment

Bar end 100
Bar end 0
Selected value: 100 (mm) (K1A)
Bar end 0
(K1B)
3. Enter the value to be assigned, for example "300",
300
and confirm:
the value changes from 100 to 300
Bar end 300
Bar end 0
(K1A)
Bar end 0
(K1B)
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4. At this stage the value is no longer blinking. If the value is not confirmed when entered, the
last value will reappear.
Bar end 100
Bar end 0
(K1A)
Bar end 0
(K1B)
2.9 EXITING THE PARAMETERS
1. Exit the "parameter display" mode:
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2.10 PROGRAMME ARCHIVE ON SD MEMORY
"Programmes" Download/Save mode makes it possible to download into the bar feeder PLC the
complete setting programmes coming from the SD card connected to the Touch keyboard. Also
an already existing programme can be directly saved from the PLC into the SD card.
DOWNLOAD A PROGRAMME FROM USB TO PLC
1. Press the manual key , then stop with to

enter the Main Menu screen
PRESS START
Press the key, the display will show

"PROGRAMMES"
2. Press "Programmes"; screen "choose programme" PROGRAMMES
from 1 to 500 will be displayed
Choose the programme...
Programme No.(1..100)
000
3. Press the key to select the desired programme

number.
PROGRAMMES
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.(1..100):
001
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4. Press the or the key to enter the

desired programme number. Press the key
PROGRAMMES
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
002
5. Press "Yes" to continue the download

procedure; otherwise, press "No" .
Download
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Are you sure you want to continue?
6. The "Data writing in progress" procedure is

displayed for a few seconds.
Download
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Data writing in progress
7. When the procedure is complete the display shows: "Data writing completed".
Download
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Data writing completed
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8. Press "Exit" to return to the home screen, the

display will show: "Main Menu".
PRESS START
Programme name:
SAVE A PROGRAMME FROM PLC TO USB
Repeat the procedure explained up to step 4 in the

PROGRAMMES
"DOWNLOAD FROM USB TO PLC" instructions.
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
1. Press the or the key to enter the desired 001
programme number. Press the Save key.
2. Enter the name that will identify the stored programmed.
SAVE
Confirm/enter the name of the programme to be saved
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
3. Press "Yes" to continue the download procedure; otherwise, press "No". The home screen
"PROGRAMMES" will be displayed.
Save
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Are you sure you want to continue?
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4. The "Data reading in progress" procedure is displayed for a few seconds.
Save
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Data writing in progress
5. A screen is displayed that asks to press the

key to continue.
Download
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Data reading completed
7. When the procedure is complete the display

shows: "Data save completed", press
Download
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Data save completed
8. When the procedure is complete the display shows: "Data save completed", press EXIT
Download
Programme name:
Boss 21 N
Programme No.:
001
Data save completed
Backup Ok!
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2.11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION

Defines the position where the bar feeder should 1
send the "bar end" signal to the lathe. no. 1 Bar end adjustment
This value is referred to point (F) (maximum bar Bar end 100
pusher feeding point), and corresponds to the
Bar end 300
piece length plus the cutting tool thickness. (K1A)
Bar end 500
(K1B)
Parameter:
A - Bar end adjustment
Subparameters: DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
Kid 80 Kid 80
B - Bar end K1A adjustment
C - Bar end K1B adjustment
A 100 /
B 300 /
C 500 /
The "Bar end 1 adjustment" subparameter can be used for three separate functions.
1) the subparameter sends an interface signal to the bar feeder-lathe (2nd Bar end);
2) the subparameter allows opening the additional bush;
3) The subparameter sends an interface signal to the bar feeder-lathe (prevents the
headstock from completing the return stroke).
INFORMATION:
Using the "Bar End 1 Adjustment" no. 1 Bar end adjustment
subparameter rules out the possibility for Bar end 100
one of the the above mentioned functions of
being used simultaneously with the other Bar end
(K1A)
300
Bar end 500

(K1B)
1) the subparameter sends an interface signal to
the bar feeder-lathe
Defines the position where the bar feeder should send
the Bar End Signal 1 to the lathe.
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This value refers to point (F) (maximum bar pusher feeding point), and is a higher length than
value (A).
The lathe enters a subprogram corresponding to a new machining cycle, where the length of the
piece to be machined is shorter than the one of the main program.
INFORMATION:
If the Bar End Adjustment subparameter 1 is used, the bar end adjustment value
should be set according to the length of the piece in the 2nd working cycle.
2) the subparameter allows opening the additional bush

Procedure for setting the "Bar End 1 Adjustment" subparameter for the additional
bush opening
a) Additional bush opening synchronized with the length of the machined piece
- Move the lathe headstock "K" in its completely forwards limit stop position;
- move the bar pusher "S" forwards without the
bar inside the guide channel positioning the
front part at about 30 mm from the additional
PRESS START
bush "L";
- Check the value relative to the position "F" on
the display (which by definition is called
"PdF1")
- the measured value shall be added to the
value set in the "Bar End Adjustment"
parameter and inserted in "Bar End 1
Adjustment" parameter
b) Additional bush opening at a fixed value
- Move the lathe headstock "K1" in its completely back limit stop position;
- move the bar pusher "S" forwards without the bar inside the guide channel positioning
the front part at about 30 mm from the additional bush "L";
- Check the value relative to the position "F" on the display (which by definition is called
"PdF1")
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- the measured value shall be added to the value set in the "Bar End 1 Adjustment"
subparameter
INFORMATION:
The additional bush accessory on the lathe is installed if applicable from the
lathe-bar feeder mechanical interface or upon customer's request.
3) The subparameter sends an interface signal to the bar feeder-lathe (prevents the
headstock from completing the return stroke).
There is a condition in which the length of the loaded bar plus the length of the bar pusher
added to the max headstock stroke is greater than the distance between the 0-axis sensor and
the lathe collet. If the headstock moves back with closed collet, the bar and the bar pusher may
exceed the maximum stroke allowed (causing a mechanical collision or a bar deformation).
If a value greater than or equal to 1500 mm (value is referred to point F) is set in the
subparameter (B), its function becomes that of "headstock overrun safety".
INFORMATION:
warning: with a value lower than 1500mm, subparameter "B" remains available
for functions 1) and 2).
INFORMATION:
Warning: during the bar change cycle, the signal is disabled.
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no. 2 Facing length

Defines the movement of the bar fore end
according to point (C) (facing point). 2
Both positive and negative values.
no. 2 Facing length
B - Parameter 2 (positive value)
D - Parameter 2 (negative value)
DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
Kid 80 Kid 80
10 /
no. 3 Facing mode

Defines the facing operation.
0 - (TO THE LIMIT STOP); once the bar has 3
exceeded the value defined in parameter 2, it
proceeds until the bar limit stop or until the no. 3 Facing mode
tool. in position
1 - (IN POSITION); the bar is positioned in the
point defined in parameter 2.
Kid 80 Kid 80
in position /
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Subparameters:
B - Overrun admitted after (CHK with 0 mm is

excluded)
3
C - Facing to limit stop (Vmax) no. 3 Facing mode
D - Facing to limit stop (Cmax)
to the limit stop
Overrun admitted after "I"

(CHK with 0 mm is excluded)
Facing to the limit stop (Vmax)
Facing to the limit stop (Cmax)

Kid 80 Kid 80
A to the limit stop to the limit stop/in
position
B 0 0
C 10 /
D 35 /
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no. 4 Short feeding safety

During every feeding stage, it checks that the
bar does not go further than the value set in 4
parameter 6 and keeps the tolerance level set
in parameter 4. Should this not occur for any no. 4 Short feeding safety
reason, when the lathe cuts the "FEEDING"
signal, the bar feeder goes into "ALARM".
If parameter 6 is set to 0, this parameter is not
active.
A - Parameter 4
B - Parameter 6

Kid 80 Kid 80
0 /
0 - (Not enabled for first piece); the parameter is active for all feeding operations except for
the first piece.
1 - (Enabled for first piece): the parameter is active for every feeding operation (the facing
phase excepted).
INFORMATION
The short piece control cannot be performed in sliding headstock lathes (bar
feeding is carried out by the headstock).
INFORMATION:
Setting the subparameter to 1 (Enabled for first piece), the "short piece"
(parameter 4) checks are activated straight after the first piece.
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no. 5 Long feeding safety

During every feeding stage, it checks that the bar 5
does not go further than the value set in
parameter 6 added to the value set in parameter no. 5 Long feeding safety
5. Should this not occur for any reason, the bar

feeder goes into "ALARM".
If parameter 6 is set to 0, this parameter is not
active.
C - Parameter 5
D - Parameter 6
Kid 80 Kid 80
0 /
0 - (Not enabled for first piece); the parameter is active for all feeding operations except for
the first piece.
1 - (Enabled for first piece): the parameter is active for every feeding operation (the facing
phase excepted).
INFORMATION
In the sliding headstock lathe, you can use this parameter to check for any tool
breakages; enter a value of a few millimetres (maximum 5 mm).
INFORMATION:
Setting the subparameter to 1 (Enabled for first piece), the "short piece"
(parameter 4) checks are activated straight after the first piece.
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no.6 Piece length

Defines the feeding value at each collet
opening. 6
This parameter is active only if parameter 35 is no.6 Piece length
set to "1" or "2".
When parameter 35 is set to "0", this parameter

is not active.
A parameter 6
B about 4 mm
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no. 7 Open collet speed

Defines the "FEEDING" speed value.
7
no. 7 Open collet speed
Vmax
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no. 9 Open collet thrust delay

At the "FEEDING" signal from the lathe, the bar
pusher delays the feeding in accordance to the set 9
time.
Application example: it should be used when the no. 9 Open collet thrust delay
mechanical movement of the collet opening is slow sec.
(double-cone collet).
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0 /
no. 10 Closed collet thrust delay

At the "closed collet" signal from the lathe, the
bar pusher continues pushing in accordance to the 10
set time.
Application example: it should be used when the no. 10 Closed collet thrust delay
mechanical movement of the collet closing is slow sec
(double-cone collet).
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0 /
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no. 11 Collet entry slowdown

Defines the length of the slowdown section
from (F) to (G). Along this section the bar 11
moves at the collet entry speed (see parameter
12). no. 11 Collet entry slowdown
mm
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F = collet entry slowdown start referred to (C);

G = see subparameter (N) of Parameter 14;
C = Collet outer alignment Parameter 64;
I = Facing (Parameter 64 + Parameter 2), in
the example in the picture the hypothetical
value entered in Parameter 2 = 100 mm. The
value can be either positive or negative, for
further information see Parameter 2.
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no. 12 Collet entry speed

Defines the value by which the speed is reduced in
the slowdown section (see parameter 11 "A"). 12
no. 12 "Collet entry speed"
From "Collet entry slowdown" mm/sec.

To "pulse window end"
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no. 13 Collet entry torque

Defines the thrust value that the bar receives
during its feeding in the lathe collet. 13
It is active in the slowdown section (see no.13 Collet entry torque
parameter 11). From "Collet entry slowdown" C/max
To "pulse window end"
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40 /
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no. 14 Pulse number

Defines the number of pulses that the bar receives
so as to simplify its feeding into the lathe collet. 14
It is active in any point inside the "pulse window".
Description of the phase order: no. 14 Pulse number
- the bar enters the pulse phase; Pul.with closed collet
- the bar meets the obstacle (the collet); the 20 0 with closed collet
pulses start; Pulse window start +400.000 mm

- the bar exits the pulse phase.
Pulse window end +20.000 mm
Subparameters for setting the pulse window:

M - Pulse phase window start referred to (C);
N - Pulse phase window end referred to (I), the
"collet entry slowdown" (G) simultaneously DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
ends.
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A 20 /
M 400 /
INFORMATION N 20 /
To prevent unnecessary machine stops,

it is recommended to enter a high value in the subparameter (M).
INFORMATION
If the bar meets an obstacle before entering the pulse window section, the bar
feeder goes into "ALARM" (15 Stationary position before pulses).
C = Collet outer alignment Parameter 64;

I = Facing (Parameter 64 + Parameter 2), in the
example in the picture the hypothetical value
entered in Parameter 2 = 100 mm. The value can
be either positive or negative, for further
information see Parameter 2.
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no. 15 Pulse stroke

Defines the length of the forward and backward
stroke of the pulses (see parameter 14). 15
no. 15 Pulse stroke
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no. 18 Spindle pulses - on-time

Defines the duration of the ON pulse that the
lathe receives to make the spindle turn. 18
This is necessary to simplify the entry of the
shaped bars into the collet. no. 18 Spindle pulses on-time
Description of the phase order:
- the bar moves into the slowdown section

(see parameter 11);
- the bar meets the obstacle (the collet) and
the lathe receives the pulses to start turning
the spindle for the set time;
- the spindle slows down and then stops (for
the time defined in parameter 19); DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
- the bar receives the feeding pulse;
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- if the bar is fed into the collet, the cycle
goes on; 0.5 /
- if the bar does not enter into the collet, the

previous phases will be repeated.
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no. 19 Spindle pulses - off-time

Defines the duration of the OFF pulse given to the
lathe to slow down and stop the spindle, prior to 19
the following rotation pulse (see phase description
in parameter 18). no. 19 Spindle pulses off-time
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0.5 /
no. 20 Cycle start delay

When the bar is in the facing position (see
parameter 2), the "cycle start" signal of the lathe 20
can be delayed for a preset value (K15).
Application example: it is necessary to have the no. 20 Cycle start delay
“cycle start” signal delay when the spindle needs a
certain time to reach the operating rotation speed.
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0 /
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no. 21 Remnant handling
0 - (Removal) (Subparameter Off) 21

1 - (Ejection)
2 - (Bar change advance no first feeding) no. 21 Remnant handling
3 - (Bar change advance no facing)
0 - (Removal) (Subparameter Off)

- at the bar end, the bar pusher and the
remnant are in the spindle of the lathe;
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1 0/1/2/3
- the bar pusher and the remnant reach the "completely backwards" position, the remnant is
removed from the collet and falls into the remnant recovery box.
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Mode 1 - (Ejection) 2 - (Bar change advance) 3 - (Bar change advance, no facing)

Foreword
To enable one of the two modes, the lathe should have a subprogramming function.
The subprogram should control the bar stop removal at the bar end signal.
The bar stop removal allows the ejection of the remnant from side (A) of the lathe.
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1 - (Ejection)
It is possible to choose among the two following solutions:
a) Ejection with the new bar.
b) Ejection with the bar pusher.
a) Ejection with the new bar.

(B) - The lathe receives the "BAR END" signal from the bar feeder, finishes the machining of
the last piece, then goes in the subprogram (bar stop removal) and sends the "FEEDING"
and the "BAR CHANGE" signals;
(C) - The bar pusher moves up to point F (maximum feeding point of the bar pusher) and
the bar feeder carries out the bar change;
(D) – Through the feeding, the new bar ejects the remnant and moves into the facing
position.
b) Ejection with the bar pusher.
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Move point F (maximum bar pusher feeding point, see parameter 29) to the collet alignment.
PHASE 1 - the lathe receives the "BAR END" signal from the bar feeder, finishes the
machining of the last piece, then goes in the subprogram (bar stop removal) and sends the
"FEEDING" and the "BAR CHANGE" signals;
PHASE 2B - the bar pusher moves up to point F, ejects the remnant and the bar feeder
carries out the bar change.
2 - (Bar change advance no first feeding)

Allows the bar feeder to carry out the bar change while the lathe has started machining the last
piece. Thus, the bar change starts in advance, i.e. before the last piece machining ends and the
bar pusher attains point F. The remnant is ejected only with the new bar.
Necessary conditions.
- Set the interface signal 85 "LOADING CYCLE", in position 1 (=NC) and set parameter 21,
"REMNANT HANDLING", in mode 2.
- use the "BAR CHANGE ADVANCE" lathe signal (applicable only to lathes which have this
function).

- the lathe receives the "BAR END" signal, with the above mentioned conditions;
- the bar feeder carries out the return of the bar pusher and loads a new bar in the guide
channels whilst awaiting the "FEEDING" and "BAR CHANGE" signals;
- as soon as the last piece has been machined, the lathe enters the subprogram (bar stop
removal) and sends both the "BAR FEEDING" and "BAR CHANGE" signals
- the new bar moves forwards, ejects so the remnant and reaches the facing position.
3 - (Bar change advance no facing)

Allows the bar feeder to carry out the bar change while the lathe has started machining the last
piece. Thus, the bar change starts in advance, i.e. before the last piece machining ends and the
bar pusher attains point F. The remnant is ejected only with the new bar.
Necessary conditions.
- Set the interface signal 85 "LOADING CYCLE", in position 1 (=NC) and set parameter 21,
"REMNANT HANDLING", in mode 3.
- Use the "LOADING CYCLE" lathe signal (applicable only to lathes which have this function).
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- the lathe receives the "BAR END" signal, with the above mentioned conditions;
- the bar feeder carries out the bar pusher return, loads a new bar in the guide channels,
carried out first feeding and bar loading in the bar feeder collet and then awaits the
"FEEDING" and "BAR CHANGE" signals;
- as soon as the last piece has been machined, the lathe enters the subprogram (bar stop
removal) and sends both the "BAR FEEDING" and "BAR CHANGE" signals;
- the new bar begins the facing phase until it reaches the position indicated in parameter 2,
the bar feeder sends the cycle start signal to the lathe.
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no. 22 Open collet timeout

This is the maximum duration time of the
FEEDING phase ("OPEN COLLET"). 22
If for any reason the bar feeder remains with the
feeding enabling signal ("FEEDING" signal from no. 22 Open collet timeout
lathe) for a longer time than the set one, it goes
in "ALARM".
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no. 23 Piece timeout

This is the maximum duration of the piece
machining. 23
If for any reason the period for machining of a
piece exceeds the set time, the bar feeder will no. 23 Piece timeout
activate the "ALARM".
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no. 25 Bar feeding handling

0 - (FEEDING END WITH BAR CHANGE): the bar
feeder will stop feeding when the BAR CHANGE 25
signal is received.
1 - (FEEDING END WITH K1): in the presence of no. 25 Feeding handling
the BAR END (K1) signal, the bar feeder stops 1 - Feeding stop with bar end
the feeding.

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1 0/1
no. 26 Pieces before the lathe stop

VALUE 0 - The parameter function is disabled.
VALUE >0 - When the set value of pieces 26
machined is reached, the bar feeder calls the
stop of the lathe whilst "FEEDING". no.26 Pieces before lathe stop
0 0

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0 0/>0
VALUE >0 - Application example.

1.Set value at 1000:
the display shows:

no. 26 Pieces before lathe stop
:>1000 (0)
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2.Start machining.
After finishing 1,000 pieces, the bar feeder will
command the lathe stop.
the display shows: no. 26 Pieces before lathe stop

:>1000 (1000)
To restart machining, the value in brackets should
be reset.
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no. 27 Minutes before the lathe stop

VALUE 0 - The parameter function is disabled.
VALUE >0 - When the minutes set have passed, 27
the bar feeder signals the lathe to stop
"FEEDING". no. 27 Minutes before lathe stop
0 0

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0 0
no. 28 Closed collet speed

Defines the "CLOSED collet" speed value.
28
no. 28 Closed collet speed
+20 Vmax

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no. 29 Max. feeding pos. adjustment

Defines the adjustments (+ or -) of point F
(maximum bar pusher feeding point). 29
Application examples: no. 29 Max. feeding pos. adjustment
- necessary when working with the bar pusher mm
ejection (see parameter 21, point b);
- necessary when the lathe collet is replaced
with one of different dimension.
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0 0
When the adjustments of point F are performed, parameter 1 is modified as shown in the
figure.
A - No adjustment
B - With adjustment +, for example + 10
C - With adjustment -, for example - 10
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no. 30 Language 1I
Defines the language of the information that
appear on the display: 30
1 - ITALIAN
no. 30 Language
2 - ENGLISH
3 - DEUTSCH
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no. 32 K1 immediate exit

0 - (with open collet K1 is not activated). When
detected, the bar end signal K1 is sent to the 32
lathe at the "COLLET CLOSING".
1 - (with open collet K1 is activated). When no. 32 K1 immediate exit
detected, the bar end signal K1 is immediately OFF
sent to the lathe during the "FEEDING" signal.
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OFF ON/OFF
no. 33 K2 inversion
0 - (K2 is on 1 at limit stop). During the feeding
signal, the K2 relay remains off during the bar 33
feeding; it is activated when the bar arrives at the
bar limit stop (encoder stop). no. 33 K2 inversion
1 - (K2 is on 0 at limit stop). The K2 relay is active OFF
during the bar feeding and off when the bar
reaches the bar limit stop (encoder stop).
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OFF ON/OFF
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no. 34 Feeding torque

Defines the thrust value received by the bar at
each "FEEDING". 34
no. 34 Feeding torque
Cmax
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40 /
no. 35 Fixed-piece feeding

0 - (AT THE LIMIT STOP). Carries out the
feeding to the bar limit stop. 35
1 - (AT FIXED VALUES). Carries out the piece
feeding, in accordance to the value set in no. 35 Fixed-piece feeding
parameter 6. 1 - Step feeding
2 - (AT FIXED VALUES AND THRUST TO THE Pos. +1025
LIMIT STOP). Carries out the piece feeding
according to the value set in parameter 6, stops
Speed 76200
at few millimetres from the bar limit stop, and Acc. 100
then carries out another feeding up to the bar Dec. 10

limit stop, until the FEEDING signal is active.
Subparameters: DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
B - Position Kid 80 Kid 80
C - Speed 1-Step feeding 0/1/2

D - Acceleration 0 /
E - Deceleration 0 /
0 /
0 /
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no. 36 K15 disabling

0 - (K15 ENABLED). Enables the warning at every
use of parameter 35 in position 1. 36
1 - (K 15 DISABLED). Disables the warning at every
use of parameter 35 position 1. no. 36 K15 Disabling
ON
no. 37 K15 duration

Defines the CYCLE START signal duration.
37
no. 37 K15 Duration
sec
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2 /
no. 38 K13 duration

Defines the CYCLE STOP signal duration.
38
no. 38 K13 Duration
sec
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0 /
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no. 39 Spindle stop

When the bar change is carried out the signal
stops the spindle. 39
0 - (RELAY DISABLED WITH BAR CHANGE). The
relay is disabled with the bar change. no. 39 Spindle stop
1 - (RELAY ALWAYS ENABLED). The relay is OFF
always enabled.
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OFF OFF/ON
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no. 40 Bar pusher return at collet closing

Defines the bar pusher backward displacement at
each "COLLET CLOSING". This displacement 40
prevents the bar pusher coming into contact with
the bar. no. 40 Collet closing bar pusher return
+50.00
Parameter: 41.131
50000.000
A - Position 95
95
The subparameters define the speed and

acceleration/deceleration during the closed collet DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
bar pusher movement. Kid 80 Kid 80
A 41.131 /
B - Speed B 50000.000 /
C - Acceleration C 95 /
D - Deceleration D 95 /
For fixed headstock or sliding rest lathes; set a displacement of some millimetres.
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For sliding headstock lathes; set the value of the headstock stroke plus some millimetres.
A Headstock stroke +2÷3 mm

B Headstock stroke
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no. 41 First feeding value (B)

During the FIRST FEEDING phase, the carriage
stops as soon as it reaches the value set in the 41
parameter.
mm
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1405 N=1075 L=1405 LL=1735
no. 42 Bar pusher return pause

"BAR PUSHER RETURN" signal timing.
42
no. 42 Bar pusher return pause
sec
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0.2 /
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no. 43 First feeding speed change

Allows changing the "FIRST FEEDING SPEED".
Parameter:
A - Speed type 43
0 - Slow
1 - Fast
Fast
Subparameters:
B - Speed 1 2000
C - Speed 2 2000 0 100

D - Acceleration
E - Deceleration
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A 1 /
B 20000 /
C 60000 /
D 100 /
E 15 /
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Parameter "Speed change in first feeding" 1 = Fast

Fast
2000
2000 0 100
Speed - Speed mm/minute

B - Space covered mm
V1 - Speed set in slow section
V2 - Speed set in fast section
F - V1 ramp acceleration
G - V2 ramp acceleration
H - Deceleration
L - Facing flag
Parameter "Speed change in first feeding" 0 = Slow

Slow
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no. 44 Axis operation
Subparameters: 44
A - Bar pusher stop with closed collet
B - Axis stop engagement delay no. 44 Axis operation
C - Closed collet torque Bar pusher stop OFF
The subparameters of this parameter control

with closed collet
Axis stop engagement 1 sec
some functions of the bar pusher movement. delay
Torque +20 Cmax
with closed collet
Bar pusher stop with closed collet - Axis
stop engagement delay
These two subparameters enable the feeding
motor stop (axis stop) with CLOSED COLLET, so
as to avoid that the bar slides off from the bar DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
pusher collet, due to the machining vibrations. Kid 80 Kid 80
OFF ON/OFF
1 /
INFORMATION +20 /
The function of these two

subparameters is applicable with
parameter 24 in modes 0 and 5. It is not applicable with modes 1, 2, 3 and 4.
Bar pusher stop with closed collet

0 - the bar pusher stop is off
1 - the bar pusher stop is on
Axis stop engagement delay

This subparameter allows setting a delay time for the axis stop engagement at every CLOSED
COLLET. This period of time allows you to "release" the bar feeder transmission devices, so as
to avoid useless tensions.
Closed collet torque

This subparameter allows adjusting the thrust value with which the bar pusher moves the bar
during the "CLOSED COLLET" signal.
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INFORMATION:
When working with Par.24 =1 (sliding
headstock with no synchronization no. 44 Axis operation
device) the "Closed collet torque" Bar pusher stop OFF
adjusts the thrust value with which the with closed collet
bar pusher moves the bar during the Axis stop engagement
delay
1 sec
"CLOSED COLLET" signal. Torque +20 Cmax

with closed collet
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2.12 ERRORS - CAUSES - SOLUTIONS
During the bar feeder set-up or the piece machining, the display may highlight errors or
messages.
Such errors or warnings may be caused by an incorrect programming, an incorrect manoeuvre,
or a mechanical or electrical fault.
When the errors are detected the bar feeder stops; to restore the automatic cycle carry out the
following procedure:
- restore the manual cycle;

- eliminate the cause of the error;
- restore the automatic cycle.
INFORMATION
All messages with "Error" must be reset by pressing .
When a warning is displayed the bar feeder does not stop and it is not necessary to reset the
machine.
The warnings appear when attempting to perform a manoeuvre which is not allowed by the
program and provide information for the operator during the machining.
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INFORMATION:
Some alarms have the same name as the sensor that triggered them (for
example "10-Bar feeder emergency S610.1"). The position of the sensor or
button can be located by means of the description shown on the display or by
means of the label inside the magazine guard.
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Button with the "general warning" symbol,

allows you to view the type of alarm causing the
machine to stop. Press Start
By pressing the button
10 Bar feeder emergency
The "Guidance text" explaining how to fix the error is displayed.
10 - Bar feeder emergency
Guidance text
Clear the emergency signals and press
the reset button.
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Press , the layout showing the position of the bar

feeder sensors is displayed.
Press to return to the main screen.
Press Start
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INFORMATION:
the alarms referring to a specific working phase are identified within the
"operating cycle" (see section 3.4).
INFORMATION:
All "Alarms" must be reset by pressing .
The alarm messages, their probable causes and related solutions are listed below.
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3 - ERROR: THE BAR FAILS TO ENTER INTO THE COLLET

The bar has met the first obstacle in the pulse window as defined in parameter 14 (pulse
window start - pulse window end) and has exceeded the entry attempts as defined in the same
parameter (pulse number).
CAUSE SOLUTION
3
Check the diameter of the bush. Warning
Bar fails to enter into the collet
If it is a shaped bar, check if the bar

The bar does not enter into the
entry kirving is correct on the rear part
collet or into the lathe bush.
of the collet.
If it is a shaped bar, check the spindle
rotation and if the pulse sequence is
correct.
The feeding speed and/or torque Check the speed (see parameter 12)
are not suitable. and/or the torque (see parameter 13).
4 - ERROR: GATE OPEN (S1008 Off)

Error: AT THE FIRST FEEDING STROKE START, THE SHORT FEED GATE IS OPEN.
CAUSE SOLUTION
4
Make sure that there are no foreign
bodies (chips, remnants, fragments) in Warning
The short feed gate is jammed and Gate open
the short feed gate movement area;
cannot be closed.
carry out the movement manually to
find any possible obstacles.
Operation failure of the solenoid Check the electromechanical operation
valve of the short feed gate closing. of the device.
Operation failure of the sensor, Make sure that to the short feed gate
which detects the short feed gate movement corresponds to the sensor
closing. state change.
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5 - ERROR: SHORT FEEDING

Error: A BAR PUSHER SHORT FEEDING MOVEMENT HAS BEEN DETECTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE SETTINGS OF PARAMETERS 5 and 6.
CAUSE SOLUTION
5
Check the tolerance values with
The tolerance values of parameters
regards to the length of the piece to be Warning
5 and 6 are too low. Short feeding
machined.
The lathe collet does not open Check the correct opening of the collet
correctly. (at least 0.5 mm).
Check the value relative to the position

of the bar pusher carriage on the
Encoder operation failure. display and check the effective variation
of the value with regards to the real
displacement of the carriage.
The thrust received by the bar is Check the values of parameters 7, 8

too low. and 34. "A" - Short piece safety
tolerance (subparameter
Par.5), Short feeding
safety (subparameter
Par.6).
The bar slides out of the collet
during the headstock stroke.
Check the bar pusher collet state. "C" - Headstock stroke
(Parameter Par.5).
Feeding (Parameter
Par.6).
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6 - LONG FEED
Warning: A BAR PUSHER LONG FEEDING MOVEMENT HAS BEEN DETECTED IN ACCORDANCE
WITH THE SETTINGS OF PARAMETERS 5 and 6.
CAUSE SOLUTION
6
Check the tolerance values with
The tolerance values of parameters
regards to the length of the piece to be Warning
5 and 6 are too low. Long feeding
machined.
The lathe bar limit stop is not in the Check the position of the bar stop on
correct position. the lathe.
Check the value relative to the position

of the bar pusher carriage on the
Encoder operation failure. display and check the effective variation
of the value with regards to the real
displacement of the carriage.
"B" - Long piece safety

Possible breakage of the cutting
tool.
Check the condition of the cutting tool. tolerance (subparameter
Par. 5) or Long feeding
(subparameter Par. 6).
"C" - Headstock stroke
The bar slides out of the collet
during the headstock stroke.
Check the bar pusher collet state. (Parameter "C" Par.5).
Piece feeding (Parameter
"C" Par. 6).
7 - ERROR: BAR TOO LONG
Error: DURING THE FIRST FEEDING STROKE OR DURING THE BAR DETECTION STROKE IN THE
“START-UP” PROCEDURE A BAR OF LONGER LENGTH THAN THAT SET IN PARAMETER 67
“MAXIMUM BAR LENGTH” IS MEASURED.
CAUSE SOLUTION
7
7 Error: bar too long
Reduce the length of the bar loaded.
The bar loaded is longer than the

maximum value set in parameter
67.
Check the value set in parameter 67.
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8 - PRESET QTY. REACHED, RESET - P26

Warning: THE BAR FEEDER HAS STOPPED AUTOMATICALLY DURING THE MACHINING PHASE.
CAUSE SOLUTION
8
Warning
Preset QTY. reached, reset!
The set quantity of pieces has been

Reset the number of pieces and restart.
reached.
9 - OPEN COLLET TIMEOUT

Warning: THE BAR FEEDER HAS STOPPED WITH THE ACTIVE FEEDING SIGNAL SINCE THE
OPEN COLLET "TIMEOUT" HAS ELAPSED.
CAUSE SOLUTION
9
Warning
Open collet timeout
In the AUTOMATIC mode the lathe

collet remained open for a longer Check the value of parameter 22, with
period than the one set in regards to the real "FEEDING" time.
parameter 22.
10 - BAR FEEDER EMERGENCY

Warning: THE GENERAL CONTROLS OF THE BAR FEEDER ARE NOT INSERTED.
CAUSE SOLUTION
10
An emergency button has been Check the state of the emergency Warning
pressed. button. Bar feeder emergency
Check whether the signal sequence

There is an emergency signal from
arriving from the lathe is continuous:
the lathe.
the signals must be all on or all off.
There is an open guard in the lathe
Check if the guards are closed.
or in the bar feeder.
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11 - WRONG FACING POSITION

In automatic mode, the facing position has been reached and the overrun position, as defined
in subparameter 3, has been exceeded.
CAUSE SOLUTION
11
When the bar does not stop in the
facing position (parameter 65), but Warning
exceeds this point by a value higher Make sure that the chain is correctly Wrong facing position
than or equal to the set value in the tensioned.

"Overrun admitted after I"
subparameter. This check is
performed only when the "FACING
IN POSITION" mode is active and if The values for "Facing and overrun
the set value in the "Overrun admitted after I" set by the operator are
admitted after I" subparameter is > wrong.
0.
13 - PIECE TIMEOUT
Warning: THE WORKING CYCLE FOR MACHINING A PIECE HAS TAKEN LONGER THAN THE TIME
SET IN PARAMETER 23.
CAUSE SOLUTION
13
Warning
The working cycle for machining a
Check the setting in parameter 23 with Piece timeout
piece has taken longer than the
regards to the working cycle.
time set in parameter 23.
The working cycle for machining a Make sure that the actual duration of
piece has undergone an the working cycle does not face
interruption or a slowdown. slowdowns or interruptions.
INFORMATION:
The alarm described above also appears when the following conditions are met:
in automatic mode with the open collet signal for 1 hour; in automatic mode
with the closed collet signal and parameter 24 Synchronization to 1 for 1 hour.
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15 - STATIONARY POSITION BEFORE PULSES

In automatic mode, during the facing jog, if the flag has been knocked down and the bar
pusher has stooped within the pulse window as defined in parameter 14. During the bar loading
phase, the bar pusher moves but it stops before knocking down the facing flag.
CAUSE SOLUTION
15
Make sure that there are no obstacles Warning
There is an obstacle inside the Stationary position before pulses
or diameter differences which could
spindle
interfere with the bar feeding.
The pulse window defined in

parameter 14 has not been set Check the value set in parameter 14.
correctly.
An inappropriate torque value has

Check the set torque value.
been set
A - Parameter 11
B - Area with error 27
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16 - AXIAL DISPLACEMENT NOT LOCKED (S1221 Off)

Warning: THE AXIAL DISPLACEMENT SENSOR IS NOT ACTIVE.
CAUSE SOLUTION
16
The axial displacement device is
Lock the axial displacement device. Warning
not locked. Axial displacement not locked
(S1221Off)
The sensor is faulty. Replace the sensor.
Check the distance between the sensor

Incorrect reading of the sensor.
and the relevant cam.
17 - MOTOR THERMAL CIRCUIT BREAKERS (E11.7)

A MOTOR THERMAL CIRCUIT BREAKER HAS TRIPPED.
CAUSE SOLUTION
17
Warning
Make sure that the involved motor can Motor thermal circuit breakers
run freely and check the correct thermal
calibration (according to the amperage).
The oil pump overheating has
occurred.
Check the motor input voltage.
2 - Pag. 68 / 71
18 - FAILURE DURING THE BAR CHANGE

Warning: THE BAR CHANGE WAS NOT COMPLETED IN THE PRESET TIME.
CAUSE SOLUTION
18
Warning
Failure during the bar change
When an unforeseen mechanical or
electrical error occurs, a safety time
Check the exact cause of the fault and
stops the machine if the bar change
reset the working cycle.
cycle does not occur in the preset
time.
19 - NO BAR
IN AUTOMATIC MODE, THE MECHANICAL FEEDING IS ACTIVATED BUT ITS PROCEDURE HAS
NOT BEEN COMPLETED AND THE COMPLETELY CLOSED CLAMP SENSOR IS ON.
CAUSE SOLUTION
19
Warning
The phase detector is not working No bar
properly.
Make sure that the phase detector on

the mechanical cam works properly
There is a mechanical obstacle
22 - MACHINE OK!
THIS IS A MESSAGE AND DOES NOT NEED A RESET. IT IS USED ONLY TO SEND AN SMS OR AN
EMAIL INFORMING ON THE AUTOMATIC RESET AFTER AN ALARM.
CAUSE SOLUTION
22
Warning
Machine OK!
This message appears for a few

seconds when the bar feeder is in Example: after resetting the emergency
automatic mode and the error has mushroom-head button.
been eliminated.
INFORMATION:
This message is used to send an sms or an email informing on the automatic
reset after an alarm. It can only be used by customers with IT infrastructures
that allow the connection of IEMCA bar feeder to the corporate network.
2 - Pag. 69 / 71
24 - THREAD SAFETY
Warning: THE LATHE HAS NOT CARRIED OUT THE THREADING OPERATION ON THE PIECE TO
BE MACHINED.
CAUSE SOLUTION
24
Check the effective functioning of the
Threading device failure. Warning
lathe device. Thread safety
Check the microswitch placed on the

Threading controlling device failure.
cam box of the thread safety.
Make sure that the lathe collet opens
The bar did not move to the last
correctly and check the bar feeder
"COLLET OPENING".
thrust (parameter 34).
25 - CARRY OUT THE 0-AXIS AFTER A POWER OFF-ON
THE ENCODER VALUE PRESET OPERATION WAS NOT CARRIED OUT CORRECTLY IN THE PRESET
TIME.
CAUSE SOLUTION
25
Warning
The PLC and drive connection 25 Carry out the 0-
axis after a power off-on
cable is broken.
Contact Iemca service department.
The drive is faulty.
2 - Pag. 70 / 71
2.13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA: DISPLAY MODE
The two following programs have been installed in the bar feeder:
- Push-button panel software;
- PLC/NC Software.
For many reasons (for example the request of assistance) it could be useful to display and
understand the program identification data of these
programs using the following procedure.
1. Enter the main screen:
To display the identification data of the "Push-button panel software" of the "PLC/NC
Software".
2. Select mode to
Project name: KID Test
Created: 01/01/2015 I/O
3. Display the screen where it is displayed:

Author: Electrical Engineering Department
Profinet
Description: Bar feeder I/O
IP
Addresses
Alarm
identification data of the push-button panel

History
software: [barra] SwOP:xxxxx [barra] SwTP v 0.1

PLC/NC software identification data: [barra] SwPLC v 0.2
SwCNC:xxxxx [barra]
2 - Pag. 71 / 71
3 - INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV EN
INDEX
3.1 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: DISPLAY ........................................................................2
3.2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS ................................2
3.3 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ................................................................5
3.4 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES: DESCRIPTION .............................................6
3.5 AXIS FUNCTION PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ........................................................ 16
3.6 INTERFACE PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ............................................................... 20
3.7 GENERAL PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION .................................................................. 21
3 - Pag. 1 / 23
EN 3 - INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV
3.1 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: DISPLAY
These parameters refer to the bar feeder configuration and the bar feeder-lathe interfacing. The
modification procedure is mainly necessary during the installation of the bar feeder by an
authorized technician.
Data entering or modifying in these parameters is possible only by using the special data
entering mode.
To access this mode, it is necessary to follow the procedure given in Section 4.2. The pages of
this section are only supplied to the technician authorized by the manufacturer.
WARNING - CAUTION
The parameters are set to a default value (preset value): the bar feeder
performs the automatic cycle according to these values.
The main display modes are the following:
- Access the protected parameters

- Display the protected parameters
- Display the protected subparameters
- Exit the protected parameters
3.2 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY THE PROTECTED PARAMETERS
1. Enter the "main screen"
2. Select "Iemca parameters"
3 - Pag. 2 / 23
"Connection" mode is displayed
Connection
Password
OK Cancel
3. Enter "Password" number, then
INFORMATION:
Should you need to check and modify
parameters between 46 and 100, please
contact Iemca Service Department
4. Select "Iemca parameters"
7. Select "BROWSE THE LIST"
SELECT the NUMBER

BROWSE the LIST
3 - Pag. 3 / 23
8. If the code is correct, the display will show the first protected parameter:
46
no. 46...
9. To display the protected parameters press: or

47
no. 47..
the display shows, for example:
10. Or, to display the desired parameter, start from step 6 and select "SELECT the NUMBER"
11. "OPERATOR Parameters Selection" screen will be
displayed
on the screen, press:
IEMCA Parameters
Selection
SELECT the NUMBER
and carry on...
BROWSE the LIST
0
3 - Pag. 4 / 23
11. Enter the parameter number, for example "47";

the parameter value changes from 0 to 47;
47
confirm:
a screen appears, then press
IEMCA Parameters
Selection
and carry on...
47
13. The display will show parameter 47:
47
no. 47..
3.3 PROTECTED PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION
Protected parameters are divided into the following sections:
- Parameters for the reference values (§ 3.4)

- Parameters for the axis functions (§ 3.5)
- Interface parameters (§ 3.6)
- General parameters (§ 3.7)
3 - Pag. 5 / 23
3.4 PARAMETERS FOR REFERENCE VALUES: DESCRIPTION
0) BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING

1) Carriage in its "completely backwards position"
2) Bar pusher in its "completely backwards position"
3) Carriage in "completely forwards position"
4) Short feed gate (flag)
5) Bar pusher in its "completely forwards position"
6) Spindle
7) Headstock in its "completely backwards position"
8) Headstock in its "completely forwards position"
9) Rest in its "completely backwards position"
10) Rest in its "completely forwards position"
(X) Fixed headstock lathe

(Y) Sliding headstock lathe
(Z) Sliding rest lathe
3 - Pag. 6 / 23

This parameter value should be entered.
This is the value of the first feeding stroke, that 60
is the distance between the front edges of the
first feeding carriage in "After removal no. 60 First feeding value (B)
movement" and "first feeding limit switch" mm
position (point B).
Kid 80 Kid 80
1720 /
no. 61 Feeding value (x)

This is the stroke value for the bar loading into
the bar pusher collet. 61
no. 61 Feeding value (x)
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
/ /
3 - Pag. 7 / 23
no. 62 Bush value (BO) (Parameter Off)

This is the position of the bar pusher carriage 62
where the half-bushes are opened; it can be
modified with parameter 16. no. 62 Bush value (BO)
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
32 N=2390 L=2060
LL=1730
37 N=2930 L=2600
2270
LL=2270
44 N=3590 L=3260
LL=2930
no. 63 Flag-collet distance (B1C)

This is the value of point C (facing point), that is 63
the distance from the short feed gate 12 (of the
bar feeder) and the front edge of the lathe collet. no. 63 Flag-collet distance (B1C)
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
1400 /
3 - Pag. 8 / 23
no. 64 Collet value (C)

The value of this parameter is predefined by the
program. 64
Distance (mm) that the bar pusher has to travel
to reach point C after the bar first feeding. no. 64 Collet value (C)
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
/ preset value
no. 65 Collet + facing value (C1)

program. 65
The number is given by the value of point C in
addition to the value of parameter 2. no. 65 Collet + facing value (CI)
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
/ preset value
3 - Pag. 9 / 23
no. 66 Maximum feeding value (F)

The F point is the maximum bar pusher feeding
point: this value corresponds to the bar pusher 66
stroke from its completely backwards position to
point F. no. 66 Maximum feeding value (F)
mm
This value changes according to the different
applications and should be entered by the
Installation Technician (see default value on the
side).
Kid 80 Kid 80
1400 /
3 - Pag. 10 / 23
no. 67 Lubrication stop value (L) (Parameter Off)

Value where the oil pump motor for the 67
lubrication of the guide channels stops.
no. 67 Lubrication stop value (L)
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
32 N=2710 L=2380
LL=2050
37 N=3250 L=2920
2380
LL=2590
44 N=3910 L=3580
LL=3250
no. 68 Guide channel opening max. value

program. 68
Position of the feeding carriage when the guide
channels open. no. 68 Guide channel opening max. value
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
/ /
3 - Pag. 11 / 23
no. 69 Maximum bar length

This parameter value should be entered. Set the
max. length of bars that are to be loaded. 69
no. 69 Maximum bar length
mm
Kid 80 Kid 80
1220 max 1615
3 - Pag. 12 / 23
OPERATING CYCLE - DESCRIPTION
START
Feedings
The bar feeder sends the

last piece machining end
signal to the lathe, the
lathe enters the bar change EJECTION
subprogram and sends the ADVANCES Phase
open collet and bar change
signals
1
** Movement to
position 0 at low Phase
speed and Chk zero 2
position sensor if
ok carry on
Phase
3
Phase
4
Phase
5
Phase
6
3 - Pag. 13 / 23
Bar First Feeding

Return Phase
6
Facing jog phase

where the machine Phase
can carry out the 7
pulses
Alarm 11:
Wrong facing Phase
Facing phase
position 8
The bar
feeder sends
the cycle
i l
END
INFORMATION:
**after powering the machine on or off, the first bar change cycle involves
PHASE 3, consisting in a slow movement to "0 position" in order to check that
the "0 position" coincides with the 0-Axis sensor (S1235) activation.
3 - Pag. 14 / 23
3 - Pag. 15 / 23
3.5 AXIS FUNCTION PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION
no. 70 FCMax
Defines the moving axis parameterization.
70
INFORMATION
no. 70 FCMax
Once the values for parameter 70 have mm
been set, turn off the power supply and
then turn it on again, if you want the
preset values to be self-learned. We
recommend not to modify these
parameters. However, if a modification
is necessary, contact IEMCA service
department.
Kid 80 Kid 80
/ /
INFORMATION:
The "FCMax" subparameter is the maximum value the bar pusher can reach
during feeding. Therefore, these values have to be considered in all the
parameters where a speed value may be set.
no.71 Speed reduction in manual mode

Defines the speed value by which the bar
pusher moves in manual mode. This value is 71
expressed as a percentage of the maximum
speed. no. 71 Speed reduction in manual mode
CURRENT VALUE Vmax
Parameters:
A - Speed reduction in manual mode
Forwards slowly Vmax
Forwards fast Vmax
Subparameters: Backwards slowly Vmax

B - Forwards slowly Backwards fast Vmax
C - Forwards fast
D - Backwards slowly
E - Backwards fast DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
Kid 80 Kid 80
A / /
B 15 /
C 50 /
D 20 /
E 50 /
3 - Pag. 16 / 23
no. 72 Speed reduction during bar change

pusher moves during the bar change cycle in 72
the phases described by B, C, D, E
subparameters. This value is expressed as a no. 72 Speed reduction during bar change
percentage of the maximum speed. CURRENT VALUE Vmax
Parameters:
A - Speed reduction during bar change
From "Collet entry slowdown" to "pulse window end"
Vmax
Pulse backwards Vmax

Subparameters:
B - From collet entry slowdown to pulse Facing to the limit stop Vmax
window end Facing jog Vmax

C - Pulse backwards
D - Facing to limit stop
E - Facing jog DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
Kid 80 Kid 80
A / /
B 6 /
C 20 /
D 10 /
E 28 /
no. 73 Limitation of automatic speed

pusher moves in automatic mode. This value is 73
speed. no. 73 Limitation of automatic speed
Parameters: CURRENT VALUE Vmax
A - Limitation of automatic speed
Closed collet Vmax
Subparameters: Open collet Vmax
B - Collet closed
C - Collet open

Kid 80 Kid 80
A / /
B 20 /
C 30 /
3 - Pag. 17 / 23
no.77 Torque reduction in manual mode

Defines the torque value by which the bar
pusher moves in manual mode. This value is 77
torque. no. 77 Torque reduction in manual mode
Parameters: CURRENT VALUE Vmax
A - Torque reduction in manual mode
Forwards slowly Vmax
Subparameters: Forwards fast Vmax
B - Forwards slowly Backwards slowly Vmax

C - Forwards fast Backwards fast Vmax
D - Backwards slowly
E - Backwards fast
Kid 80 Kid 80
A / /
B 40 /
C 70 /
D 70 /
E 70 /
no. 78 Toque reduction during bar change

Defines the torque value by which the bar
pusher moves during the bar change cycle in 78
the phases described by B, C, D, E
subparameters. This value is expressed as a no. 78 Torque reduction during bar change
percentage of the maximum torque. CURRENT VALUE Vmax
Parameter:
From "Collet entry slowdown" to "pulse window end"
Vmax
A - Torque reduction during bar change Pulse backwards Vmax
Subparameters: Facing to the limit stop Vmax
B - From collet entry slowdown to pulse Facing jog Vmax

window end
C - Pulse backwards
D - Facing to limit stop DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
E - Facing jog Kid 80 Kid 80
A / /
B 40 /
C 100 /
D 35 /
E 50 /
3 - Pag. 18 / 23
no. 79 Torque reduction in automatic mode

Defines the torque value of the bar pusher in
automatic mode. This value is expressed as a 79
percentage of the maximum torque.
no. 79 Torque reduction in automatic
Parameters: mode
A - Limitation of automatic speed CURRENT VALUE Vmax
Closed collet Vmax

Subparameters:
B - Collet closed
Open collet Vmax
C - Collet open

Kid 80 Kid 80
A / /
B 10 /
C 40 /
no. 84 Keyboard on the opposite side

Allows setting the direction of the controls for
the bar pusher movements. 84
The setting of this parameter should be done
with regards to the position of the keyboard no. 84 Keyboard on the opposite side
i.e.: if it is on one side or on the opposite side.
0 - Defines the movements, forwards and
backwards, in both directions.
1 - Defines the movements, forwards and
backwards, of the opposite directions with
regards to 0.
Kid 80 Kid 80
1 0/1
3 - Pag. 19 / 23
3.6 INTERFACE PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION
no. 85 Interface signals

Defines how to manage the interface signals from
the lathe to the bar feeder.
85
Subparameters:
no. 85 Interface signal
A - NO-E0.0Auxiliary enabling1 Auxiliary enabling1

Auxiliary enabling2
B - NO-E0.1Auxiliary enabling2 Bar change
Feeding Thread safety
C - NO-E8.0Bar change Manual feeding
Manual return
Start from lathe
Safety from lathe
D - NO-E8.1Feeding Man-Aut from lathe
Loading cycle
Startup
E - NO-E8.2Manual feeding Feeding stop

NOT IMPULSIVE
F - NO-E8.3Manual return Door safety Working mode
G - NO-E8.4Man-Aut from lathe

H - NO-E8.5Loading cycle DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
I - NO-E8.6Feeding stop Kid 80 Kid 80
NOT IMPULSIVE A o /
L - NO-E8.7Door safety B o /
M - NO-E9.0Thread safety C /
N - NO-E9.1Start from lathe D /
O - NO-E9.2Safety from lathe E o /
P - NO-E9.3Startup F o /
Q - NO-E9.7Working mode
G /
H o /
I o /
L o /
M o /
N o /
O /
3 - Pag. 20 / 23
3.7 GENERAL PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION
no. 89 Fair demo

0 - off
1 - on 89
To activate this mode, it is necessary to set
parameter 35 at 1, parameter 6 (for example) no. 89 Fair Demo
at 200 mm, and parameter 85 "Bar Change" at ON
1.
To activate this mode, it is necessary to set

parameter 35 at 1, parameter 6 (for example)
at 200 mm, and parameter 85 "Bar Change" at
1. DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
Kid 80 Kid 80
ON ON/OFF
no. 90 Wrong bar feeder phase
0 - (K37 active with closed guide channels 90

in manual mode).
During the "MANUAL" cycle, the bar feeder goes no.90 Wrong bar feeder phase
into "ALARM" when performing movements (for 0-K37 active with closed guide channels in the manual mode
example "guide channel opening"). The bar

feeder "WORKING" phase is lost and must be
re-established; the "BAR FEEDER WAITING"
message will be displayed.
1 - (Bar feeder in manual mode and lathe

in automatic mode). DEFAULT VALUE PROGRAMMABLE VALUE
At the first bar feeding signal, the bar feeder Kid 80 Kid 80
goes into "ALARM" mode if it is in manual 0 0/1
mode.
WARNING - CAUTION
After the "MANUAL/AUTOMATIC" lathe signal is given, this safety is not
activated if the bar feeder is working in "MANUAL" mode from the lathe.
3 - Pag. 21 / 23
no. 98 Indicators
The parameter describes "Speed" and "Torque"
instant values during the bar feeder working phase. 98
It is not possible to interact with or to modify the
values displayed, which are only given as an no. 98 Indicators
indication.
3 - Pag. 22 / 23
no. 99 SMS
SMS address where to deliver messages.
99
A Address
B Subject n.99 sms
C Text Date Hour
Address
Subject
Text

Kid 80 Kid 80
reference domain
A /
name.it
bar feeder
B /
component
C message /
no.100 E-mail
The e-mail address where the e-mail should be
sent in case of bar feeder alarm can be set 100
directly from the touch screen.
n.100 E-mail
A Address Date Hour
B Subject Address
Subject

Kid 80 Kid 80
reference[at]domain
A /
name.it
B ALARM /
3 - Pag. 23 / 23
5 - ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV EN
INDEX
5.1 ASSISTANCE REQUEST ............................................................................................2
A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA..................................................3
B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR .....................................................................4
D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES .......................................................8
E PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS ...........................................................9
F PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE .................................................................. 11
G GENERAL PARAMETER LIST.................................................................................... 12
5 - Pag. 1 / 12
EN 5 - ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV
5.1 ASSISTANCE REQUEST
For assistance request, send the list of parameters with the assigned values (attachments B, C,
D, E, F, G) to IEMCA service department.
In addition, it is necessary to transmit the identification data of the HARDWARE installed in the
bar feeder (attachment A).
EXAMPLE OF FILLING IN
5 - Pag. 2 / 12
A HARDWARE AND PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA
Customer Date
Bar feeder model Y/N
Machine tool model
HARDWARE IDENTIFICATION DATA

Model:
"CPU" CARD
Serial number
Model:
ENABLING CARD (motor drive)
Serial number
Above data can be found in the "CPU" and "motor enabling" cards, which are located in electric
board.
PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA

PUSH-BUTTON PANEL FIRMWARE Number:
PUSH-BUTTON PANEL SOFTWARE Number:
PLC/CN SOFTWARE Number:
PLC/CN FIRMWARE Number:
To trace these data, see section 2.12
5 - Pag. 3 / 12
B PARAMETER LIST FOR THE OPERATOR
Customer Date
Bar feeder model S/N
Using machine model
OPERATOR PARAMETER LIST

Default value Unit of
Allocated
Par.No. Parameter description measuremen
KID IV value
t
1 Bar end adjustment mm-inches
Bar end adjustment 100 mm-inches
Bar end adjustment (K1A) 300 mm-inches
Bar end adjustment (K1B) 500 mm-inches
2 Facing length 0 mm-inches
Facing mode
3 0= at limit stop 1
1= in position
Overrun admitted after "I" 0 mm-inches
Facing to the limit stop 10 %Vmax
Facing to the limit stop 35 %Cmax
4 Short feeding safety 0 mm-inches
5 Long feeding safety 0 mm-inches
6 Piece length 0 mm-inches
7 Open collet speed 30 %Vmax
9 Open collet thrust delay 0 Sec
10 Closed collet thrust delay 0 Sec
11 Collet entry slowdown 200 mm-inches
12 Collet entry speed 6 %Vmax
13 Collet entry torque 40 %Cmax
14 Pulse number 20
Pulse window start 400 mm-inches
Pulse window end 20 mm-inches
15 Pulse stroke 0.15 Sec
5 - Pag. 4 / 12
Customer Date
Using machine model

Allocated
KID IV value
t
18 Spindle pulses – on time 0,5 0,5 Sec
19 Spindle pulses – off time 0,5 0,5 Sec
20 Cycle start delay 0 0 Sec
Remnant handling
0= safety
21 1= ejection 0 0
2= bar change advance (no first feeding)
3= bar change advance (no facing)
22 Open collet timeout 0 0 Sec
23 Piece timeout 0 0 Sec
Bar feeding handling
25 0=end of feeding with bar change 1 1
1=end of feeding with K1
26 Pieces before lathe stop 0 0 (0)
27 Minutes before lathe stop 0 0 Min.
5 - Pag. 5 / 12
Customer Date
Using machine model

Allocated
KID IV value
t
28 Closed collet speed %Vmax
29 Max feeding pos. adjustment 0 mm-inches
Language 1I-2GB–3D–4F–5E–6S–7DK-8P-
30 1
9NL-10FIN-11CS-12RU
K1 immediate exit
32 0=with open collet K1 not activated 0
1=with open collet K1 activated
K2 Inversion
33 0=K2 is on 1 at limit stop 0
1=K2 is on 0 at limit stop
34 Feeding torque 40 %Cmax
Fixed-piece feeding
0=at the limit stop
0
1=at fixed values
2=fixed values + thr. at limit stop
35 Position /
Speed 76200
Acceleration 100
Deceleration 100
K15 disabling
36 0= K15 included 1
1=K15 excluded
37 K15 duration 2 sec.
38 K13 duration 2 sec.

Spindle stop
39 0=relay disabled during bar change 0
1=relay always enabled
40 Closed collet bar pusher return 10 mm-inches
41 First feeding value (B) 1720 mm-inches
42 Bar pusher return pause 0.2 sec.
5 - Pag. 6 / 12
Customer Date
Using machine model

Allocated
KID IV value
t
Speed change in first feeding
43 0=slow 1
1=fast
Speed 1 9144 Mm/m
Speed 2 48000
Acceleration 100
Deceleration 10
44 Axis operation
Bar pusher stop with closed collet
0=the bar pusher stop is off 0
1=the bar pusher stop is on
Axis stop engagement delay 1 sec.
Closed collet torque 10 %Cmax
5 - Pag. 7 / 12
D PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES
Customer Date
Using machine model
PARAMETER LIST FOR THE REFERENCE VALUES

Par. Default value
Unit of
No. Parameter description Allocated value
KID IV measurement
60 First feeding value (B) 1720 mm-inches

61 Feeding value (x) / mm-inches
62 Bush value (BO) 2270 mm-inches
63 Flag-collet distance (B1C) 1400 mm-inches
64 Collet value (C) ## mm-inches
65 Collet + facing value (CI) ## mm-inches
66 Maximum feeding value (F) 3740 mm-inches
67 Lubrication stop value (L) 2590 mm-inches
Guide channel opening max.
68 ## mm-inches
value
69 Maximum bar length ## mm-inches
5 - Pag. 8 / 12
E PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS
Customer Date
Using machine model
PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS

Par. Default value Unit of
Allocated
No. Parameter description measureme
KID IV value
nt
70 FCMax 0
71 Speed reduction in manual mode
Forwards slowly 15,0 %Vmax
Forwards fast 50,0 %Vmax
Backwards slowly 20,0 %Vmax
Backwards fast 50,0 %Vmax
72 Speed reduction during bar change
From "collet entry slowdown" to "pulse
6,0 %Vmax
window end"
Pulse backwards 20,0 %Vmax
Facing to the limit stop 10,0 %Vmax
Facing jog 28,0 %Vmax
73 Speed reduction in automatic mode
Clamp closed 20 %Vmax
Open collet 30 %Vmax
77 Torque reduction in manual mode ## %Cmax
Forwards slowly 40 %Cmax
Forwards fast 70 %Cmax
Backwards slowly 70 %Cmax
Backwards fast 70 %Cmax
78 Torque reduction during bar change ## %Cmax
From "collet entry slowdown" to "pulse
40 %Cmax
window end"
Pulse backwards 100 %Cmax
Facing to the limit stop 35 %Cmax
Facing jog 50 %Cmax
79 Torque reduction in automatic mode ## %Cmax
Clamp closed 10 %Cmax
Open collet 40 %Cmax
5 - Pag. 9 / 12
PARAMETER LIST FOR THE AXIS FUNCTIONS

Par. Default value Unit of
Allocated
No. Parameter description measureme
KID IV value
nt
84 Keyboard on the opposite side 0
5 - Pag. 10 / 12
F PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE
Customer Date
Using machine model
PARAMETER LIST FOR THE INTERFACE

Par.No. Allocated
Parameter description measureme
KID IV value
nt
85 Interface signals
Bar change (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Feeding (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Man. feeding (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Man. return (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Man/aut from lathe (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Feeding cycle (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Feeding stop (0=NO/1=NC) 0 (0)
Door safety devices
1
(0=NO/1=NC)
Threading safety device
0
(0=NO/1=NC)
Start from lathe (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Safety devices from lathe
1
(0=NO/1=NC)
Sturtup (0=NO/1=NC) 0
Working mode (0=NO/1=NC) 0
5 - Pag. 11 / 12
G GENERAL PARAMETER LIST
Customer Date
Using machine model
GENERAL PARAMETER LIST

Par.No. Allocated
Parameter description measure
KID IV value
ment
Fair Demo
89 0= turned off 0
1= turned on
Wrong bar feeder phase
0= K37 active with closed guide channels
90 in manual mode 0
1= Bar feeder in manual mode and lathe
in automatic mode
98 Indicators (only on touch) /
99 SMS service (only on touch) /
100 E-MAIL service (only on touch) /
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AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER

Rel. 0 Date# 01/07/2015 Cod.806015445

COMPILER Bosi Andrea

ON APPROVAL Moretti Maurizio

This manual is a translation of the original document

ADDRESS Via Granarolo, 167 - 48018 Faenza (RA) - ITALY

Tel. 0546/698000 - Fax. 0546/46224

TYPE OF DOCUMENT KEYBOARD INSTRUCTION MANUAL

PRODUCT AUTOMATIC BAR FEEDER

MODEL KID 80 - IV Touch

IEMCA A BUCCI AUTOMATIONS DIVISION

1 BASIC INFORMATION KID 80 SIV ..................................................................................... 1

2 INFORMATION FOR USE KID 80 SIV ................................................................................ 1

3 INFORMATION FOR SET UP KID 80 SIV .......................................................................... 1

4 INFORMATION FOR THE AUTHORISED TECHNICIAN KID 80 SIV ................................ 1

5 ATTACHMENTS KID 80 SIV ............................................................................................... 1

5.1 ASSISTANCE REQUEST ...................................................................................................... 2

1.1 Control description ...................................................................................................3

1.1 Control description

The figure represents the control position on board the machine.

1 TOUCH-SCREEN: display and main controls

Keyboard control description

ID Progr.9 AUTOMATIC MODE 0

ID Progr.9 AUTOMATIC MODE 0

ID Progr.9 AUTOMATIC MODE 0

- Bar feeder in stand-by

2.1 AUTOMATIC CYCLE START .......................................................................................2

2.2 OFFSET PROCEDURE (ADJUSTMENT) ........................................................................3

2.3 CYCLE PERFORMING MODE IN THE STEP-BY-STEP FUNCTION ...................................4

2.4 BAR FEEDER STOP ...................................................................................................5

2.5 0-AXIS PROCEDURE (MANUAL MODE).......................................................................6

2.6 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: OPERATION MODE ...........................................................8

2.7 PARAMETER ACCESSING AND DISPLAY .....................................................................9

2.7.1 HOW TO ACCESS AND DISPLAY IEMCA PARAMETERS .............................................. 10

2.7.2 ACCESSING AND DISPLAYING SUBJECT MENU PARAMETERS ................................... 12

2.8 PARAMETER MODIFICATION .................................................................................. 14

2.9 EXITING THE PARAMETERS.................................................................................... 15

2.10 PROGRAMME ARCHIVE ON SD MEMORY ................................................................. 16

2.11 OPERATOR PARAMETERS: DESCRIPTION ................................................................ 20

2.12 ERRORS - CAUSES - SOLUTIONS ............................................................................ 57

2.13 PROGRAM IDENTIFICATION DATA: DISPLAY MODE................................................. 71

2.1 AUTOMATIC CYCLE START

1. Power on the lathe.

3. Start the bar feeder:

4. Select the manual mode:

5. Select the "BAR FEEDER ZERO SETTING" of the carriage:

6. Bring the bar fore end close to the cutting tool:

2.2 OFFSET PROCEDURE (ADJUSTMENT)

1 - Set the machine to manual mode .

2.3 CYCLE PERFORMING MODE IN THE STEP-BY-STEP FUNCTION

This mode may be used for many reasons, as for instance:

• to open the guide channels;

1. press to start the bar feeder;

2. press and then to select the semi-

3. press , the bar feeder performs the first step

2.4 BAR FEEDER STOP

Bar feeder stop in emergency.

Stopping the bar feeder at the end of the machining cycle.

2.5 0-AXIS PROCEDURE (MANUAL MODE)