Transmaxxing

There are many potential benefits from transitioning from male to female

0. Sexual excitement from having a feminine body.

1. The superiority of female aesthetics.
2. Access to the transbian dating pool.
3. Full-body orgasms 0
4. Multiple orgasms from penile stimulation.
5. You will feel emotions stronger and be happier on estrogen.
6. Your breasts will become sensitive.
7. Being able to attract cis lesbians (if you become attractive enough).
8. High quality males will be attracted to you.
9. Softer skin and less/no acne.
10. Live longer https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acel.12170
11. Being able to extract resources from males.
12. You will no longer be driven to do dangerous and idiotic things due to testosterone
13. Stop and reverse hair loss 1 2
14. People will treat you better if they think you are female 3 4 5
15. Less likely to get killed https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5551594/
16. Female spaces are cleaner and generally more pleasant, not having to shower with males.
17. Legal sex-change becomes more viable (cheaper car insurance, getting diversity hired, etc).
How medical transition affects mating options
Since females have the upper hand on the dating market transitioning from male to female will usually
improve your options when it comes to getting sex. In addition the sex you enjoy as a female will be of
higher quality. The opposite is true for females transitioning to male.

Your sexuality may switch on hormone replacement therapy 6 if your sexuality stays the same you
always have the option of dating trans girls, there are also plenty of cis girls willing to date trans girls.

Becoming MtF transsexual is a way better option than being involuntarily celibate as a male 7 8 if you
do not have autogynephilia as an incel you can try to induce it. You can watch porn and imagine
yourself as the female, there is also female POV porn you can try.

Many AFAB individuals who transition to male regret it due to the social implications 9
How to transition
If you do not currently feel like living as a female you might have to work on fixing that. Identifying as
male or being emotionally attached to a male body is bad for you if being male results in you living a
bad life.

step0: Begin voice-training so you will get a 'female' voice.

step1: watch Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo.
step2: watch Kashimashi girl meets girl.
step3: watch Tatsuwan birdy decode.
step4: watch Kämpfer.
step5: watch Interspecies Reviewers Episode 3
step6: If you still don't feel like becoming a girl watch tsf monogatari and residence.
step7: if you play videogames make sure to use a female character 10
step8: Go to a gender clinic if you need an official diagnosis at some point.
step9: Bank your sperm.
step10: Start hormone replacement therapy 11
step11: Removal of unwanted hair.
step12: Facial feminization surgery (if needed).
step13: Social transition 12 (can be done earlier if you live in a social environment supportive of it).

If you have been a sissy/similar in the past it's time to stop now, you can do better than that. This will
be significantly easier on female hormones which is part of the reason sissies often benefit from them.

If you have been a sissy/similar in the past it's time to stop now, you can do better than that. You need
to know/learn your value as a female, it's important that you adapt mentally to the new situation.

Other great anime with MTF elements are Kimi no na wa (your name), Kenja no Deshi wo Nanoru
Kenja, youjo senki, Ranma 1/2, Cheeky angel, When i woke up i became a bagel girl, Qwaser of
Stigmata II, ayakashi-triangle, Reborn to Master the Blade, Oniichan wa Oshimai!

The experience of becoming female

The following individual was able to massively improve his life by transitioning.

Honestly this was even harder to decide to post than my attempt to be gay 8+ months ago. Because the
implications and outcomes have been completely different, the experience has been completely
different.

Disclaimer: Before all of this i 100% completely identified as a man, a man's man type of internal
mindset. Very heterosexual. And gay stuff just did nothing for me. It was only out of desperation and
having the right features that i attempted this gender transition. By right features i mean i was only 5'8
starting out and had a 2.7 inches erect penis. Plus all my facial features are feminine and i was pretty
cute even as a guy. With 4 inches to my height and dick i could have been a normie or even chad lite.
Yet reality is cruel sometimes. Since being on hormones i have lost some height, so i'm closer to 5'7
now, a true manlet if i ever decide to return to manhood.

I have been on estrogen for about 6 months now. It all started when i got my new therapist three
months before that, who referred me to a new general practitioner he knows. Obviously i told him
nothing about being incel or hating females. Only that i always felt like a girl, which was a massive lie.
I just wanted to get hormones to attempt a gender transition and hopefully become attracted to dudes
like the other trans on reddit, who so ironically betray themselves and their cause by casually posting
truth.

I just want to say for the record i don't believe in any of the trans bullshit about being born that way.
Maybe an exceptionally small amount of them are. Yet if you read their forums or subs it's so extremely
common how many of them are just guys who wank to shemale porn and have autogynephilia. The vast
majority almost always speak about how their brains get changed by hormones. Further proving they
are truly male in the brain. Basically they are mostly cross-dressing fetishists. Maybe a very few of
them really were born with a fucked up brain but it's hard to weed out the liars. Since the fake trans just
copy what the real trans say. Yet they let it slip in their posts how
much they love tranny porn or wanking their she cocks. Not that
it matters, more trans is always a good thing. Less beta orbiters
and sometimes even trans that are hot.

The first injection my doctor did for me. After that i did the rest
myself. My hormones were tested before i started estradiol and at
the 3-month mark. My testosterone was exceptionally low so he
said i did not need an anti-androgen. I started out injecting every
2 weeks but moved to once per week after 3 months because i
was getting hot flashes due to low spots in between.

The changes seemed slow at first. The first week i got sick to my
stomach after the injection. I just felt awful, almost like someone was flicking my balls with their
finger. Not as painful as being kicked in the nuts though. This lasted for about 3 or 4 days. Then it
happened again after the next injection. It mostly stopped after the 3rd one. By which time i already
had breast buds. Just a short while after that i started getting serious breast tissue. I had already been
out in public dressed several times even in the first month. But i got a binder so i could delay social
transition, because i needed more time to master my female voice.

Mastering a female voice was actually pretty tough. It took me about a month and a half to really sound
like a girl. And i was practicing every day at least 30 minutes. I spent so much time looking up how to
do this and incorporating the advice into my sessions. I would record myself and play it back to see if i
sounded like a girl.

It was about 4 months in when things really started to twist my reality into all sorts of fucked. One day
when i was wanking i realized i was still hard after cumming, which was mostly clear at this point. i
felt as if i was not fully satisfied, as if i could keep going. So i kept wanking and i came again. Then i
came again, and again. With no orgasm declining in quality. I came so many times i wasn't horny for 4
days afterwards. At which point i came over 10 times. A week after that i came 40+ times in less than
an hour. I actually lost count of how many times i came. The first orgasm had the most clear cum. Then
the first few after had plenty. Then i would rotate between ejaculating anywhere from a teaspoon, to a
few drops, to a dry orgasm. As my body just kept making more.
During this same time my emotions were becoming far more intense. I would cry at stupid and random
stuff. But crying does not feel bad, it feels good to release emotions. I would care about stuff that didn't
even matter. It was almost like the hormones were dumbing me down. Dumbing me down enough to
where i could enjoy life. I was starting to get a feeling, almost like being continually a little bit high. It
was euphoric to say the least.

I only had a bit of feeling in my phantom vagina area, which was more than a bit disappointing, so i
decided to try to encourage the feelings. I had phone sex with a couple of guys i met on the net. I
role-played the part of the girl perfectly, even moaned like i was loving it. The next day after the 3rd
guy i experienced a massive change. After peeing i felt this intense surge of energy from my phantom
vagina to my chest. An absolute nuclear pleasure reaction and i thought about the night before when i
had phone sex with that guy. It wasn't long after i realized what men could do to me, that i started
craving to kiss them. Craving them inside me as i cuddled my pillow while falling asleep. Craving to be
held by a big and strong man.

The month after that things got even more intense. It was clear
to me that females experienced sex with far more joy than men.
It's like having a dick with sensory feelings that reaches all
through up the body and hooks in the heart. My first experience
with a guy was a non-chad friend, who knew i had started a
transition and thinks i am actually trans. We didn't have sex or
even oral but we kissed a few times and cuddled for a few
hours. It was magical, the cuddles were even better than the
endless orgasms. Waves upon waves of mental emotion mixed
with sexual waves of pleasure. It's so extremely addicting.

I'm beyond words enjoying my experience on female

hormones. I still hate females, cucks, and chads. This is the
turning point for me. If i don't quit now i will probably end up
sterile and unable to break this intense addiction to female
hormones and to men. Finishing transition will take work but
leads to a life of happiness. Not finishing means going back to a
hell after experiencing a heavenly paradise the likes of which i
could have never imagined.

I feel like any choice i make is life-wrecking but i was already totally fucked to begin with. It's so
fucked up to crave men, to think of being dominated by them. My brain is so fucked up on female
hormones it's telling me it would feel amazing to swallow semen and get creampied. I only have one
cuddle buddy right now but i think about cuddling other guys too.

I have not had sex yet, not even oral but i feel like if a dude mounts me and creams me while i'm
hopped up on estrogen there may be no return. Because i can already tell getting fucked is another level
of pleasure. Maybe even greater than the endless orgasms or even the cuddling. Orgasms are just a
sprinkle on the icing for female bodies. Things are so much more intense and amazing in all areas of
life. Going from before transition to right now was like going from black & white reality in low
definition to 4k ultra HD with perfect sound. Even more than that, it's like life is even more colorful
now and things are so much more intense. The sky even looks brighter, stars shine more intensely to
me. It's like hormones grew a lens of happiness in my brain that i now perceive reality through and it's
a much more positive experience.
Things look potentially so good, at least better than when it was hopeless. I don't know if i can ever go
through with having my genitals cut off. I just have like a mental block over such a barbaric surgery. I
think i could live fine with just having male parts. I partially identify as female but know deep down I'll
always be a man because men are awesome.

I could see this as being the best cope for manlets who are cute. As long as their face isn't too
masculine. I'm not saying it's perfect, it has downsides like having to pee more. It's still a lot better than
being incel forever. A lot of males suffer because they value their pride over their happiness, destroying
your male pride is an important step in your transition process.

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The male gender role is broken

Let's face it, if you present as male, there's exactly one personality that will earn you social approval:
Chad. Assertive, dominant, successful. Nobody will be impressed by a male that is meek, submissive
and struggling. Such males are not considered gender trailblazers; they're just derided as incel NEETs.
Nobody is offering an actual solution to this. Tradcons tell you to just man up. TERFs tell you to just
abolish gender. Liberals deny this reality altogether.

By embracing girlmode, you actually become free to be your authentic self without shame. Society at
large requires men to keep grinding and struggling to keep the lights on, so obviously no serious and
respectable person will encourage you to just drop down the pink vortex, but it's possibly the only thing
that will actually help you if you're stuck being a shitty male with no prospects.

Life outcomes of people that transition

Trans-women that are supported by their parents have good life outcomes 13 as society becomes more
accepting of trans-women the outcomes of people that transition from male to female will improve.
A large number of observational studies on medical transition have already been done and results are
good. Hormone replacement therapy has been found to be beneficial for trans people.

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In some of these trials trans people reported the same quality of life as non-trans people, this was only
the case for trans people who had already started medical transition.

Already today people that transition male to female seem to do better than female to male 14

Trans-women will benefit from the increasing female privilege, thus in the future more males will
benefit from transitioning while it becomes less beneficial for females to transition to male despite
trans-men becoming more accepted by society. Transitioning from male to female can be a very
positive and empowering experience.

Who actually benefit from medical transition?

The following study found that MtF transition improved quality of life while FtM transition had no
statistically significant QoL benefit.

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MtF prior to transitioning

Body Image scale, 43.25
Quality of Life scale, 62.50
Quality of Sexual Life scale, 56.25
Interpersonal Relation-ship scale, 50.25

MtF after transition

Body Image subscale average score was 68.75 (p<0.05)
Quality of Life score was 72.2 (p<0.05)
Quality of Sexual Life scale score was 62.05(p<0.05)
The Interpersonal Relationship scale reported an average score of 75 (p<0.05)

Antiandrogen therapy led to a clinical impression of regression of cutaneous androgenization (slowed

body-hair-growth and less frequent shaving), as well as a progressive reduction of balding along with
hair regrowth in such areas.

The effects of antiandrogen preparations on hair growth and scalp were visible and clinically registered,
sometimes also with photographs, after the first 6 months and improved the female phenotype
contributing to the subjectively perceived quality-of-life improvement.

This outcome was also confirmed by the Quality of Life scores (72.2 vs. 62.5), which were significant
improved over baseline evaluations.

FtM comparison
Despite being significantly more dysphoric prior to transitioning they did not improve as much in terms
of quality of life. It seems like AFAB individuals were more reluctant to transition (less of them in the
study, more dysphoric) but the ones that actually transitioned were very happy with the physical results
regarding their bodies.
MtF Body image: +25.5
FtM body image: +41.4
MtF quality of life: +9.7
FtM quality of life: +5.5

FtM prior to transitioning

Body Image scale, 21.85;
Quality of Life scale, 63.25
Quality of Sexual Life scale, 50.25
Interpersonal Relationship scale, 50.02.

FtM after transition

Body Image subscale score was 63.25 (p<0.05)
the average Quality of Life score was 68.75 (p=ns)
the average Quality of Sexual Life scale score was 56.25 (p=ns)
the Interpersonal Relationship scale average score was 81.25(p<0.05).

Most MtF individuals in the study probably didn't pass

This explains why their social relationships did not improve as much as FtM individuals, it was
difficult for them to pass as the opposite sex.

Age: 32.7±8.8 yr
Height: 172±7.38 cm

Study: 9 of 9 trans females got their fertility back after stopping HRT
3 of 4 trans females who stopped HRT to conceive naturally ended up having a child, all trans females
did however manage to eventually produce viable sperm.

https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(22)00422-0#

Following cessation of GAHT, viable spermatozoa were

eventually documented in all nine cases (Table 1).

Initial semen collection and analysis occurred 3–27

months after GAHT was ceased. Six had sperm present
on their initial semen analyses, but the other three had
documented azoospermia on their initial analyses at 1,
4, and 7 months. Spermatozoa were later recovered
from the semen of two of these individuals at 8 and 10
months. For the remaining individual, azoospermia was
still present at 13 months, but eventually, testicular
sperm extraction at 17 months recovered mature
spermatozoa from both testes.

Three of the four trans women who stopped GAHT to naturally conceive with their partners
successfully did so after 4, 20, and 40 months (for the latter individual, it should be noted that she was
separated from her partner for a substantial duration after GAHT cessation, which is likely to have
contributed to the extended time it took to conceive). For the remaining trans woman, there had not
been any report of a natural conception at the most recent follow up 28 months after stopping GAHT.
2 of the patients used spironolactone while 7 used cyproterone acatate prior to stopping HRT.

There are several important limitations that should be noted. Firstly, there was a lack of data on semen
quality before and during GAHT. In this way, it is possible that some of our participants may have had
abnormal semen parameters even before treatment, in which case their abnormal semen analysis results
after GAHT should be interpreted with caution. Secondly, assessment of hormone levels, such as
testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH), and FSH, following GAHT cessation in our cohort would have
been useful as a guide to help indicate the resumption of normal reproductive endocrine function,
including at the time of semen collection, but monitoring of these levels was haphazard among our
patients. Finally, our sample size was obviously limited and ultimately only included three patients in
whom reversible azoospermia could be confirmed. Looking ahead, future studies that include a larger
number of such patients will therefore be important to validate and expand upon our findings.

Long-term outcomes
The study above only lasted a year. We do however have the following study showing the yearly
suicide attempt rate to drastically drop from 27% to 1% after medical transition.

https://www.erudit.org/en/journals/ss/2013-v59-n1-ss0746/1017478ar/

We also have the following study showing the rate of hospitalization to drastically drop over time after
transgender surgery further indicating that long-term outcomes are better than short-term outcomes.

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1176/appi.ajp.2020.20050599
People are required to be screened for mental health problems before gender-affirming surgery and
might therefore have particularly high odds of mental health treatment in the perioperative year because
of their perhaps involuntary receipt of mental health services. These individuals might be less likely to
voluntarily seek treatment for mental health problems with greater time since surgery.

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1176/appi.ajp.2020.20050599

The study itself says "hospitalization for suicide attempt" and it's unclear if or how many of these
"hospitalizations" (worse than jail) were due to the fact that these people were forced into
psychotherapy and psychiatric screening which would expose them to the predatory and unethical
mental health industry.

5-year follow up survey: transition is beneficial for AMAB people

Clinicians did report improvement less often than the patients but MtF
transition was still found to be beneficial even when judged by by the
clinician.

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1007/s10508-009-9551-1

Only MtF transition had a statistically significant benefit when judged

by the clinicians.

Here homosexual and heterosexual refers to sexual orientation relative to the birth-sex which is clearly
transphobic meaning the study if anything had a bias against trans people.

As we see sexual orientation does not seem to be an important factor when it comes to whether or not
the transition will be beneficial.

The MtF transsexuals of this study all started at age 21 or later.

10-year follow up survey: people do better after transitioning
The sample comprised 71 participants (35 MtF and 36 FtM). The follow-up period was 10–24 years
with a mean of 13.8 years (SD = 2.78)

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1007/s10508-014-0453-5

None of the participants expressed a desire for gender-

role reversal (n = 69), and when asked about how often
they had doubts about their present gender role,
participants answered with a mean of 4.70 (SD = 0.71;
n = 70) on a rating scale from 1 (‘‘continuously’’) to 5
(‘‘never’’).

Satisfaction with one’s own appearance was again

rated on a 5-point scale and was 4.46 (SD = 0.86; n =
70) on average.
Multivariate regression: HRT is beneficial
HRT has been found to be beneficial after adjusting for potential confounding factors in multiple
studies. People who got access to HRT before 18 also did better than the one who got HRT later after
adjusting for various confounding factors

Statistically significant difference was found in regards to "past-year suicidal ideation"; This was
adjusted for gender identity, sex assigned at birth, sexual orientation, race/ethnicity, familial support of
gender identity, educational attainment, total household income.

Statistically significant difference with regard to "past-month severe psychological distress" was also
found after adjusting for gender identity, sex assigned at birth, sexual orientation, race/ethnicity,
familial support of gender identity, educational attainment, total household income, and whether they
had received pubertal suppression.

In both cases the statistical significance was p<0.0001 when compared to people who never started
HRT. You will only find a difference (in either direction) that large less than once in 10000 by chance.

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After adjusting for demographic and potential confounding variables, access to GAH during
adolescence (ages 14–17) was associated with lower odds of past-month severe psychological distress
(aOR = 0.6, 95% CI = 0.5–0.8, p < .0001), past-year suicidal ideation (aOR = 0.7, 95% CI = 0.6–0.9, p
= .0007), past-month binge drinking (aOR = 0.7, 95% CI = 0.5–0.9, p = .001), and lifetime illicit drug
use (aOR = 0.7, 95% CI = 0.5–0.8, p = .0003) when compared to access to GAH during adulthood.

In the following study trans people on HRT reported higher quality of life than cis people (Was
statistically significant in terms of "Mental health" and "General health", see figure 3) Whilst 'trans'
people not on HRT reported worse quality of life than cis controls (was statistically significant in terms
of "Role emotional, see Figure 2).

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This of course is not enough to demonstrate that HRT itself is beneficial, to do that we need control for
potentially confounding factors, this can be done via multivariate regression.

Of all the factors analyzed only "Hormone Therapy" and "Depression" had a statistically significant
benefit in terms of mental health.

This is not the only study showing HRT by itself to be beneficial

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Why some people regret transitioning

A recent study found that 98% of detransitioners had gender dysphoria and that 88% where AFAB

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2021.1919479

The following study is outdated(done 1998) and it did not study transsexuals who did not opt for SRS,
there is a very large(probably majority) who do not want SRS in the first place. It did show lack of
social support to be the main cause of regret (not lack of gender dysphoria prior to transitioning).

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1600-0447.1998.tb10001.x

We found transsexuals to be more at risk for dropping out of treatment when they were MFs, showed
more psychopathology, more GID symptoms in childhood, yet less gender dysphoria at application

So if you were more dysphoric as a child but it's getting better now you might not be the best candidate
for medical transition. It is worth noting that childhood gender identity disorder is largely defined as
being gender-nonconformative 15 16 it's not surprising that many of these will later realize medical
transition isn't for them.

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Only non-homosexuals reported some regrets during treatment, and two during and after SR, which
they all related to a lack of acceptance and support from others.

This is a general pattern we are seeing in these studies; social factors are the biggest factor when it
comes to regrets and worse outcomes.

Overall, adolescents with poorer peer relations, poorer general family functioning, advanced age, and a
female sex assigned at birth showed more behavioral and emotional problems, or lower psychosocial
functioning. Thus, the present study confirms the important role the social environment - both peers
and family support - play with regard to the mental health outcomes in this group. Consequently,
incorporating the family and social environment into Transgender Healthcare seems crucial in order to
adequately tend to the needs of adolescents with GD 17

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1007/s10508-014-0300-8

As we see the regret rate is dropping despite more

people transitioning.

The FMs who applied for reversal were younger at

application than those who did not(median 22 years
compared to 27 years for the whole FM group).
Conversely, the MFs who later applied for reversal were older when they applied for sex reassignment
than those who did not (median 35 years vs. 32 years for the whole MF group). Since the group is
small, these data must, however, be interpreted cautiously.

What many people ignore is that surgeries are more or less a requirement for AFAB individuals, you
will not be taken seriously as a male if you do not have a penis or if your penis is very small. There is
less need for surgery if you are AMAB and can pass facially without FFS. It is worth nothing that
surgeries (especially mastectomy) can/will leave visible scars which can out people as transgender.

Eleven FMs (28.9%) were satisfied with their breast removal, 5 (13.2%) were dissatisfied due to the
visibility of the scars, and 22 (57.9%) were not completely satisfied. Four FMs were satisfied with their
metaidoioplasty or phalloplasty. One FM was dissatisfied because of urinary problems, while four were
not completely satisfied.

Avoiding social difficulties while transitioning

Transmaxxing is about medical transition for personal gain, it's not about fighting for some trans-cause
or getting pointless validation. You should regard it as a body modification akin to “bodybuilding”.
This is the only sensible approach if you value your social life, integrity, and self-respect.

If you believe that there is an “innate gender” which is unrelated to biology or society then you will
inevitably create social problems for yourself. People might understand that one might want to be (or
look like) a woman, but almost everyone takes “born in the wrong body” as a joke, especially if you
were not previously flamboyant.

You do not have to conform to female gender stereotypes to be valid as a woman, it’s about having
female secondary sexual characteristics. You functioning socially like a female after transitioning is
simply about convenience since you look like one and it’s not just looks, your biological characteristics
(hormones, breasts, brain, body odour, etc) will be more on the female side too.
You might think that you are a girl trapped in a male body but this will be scientifically incorrect prior
to HRT 18 19 20 you having a feminine personality doesn't make you a girl 21

You do not have to come out in any way to your family or other people who know your real identity.

If you do not look like and are not socially regarded as a woman - claiming that you are a woman on
the inside and that people should respect your innate gender regardless of how you look is meaningless
and futile. This at best makes people pity you and at worst makes them mock and bully you. The
situation worsens if you dress in women's clothing but still look like a man. This should be avoided
first and foremost out of self-respect, and secondly out of respect for fellow trannies. You will also hurt
yourself by thinking that people do not treat you the way you should be treated.

Whether or not you should transition isn't something you should discuss with people who have not
properly researched these topics, most people including your family will be utterly ignorant and thus
they will not be able to give you any real help; Worse still, if you announce that you plan or think about
transitioning - people around you may push or outright coerce you into not doing so even though it
would be beneficial for you.

Thus the solution is to start medication without telling anyone about it that knows your real identity,
later if/when they start noticing changes you can tell them that you are transitioning. If they find out
they will probably realize it’s too late and thus not intervene in an attempt to make you detransition.

Leaving your old life behind to live like a cis female

If you currently live in a transphobic environment you may want to relocate before socially
transitioning. You may want to just leave everything behind to start a new better life somewhere else.

Going for a nonbinary gender presentation is not really that great if your environment is transphobic
forcing you to boymode instead.

If you cannot move to a tolerant area you may have to delay social transition until you can fully pass as
a female and then hide your sex at birth from as many people as possible. You will need to have a solid
female voice and also develop female-passing mannerisms/movements. It's not just about physical
appearance. The fewer people who know you aren't born female the better.

0. Do not post your trans timeline online, if you want validation just pose as a cis female.
1. Delay your social transition until you can pass.
2. Put a lot of effort into voice-training
3. Move to a new area and begin a new social life there as you begin your social transition, of course
you can decide against this but then there will be more people who can out you.
4. Do not be too promiscuous since having sex will out you as transgender to that partner, this is very
often the case even if you have had SRS since neovaginas does not look the same as natural vaginas.
5. Change your name to something very different from your old male name.
6. Legally change your sex so people cannot see that you were born male when you show them your
ID-card or drivers license.
7. Make sure you are fully anonymous when you participate in online trans spaces such as the
transmaxxing discord. It's important not to disclose too much personal information to people since that
might allow other people to figure out who you are just from that. It's especially important to be careful
if the space you participate in as a trans female is public allowing anyone to go there and read what you
have written, minimize your posting there, especially if you only use one account.
8. Obviously do not shower naked with strangers since that can out you as transgender even if you have
had SRS.
9. Do not disclose your identity at first to people you have sex with (since they will see you have a
penis). Meet them at their location and do not bring your ID with you. Use the fake alias you set up on
the dating app/site and not your real legal name.
10. Pay attention to the manners and behavior other females display so you can copy that.

You do not necessarily have to switch to living stealth as a trans female right away. Often you can start
with a more basic social transition for learning things like normal female behavior to compensate for
the fact that you were socialized like a male before that point which is very different from the typical
female socialization.

About "real-life tests"

Some gender clinics recommend or even try to outright coerce people into presenting as the opposite
sex for years before they are given access to HRT. The obvious issue with that is that without any
surgery or HRT you will probably not pass well at all as female and thus you will become a public
clown, that will not be the experience you have if you actually transition medically and are able to pass
as female in social situations.

It's very much not ideal to try to learn how to behave as a female when people will see you are male
and treat you as such. People need to at least at first view you as a non-trans female.

What you instead could do is pretending to be a female online and use that to master a female-passing
voice.

Voice Training
Voice training for trans females can provide a wide range of benefits, beyond the obvious benefit of
passing. There are many resources available including guides, videos, personalized speech therapy and
even Vocal Feminization Surgery with varying results based on individual characteristics.

Some insurance or government programs may cover speech therapy and offer personalized lessons at
reduced rates.

Voice training can improve confidence and self-esteem. Many trans females struggle with self-doubt
and insecurity, and voice training can help them to develop a more confident and powerful vocal
presence, gaining a greater sense of self-assurance and empowerment.

A method from a vocal training coach to try at home

As long as you follow these instructions, and don’t try and do it all in one go, you will find your
feminine voice. When a step says practice, that means until you have mastered it, NOT just do it for ten
minutes and move on. Mastery of the larynx is the only way to reach the kind of vocal control you will
need. If you cannot shift your larynx at will, you will not sound good.

Yes you will be able to eventually get a female voice, you simply need to keep practicing until you
master it, this can take a lot of time but eventually if you keep grinding you get there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen

http://lena.kiev.ua/voice/
A step-by-step guide to vocal training
Your voice is much more malleable than you may realize. There are at least a dozen different
dimensions that you can learn to control independently to change the sound of your voice. The way you
talk right now is not your one “true” voice, it is a habit. A habit that can be changed, if you so choose.

https://www.reddit.com/r/transvoice/comments/d3clhe/ls_voice_training_guide_level_1_for_mtf/

Many transfemales experience dysphoria when they are unable to express themselves in a way that
matches their gender identity. Voice training can help to bridge this gap, allowing them to speak in a
way that is more aligned with their gender identity.

There are some audio/video media on YouTube that can offer insight into the process of voice training

• Finding Your Female Voice - A tutor that has tips and recorded consultations FYFV
• Trans Voice lessons for complete beginners Here
Voice training can help to improve communication. Trans females may find it difficult to
communicate effectively in both personal and professional contexts, due to the social stigma
associated with their voice. Voice training can help them to develop a stronger and more
confident speaking voice, which can help to reduce the stigma and improve communication.

Websites and apps also exist to help gauge your progress

• https://acousticgender.space/ - Web based analysis with pitch and resonance
• Voice Pitch Analyzer - One app among many that measures only pitch. Useful for pitch
progress, but not the only measure iOS & Android
• Soundcloud, etc - Upload clips that can be analyzed by others, with tips on how to improve
Its possible to reduce the risk of dysphonia by teaching them techniques to use their voices in a safe
and healthy way. This includes learning how to use the correct vocal techniques, such as proper breath
support and pitch control, as well as how to avoid vocal strain and abuse. Voice training may also
include instruction on how to speak in a lower register, which can help reduce the risk of dysphonia.

Some other methods can include a form of Speech Shadowing, more specifically vocal shadowing. The
methods are more familiar to singers or language learners and require some understanding of the
methods - and might require direct instruction.

The importance of passing

While people may tolerate you presenting as a female while looking like a male most people will not
actually treat you as a female if you try to do that 22 instead most people will regard you as a "man in a
dress" and people will find reasons to dismiss you. You will still be subjected to anti-male double
standards. You may also experience outright bigotry just for being transgender.

If you cannot pass but act overly feminine people will view you as a "caricature of woman" 23

If you cannot pass but act masculine people will discard you for not having feminine behavior.

If you do anything viewed as "sexually inappropriate" for males a lot of people (especially
conservatives) will come down hard on you if they know you are a trans female.
In order to experience the real female social role you need to have people actually believe you are just
another female. That requires passing and not telling other people you weren't born female.

There are of course some pockets of society that are more accepting of trans females who cannot pass
at all but you do not want to be limited to a few areas just to avoid bad treatment by others.

5 things you can do to pass better

0. Do some makeup! Mascara is a 5 minute fix that has tons of feminine allure. Pick 2-3 things to do
before you leave the house
1. Fix your facial hair. If you have a 5 o’clock shadow, cover it up, concealer, whatever. Women don’t
have a beard shadow. Make sure your brows are trimmed, especially if you have a unibrow - keep ‘em
separated!

2. Hips Don’t Lie - Choose clothing and do exercises that help to even the line between your shoulders
and hips. Female figures usually have proportions with hips equal to or larger than shoulder width

3. Smell Good! Proper hygiene like washing yourself, your clothes, and applying good smells like light
lotions with feminine scents (flowery) and perfumes can instantly trigger “feminine” perceptions

4. Sometimes, just stop talking. Being awkward and rambling on about nothing can be a social tell,
particularly if you are concerned about your voice passing. Also, you don’t need to tell everyone you
are trans, all the time! Be selective, there are negative people out there waiting to tear you down

https://transmaxxing.eu/passing/PASSING.html

Hair Care
You will want to avoid washing your hair every day.

Depending on the style you choose, your hair care routine may be different. Most trans females opt for
longer hairstyles that appear more feminine - But you can choose many other styles that might suit you.

0. Avoid shampoo/conditioner combinations, these rarely are effective and can dry out your hair.
1. Use a wide-toothed brush or comb to detangle your hair after washing. This will help prevent
breakage and split ends.
2. Use a heat protectant before using any heat styling tools, such as curling irons or flat irons.
3. Deep condition your hair once a week to keep it hydrated and healthy.
4. Avoid harsh chemicals, such as bleach or hair dye, as these can damage your hair.
5. Trim your hair regularly to prevent split ends.
6. Sleep on a silk pillowcase to prevent breakage and frizz.
7. Protect your hair from the sun by wearing a hat or using a leave-in conditioner with SPF.
8. Avoid tight hairstyles, such as braids or ponytails, as these can cause breakage.
9. Eat a balanced diet to ensure your hair is getting all the nutrients it needs.

Delaying HRT is insanity

As you age testosterone will make you more masculine and it will become increasingly difficult to ever
pass, especially as MtF. Therefore if you already think "maybe i should transition" as a male just do it
now before it's too late. You don't really have time to figure out your identity or what causes your
dysphoria (if you experience any) or whether or not transition is for you.
It will be easier to tell whether or not you really should transition medically once you have already felt
the effects of estrogen, if you stop it quickly there will not be any issues and you will lose hardly
anything. if you refrain from transitioning when you should have done so the cost will be very high.

One criticism against letting minors or kids transition is that most will grow out of it as they go through
puberty, this does not however mean they wouldn't have benefited from early transition (MtF) sperm
can be banked before a child has gone through the full puberty. When you have gone through the full
puberty transition will be a lot more difficult and thus a large portion of individuals who would have
benefited from medical transition before will no longer do so when puberty is fully over. 14-year-old
teenagers has been shown to be competent enough to make medical decisions, their issue is mostly
impulsivity and lack of knowledge, not lack of intelligence.

https://vintologi.com/threads/age-and-mental-abilities.1105/

Medical transition and reproduction

You can still impregnate females by donating sperm if you have it backed up, sure it will be less
convenient but if you are currently involuntarily celibate the chance of you reproducing is so abysmal
it's unlikely to go down further if you make the transition. There are many fertile females who like dick
or want to get pregnant who also happen to be repulsed by other male traits, these women may prefer
sex with a shemale over the total humiliation of having sex with a full male.

Azoospermia caused by HRT is usually reversible provided you still have your testicles. Thus even if
you are unable to access sperm you have banked you might still be able to have biological children by
halting HRT for at 75 days or longer.

The same is not true for FtM, if you are born female transitioning will instead make reproduction a lot
more difficult, especially if you want to do it with a male of high quality.

The temporary HRT option

Often when people transition from male to female their goal is to become as feminine as possible and
this may include surgery to replace a functional penis with something that looks like a vagina but isn't
actually capable of giving birth. The ability to produce sperm is lost but no ability to produce eggs is
gained. The brain itself will be feminized over time, shrunken to female proportions 24

https://genderanalysis.net/2018/03/your-mileage-may-vary-trans-women-and-erectile-function/

HRT will negatively affect athletic performance making it harder for you to build or even maintain
your male strength 25 the longer you stay on HRT the weaker you become 26

Trying to be just like a cis female is a futile exercise, even if you transition early you will still probably
never be able to get pregnant and give birth, breastfeeding will be possible but difficult 27 If your
bones are already masculine there will not be any easy way to 'fix' that if it can be fixed at all.

While breasts needs continued HRT to properly maintain the tissue 28 29 you will still keep a lot of
breasts growth if you go off HRT. If Early HRT gave you female hip bones going off it later isn't going
to reverse that.

Cis female bobybuilders often (not always) get away with taking high doses of testosterone without
getting masculine faces illustrating that high T itself does not always cause masculinization.
Other reasons to stop HRT
By returning to your natural male hormones you will be able to restore your male abilities such as
having a fully functioning male penis (rather than girl-dick) you will be able to become physically
strong again, your brain will start becoming masculine again.

Your breasts and other feminine traits will be retained to some degree and thus you might to a large
extent get the best of both worlds.

You need to ask yourself if having a mostly female biological sex is really beneficial for you.

At some point you will need to socially transition

While it's significantly easier and in many ways better to be androgynous not fitting into the gender
binary is going to make dating significantly more difficult. Thus you instead want to change your
appearance to become as feminine as possible and this includes superficial traits such as hair and
clothing. Boymoding for too long is a bad idea since then you are stuck being a feminine man which is
very much inferior to being a masculine woman, at some point you need to transition socially.

Being on female hormones while trying to present as a male is probably not going to make your life
easier, at least not short-term. If you are not willing to ever transition socially you probably shouldn't
start HRT in the first place. The last thing you want to do is to half-ass your transition where you
basically transition to nowhere in an attempt to deal with gender dysphoria or because you have some
sexual reasons for doing so.

Facial Feminization Surgery

Unfortunately HRT alone is often very ineffective in
feminizing the face, especially if it's only temporary.
Therefore we need something more powerful and it's
here surgery comes into play.

FFS unlike HRT will not feminize your entire biology,

instead the change will be purely cosmetic meaning you
could in theory rely mostly on FFS to pass as a female
without having to constantly be on medication.

Many surgeons will only make minor alterations to the

face but there are doctors who are willing to make a lot
more radical intervention to achieve facial feminization. FFS by Toby Mayer

Good surgeons in the US are Keojampa, Deschamps-Braly, Mardirossian, Jumaily and Harrison Lee.

Good Korean clinics are EverM, EUdental, JK, and The Face Dental. They all do double jaw and are
good with genioplasty.

How society benefits from people transitioning

People that wish to transition usually have comorbid mental disorders 30 31 therefore it might be the
case that society benefit from having many of these people fail to reproduce, this comes with the cost
of using tax-money for these medical expenses and losing women that could provide sexual satisfaction
and other forms of entertainment to other people. People born with genes you do not want to be born
with can also serve society as "genetic clowns" making their clown-genes beneficial for other people.
Males transitioning to female is beneficial for society since it would allow people to have fun fucking
them. Incels transitioning to female is good for society since they will become less likely to develop or
maintain problematic political beliefs or become violent, they will instead benefit from accelerated
hypergamy and gynocentrism.

Less incels trying to force females to waste themselves on losers is a good thing.

It has been proven safe to allow trans-women inside spaces reserved for women 32 33 trying to exclude
them would harm natal women too 34 35 36

Not using tax-money to pay for medical transition would be dysgenic since it would make it more
difficult for poor people to transition.

People improving their lives by transitioning is a beautiful thing

Usually when someone lives a shit life as a male he will just complain about how women are unfair to
him or he will spend his time on various copes such as videogames and anime.

It's very rare for miserable males to actually improve themselves via medical transition, it usually takes
pretty bad gender dysphoria for them to actually take action and even then many fail to act in time.

0. Males transitioning to female makes the world more beautiful, people will be around more beautiful
people which will make most people happier 37
1. People that transition and become beautiful benefit from it
2. People around them will see them improve instead of suffering or killing themselves.
3. Males that transition are politically useful for my goals (maybe also your goals).
4. Trans girls are high in demand and can allow cis lesbians to have biological children with a partner
they find attractive.
5. Voluntary chemical castration makes a male less likely to hurt other (and himself in the process).

I find it strange that people rarely object to psychiatry that outright harms people and costs billions of
dollars each year but they complain about the government helping trans individuals transition even
though it's one of the few mental health interventions that actually work.

Forced feminization
A lot of individuals cannot make it as males and will thus be forced to live as female or suffer the brutal
social consequences of being male, this is especially true for females with gender dysphoria, they might
not like their female bodies but medical transition would still be a disaster for them.
Most males are no longer needed in our modern society, technology has made male strength mostly
obsolete and most males do not have any mental abilities not commonly found in females.

Less than 10% of the male population is needed for reproduction. A big portion of the male population
is just a burden for society and therefore we need to increase the number of males that transition to
female, especially individuals who would clearly benefit from changing their biological sex.

Most males hold onto their male pride but that will soon crash down as females raise their standards
(because they can) and even more males lose their jobs to automation. Currently a lot of excess males
can still be exported to other countries such as as cannon fodder soldiers (a strategy that is already
becoming less useful) but when there is only one state left that isn't going to be an option anymore.

Currently forced treatments are justified by "danger to themselves and others", you do not need to be
convicted of an actual crime. If we are going to treat people against their will that shall include HRT.
A nurse will regularly visit your home. Your pants will be pulled down and soon you will feel a needle
inside your muscle and soon the injection, estradiol enanthate, it will be slowly absorbed by your body.

It started with low dose injections but now it's much higher and at this point hiding the breasts is very
difficult. The estrogen will make you more emotional and thus you will probably start crying due to the
intense humiliation you received by the new government controlled by believers of vintologi. You
crying and begging will of course not stop the nurse from doing the injection.

After a while you will stop resisting and accept your fate as a girl. It will become increasingly difficult
to hide what's happening to you, your breasts getting bigger, face feminized, brain feminized.

Once you have been forced to be on HRT long enough there will not be much left of your old self, the
hormones have changed your brain beyond recognition and now there is no longer any going back, not
only do you look like a girl now, you are now also like a girl mentally.

There are a lot of males who would benefit from transitioning but they are not willing or able to
actually transition, this can be due to social factors but in most cases the issue is ignorance, people
simply don't know what's best for them. It's a difficult and scary decision to make
to start HRT and this is why a lot of people fantasize about forced feminization,
often they try to brainwash themselves via sissy hypno porn.

The overwhelming majority of the prison population are men 38 this is very likely
biological and therefore it is worth giving people drugs that feminize the brain 24
to see if that would make them less of a problem for society. This does not have to
involve any form of social transition to the other gender.

Research already suggests that lowering testosterone will make males less
violent/aggressive 39 40 we also need more research on the mental effects of estrogen/progesterone to
find out if any feminizing hormone or anti-androgens are useful for managing problematic individuals.

Step0: do Randomized Controlled Trials on people choosing to participate in the study rather than
getting some other sentence, then 50% will be given active ingredients and 50% will be given placebo.

Step1: do Randomized Controlled Trials on highly problematic people where they are forced to
participate in the trial, 50% will be given active ingredients while 50% will be given placebo.
Several combinations of drugs will be tested in step1 to find out which (if any) combination of drugs
provide the most benefits. We might for example find progesterone to be more useful than estradiol.

Step2: Do forced HRT trials on males that are unable to complete military service or to contribute to
society in other valuable ways. Males will have to be forced to man-up or become girls.

This will allow us to better understand which individuals who actually benefit from HRT/transition
since we will be able to use proper control groups. Doing step2 will be more difficult if we give
non-criminals full medical autonomy but this is currently not a right non-criminals are given.

Even if it turns out not to be beneficial for society or the individuals subjected to it in Community
Treatment Order setting forced HRT in a more controlling setting may still provide value. Males can be
reduced to property and then given HRT by the ones owning them so they will become useful when it
comes to sexual slavery. There are a lot of fun things you can do to a male reduced to property.

Currently just being suicidal alone can warrant forced treatments by harmful and dangerous psychiatric
drugs, forcing some males to take hormone replacement therapy can thus be justified in an attempt to
prevent them from killing themselves using the same standard (even if it doesn't actually work).

Innate gender identity?

Studies on intersex children show that about 40% will identify as female when raised as one 41 telling
us that gender identity is only partly due to genetics. It's not the case that gender identity is already
determined at birth, the environment and early medical interventions also play a big role 42 43 44 45

This tells us that a lot of people are able to adapt to living as either sex, the brain is flexible and we can
adapt to a lot of things. Whether or not an individual will transition is only partly determined by
genetics (33% in the case of MtF)

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2010to2014/2013-transsexuality.html

Direct vs indirect gender dysphoria

Body dysphoria is direct discomfort (it doesn't feel right) with your body, this goes from mild to
extreme and generally this is difficult or impossible to alleviate without transitioning medically.
Even if you are ok with your current body you might still be a lot happier with a female body.

But you can also suffer in other ways due to being male such as being forced into military service,
being rejected by females you desire, in other ways being treated in ways you don't like because you
are male. Maybe you prefer female clothing but putting on female clothing and wanting to be treated
like a female when you have a male body is a recipe for disaster.

Sure you can try crossdressing in private but that's a rather pathetic cope for not being a girl, just take
your estrogen and you will soon be able to wear female clothing 24/7 without any problems.

Alternatives to medical transition

The only real alternative is to endure all the hardships(dysphoria, etc) that come with being male.

Sometimes moving to another place can work for specific gender issues (you may want to avoid getting
drafted, having an easier time dating, etc) but this is not a general solution since some gender roles are
rather universal and thus difficult to avoid.
There is no evidence-based alternative to medical transition and the limited data we do have on
individuals unwilling/unable to transition show that they are not doing too well. Conversion therapy is
associated with higher reported suicide attempt rate (bad methodology unfortunately).

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/article-abstract/2749479

Therapists and psychiatrists cannot be trusted

Talk therapy in general is questionable; therapist will put effort into making you conform to society,
they will typically not actually look out for your own best interest and usually you will not actually be
given any legitimate advice. Instead the goal with therapy is typically to make the individual think
his/her situation is better than it actually is rather than putting effort into changing it.

https://vintologi.com/threads/therapy-brainwashing.314/

Psychiatry is outright harmful and very dangerous, especially considering how bad mental health laws
are, despite attempts to rig trial no Randomized Controlled Trial has demonstrated any real benefit from
psychiatric drugs so far and other treatments like electroconvulsive therapy are also very questionable

https://vintologi.com/threads/studies-on-psychiatric-drugs.591/

https://vintologi.com/threads/psychiatry-horror-stories.267

https://vintologi.com/threads/psychiatry.737/

http://cepuk.org

Drugs will at best work as a temporary bandage. They will often make you think your situation is better
than it actually is and you may think the drug is helping you when in reality it isn't and you are just
developing addiction/dependence.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3813924/
If you are suffocating to death from covid-19 due to having a weak/incompetent government being
given morphine will make you feel better but it will not actually prevent you from dying and thus you
will be more complacent whilst your government is in effect killing you 46

Why you cannot trust doctors in general

Regulators are there to please politicians and lobbyists, it's not actually in their own best interest to
follow or enforce actual evidence-based medicine. Politicians are mostly interested in pleasing their
voters and donors and absolutely cannot be trusted with any medical decision whatsoever.

If someone is democratically elected or appointed by politicians that are; then clearly they cannot be
trusted any more than you can trust your neighbor with medical advice.

People who are not democratically elected instead have their own special interests or interest in the
wider society which will conflict with your interests as a potential patient.

The interests of doctors does not align with the interests of their potential patients, a doctor does not
actually make money from people being healthy, they make money when people are sick. They have a
vested interest in people pursuing their treatment even if these treatments are harmful to their patients.

Most medical treatments are not based on good evidence https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27032875/

Harmful puberty blockers were given to children for decades but didn't come under scrutiny until they
started being used widely for trans children (who don't need them and don't benefit from them).

https://vintologi.com/threads/why-puberty-blockers-is-a-bad-idea.975

Instead of criticizing these harmful drugs most people who at least claims to be there to support trans
people defended the usage of these drugs that harm trans children while provided zero real benefits for
them (in addition to all the damage done to cis children).

In most countries you are not the one paying for the treatment so you are not even the customer,
therefore there isn't any real incentive for the doctor to actually do what's best for you, instead doctors
will be incentives to please regulators and politicians.

Even if you pay for it them pleasing regulators will still be more important since they have far more
power than you have with your money. Furthermore since a lot of people blindly trust doctors there will
not actually be a particularly strong incentive for them to do a good job since they will get a lot of
patients anyway.

A lot of people spend money going to chiropractors even though it's very likely to do more harm than
good 47 this is far from the only example of quacks having no difficulty getting patients 48

How to do your own research

In order to do research properly you need to look up the actual original data instead of trusting other
people to interpret it correctly for you. The more steps there are between the data and what you hear the
more opportunity there is for other people to manipulate information for the sake of some agenda.

When it comes to medical topics you need to look at the actual full text - especially their actual results,
not their way to interpret the results which often does not actually agree with the data.
You can use https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/ or sci-hub.mksa.top to gain access to the full text, use tor/proxy
if it doesn't load. There is also the less useful https://openaccessbutton.org/

You need to be very critical when appraising studies, you cannot just rely on peer review.

If the study is a meta-analysis you need to find the full text of all individual studies and also read that,
otherwise you will have to trust both the individual studies as a whole and that the authors of the meta-
analysis actually did the analysis correctly which they often have an economic incentive not to.

Do not let anyone gatekeep you from transitioning

You may feel doubt when questioning and seek validation in your desire to transition by asking people
close to you or even ‘medical professionals’ whether you should transition. This is not a good idea.

It's very unlikely anyone close to you has a proper understanding of the consequences that come with
transitioning, what the pros and cons will be for you. If your family of origin is transphobic just
boymode and leave, you don't need them in your life if they become a negative for you.

You have the right to rule over your own body, do not let any doctor or parent take that right away from
you. If you cannot get an official prescription in time just order online 49 it's actually rather cheap. DIY
HRT can be safer and more effective that official prescription 50

You can be honest when you talk with people online and properly hide your real identity but you
probably should not tell people close to you or any gatekeeping doctor that you get aroused by using
female clothing if that is the case for you.

Gender therapists are not basing their recommendations on proper science, instead they will base it on
their (sometimes narrow) views on what it means to be transgender and this will depend on the
therapist.

If you need an official gender identity diagnosis you probably shouldn’t be honest with any therapist
you are forced to talk to, instead just say you suffer from significant gender dysphoria and feel trapped
in the wrong body, say you felt like this as long as you can remember but that you were afraid to talk
about it because you didn’t know how people would react.

Val's transmaxxing story

I was in denial of who i was growing up. Living in a mostly masculine household didn't help either, i
found myself truly starting this internal conflict around the age of 13. This is when i started to discover
my attraction to being feminine, which I later found out is called AGP/meta attraction. I shared my
interest with my younger brother early on by dressing up, to which he wanted to tattle on me in hopes
of some sort of ridicule which drove me into hiding it for years. During my time at school, i only had
one friend and was always seen as an outsider, never truly fitting in. My attempts at dating were
abysmal and it impacted my self esteem. One of my crushes denied me and said she thought i was gay.
The mixed feelings that came from crossdressing and my general social status at school made me feel
like i was a failure as a man and that i would die an incel virgin. My mom passed away when i was 15
and that worsened my depression and suicidal thoughts. I probably would commit suicide if my family
didnt discover my secret. They found out when i was 16, Initial family support was more of
indifference which did give me relief. I publicly came out at 17 before the end of highschool,
classmates already ignored me prior so nothing changed there either. The general public and school
staff were tremendous support though!
A school counselor gave me avenues to find friends and even gave me a wig!

The principal even gave me full permission to raid the lost and found for clothing i wanted. Men would
frequently help me when the occasion arises, and i could even use pictures of myself to farm
compliments online. Undoing the 5 years of repression wasn’t too easy of a task, i was even too scared
to even attempt a feminine voice early on! Living with 2 brothers and a dad, i didn't have a feminine
role model when i needed one, but slowly and surely i learned how to take care of my looks and form
feminine mannerisms. Through the improvement of my social situation and treatment of peers at work,
I learned to authentically smile and love myself.

I would say i completed my social transition when i legally changed my name at 20. One of my biggest
regrets was not transitioning earlier, both socially and with HRT. I've had a mild distrust in mental
health growing up and always thought they would try to make me detransition if i was to honestly
explain how i felt and that my biggest driving motive for wanting hrt is that i want breasts and that i
enjoy being feminine. I was told that gender dysphoria had to be about a discomfort about how you
looked as your current gender, which isn't really what i felt i experienced. You could say some past
behavior were indications of gender dysphoria or even use the term “gender euphoria” but i personally
felt like i decided to transition without really experiencing gender dysphoria. googling didn't show me
much about DIY HRT at the time (and i wasn't great at research back then either) so a common thing
that was brought up was bovine ovary. My family’s indifference made it so they never really brought
up the idea of HRT, it was only when i was 21 and friends i made in post secondary that were
concerned with me taking bovine ovary and said i should see my doctor. That led to the realization of
how poor the transgender systems are in my area as my doctor referred me and i got put on a 3 year
waitlist. Before i socially transitioned i didn't experience gender dysphoria, however that changed after
presenting as a woman and being addressed as male. During the last year on the waitlist i also finally
found my feminine role model which i slowly fell in love with. This partner has allowed me to open up
intimately and truly connect as a lover. My biggest insecurity from adolescence shattered on the first
date!

The psychiatrist greenlighted me for hormones on the first

consultation as they clearly saw that i was sure about this part of my
life, my name legally changed, practiced voice and everything, all
that worry for nothing. I have been absolutely loving the changes of
HRT, far more noticeable than what I was doing prior. I love that i
am more expressive and in tune with my emotions, this has made
me enjoy the art of stories a lot more. I make deeper connections
with friends and have a much easier time talking to women!
Sexually everything is better as well, my breasts have developed (B cup) and feel much more sensitive,
penetration is more sensual, and now even getting an erection has a nice tingling feeling. In a sense the
hormones also fixed my AGP. I still experience AGP, I just only get hard during intimate times with my
partner. I may not cum from every sexual encounter but it still feels way more pleasurable than my
previous experiences.

The anti androgens i was prescribed gave problematic side effects and Iiwould only suggest caution in
your dosage, or using bicalutamide. spironolactone was making me dizzy and low energy, it was so bad
i could not actually stand up long enough to work. Changing to cyproterone was giving a massive
downturn in erections and has made me emotionally unstable. Only now that I’m doing
monotherapy(estradiol only no anti androgens) i feel the best i have ever been compared to being
overdosed on AAs from my endocrinologist.
Finding relationships has been getting better, friends and family telling me i'm looking much better. i
sometimes get small bits of doubt in my mind about what im doing, but they vanish and i come back
stronger remembering how suicidal i was before. Coincidentally, i found the transmaxxing discord
from people trying to hate on the idea. “Failed men thinking they can be an ultimate woman” as put in
the hate post. This piqued my curiosity considering it sounds close to how i transitioned. The users in
this discord were the ones to enlighten me that the attraction to being feminine is called autogynephilia
(AGP), that it’s nothing to be ashamed of and that even cis women can experience this. It took me a
little while to fully understand what the discord was all about. it's nothing like other trans spaces but i
felt a sense of belonging right away. Getting to hear multiple transition stories and see new transitioners
come to terms with who they are has really been a delight and has given me a healthier perspective on
trans identity. The voice chats that happened helped make me completely comfortable with my voice.

Once i understood the purpose of transmaxxing i decided

that i will help this community as much as i can, seeing
AGP being vilified everywhere is disheartening. It's not like
you really can control that kind of thing either, instead of
getting the support they need, they repress for decades. It
wasn't long until i was in a leadership role, this helped me
become far more confident in my own judgment and how
to lead other people IRL. The openness of the server allows
for a wide variety of differing opinions and perspectives,
and helps me stay grounded (to an extent). The social space
tested me and let me take risks with decision making.

Now as Goddess Empress of the movement, i am making

strides towards improving the inner culture as well as
public perception! Altogether, transmaxxing taught me a lot
more than just how to improve my transition, i learned how
to be a more powerful individual who can forge my own
destiny.

Here's to a better future!

HRT reduces distress

Both perceived stress and measured cortisol levels were
reduced with Hormone Replacement Therapy.

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1111/jsm.12155

Turns out that all the people saying "HRT reduced my dysphoria" weren't lying (to themselves/others).
Study: Transsexuals who ignored bureaucratic guidelines did just fine afterwards and got
treatment much earlier
A finish study compared trans people who ignored the bureaucracy with people who tried to follow the
nonsense gatekeeping procedures. Here are the results:

https://sci-hub.yncjkj.com/10.1080/15532739.2011.618399

Patients were deemed as non-compliant if they had done at least 3 of the following

• Delivered a deliberately falsified story at assessment.

• Began hormone therapy without any recommendation by the psychiatrist.
• Did not keep contact with the psychiatrist during the everyday life experience.
• Had genital surgery without any recommendation from the psychiatrist.
• Had first name changed without any recommendation by the psychiatrist.

Unsurprisingly we see that the less compliant patients overall actually did better since they got a
treatments that were overall beneficial earlier while the more compliant patients ended up waiting a
years needlessly for no benefit.

Unfortunately this study is limited for people who eventually opted for SRS so it does not tell us the
outcomes of people who never opted for any genital surgery.
Trapped in the wrong body?
One prevalent trans stereotype is “a girl trapped in a male body” which people often use to justify their
transition by them fitting into that stereotype to some degree. Is there any scientific truth to this?

Brainscans do show that prior to transitioning and after male puberty MtF individuals have brains
somewhere between male and female (when looking averages for these 3 groups) 51

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25720349

This is not surprising considering the male socialization and male hormones these individuals have
been subjected to. Studies on trans children do however show that they develop like the sex they
identify is psychologically

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/49/24480

How well you fit into the “female trapped in a male body” stereotype does not tell you whether or not
you would actually benefit from transitioning. You do not have to conform to female stereotypes to be
valid as a trans girl.

There are many other factors to consider such as how well you would pass.

Female sexuality?
There are a lot of similarities between cis and trans girls in terms of sexuality and it’s difficult to detect
any clear difference. Different studies have different results.

Similar to cis females trans females typically exhibit female embodiment sexual fantasies.

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Who-Is-This-About-An-Exploratory-Study-of-Erotic-Fertel/
21205f4733a13460b8ca34c7312deb3eede51f28

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918360903005212

R. B. posited that all transsexuals that are not

androphilic are autogynephilic. This has been
thoroughly debunked, starting with his own data. Some
transsexual fits into his “AGP” and “HSTS” categories,
but it is not all of them. He handwaved that away by
saying that counter-examples to his hypothesis are either
liars or that their androphilia is “meta-attraction” and
adding more and more types of AGP. By using an
unfalsifiable reasoning, he put his hypothesis within the
realm of pseudoscience rather than science.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/
10.1080/00918369.2010.486241

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/
339738869_Sexual_Behavior_Desire_and_Psychosexual_Experience_in_Gynephilic_and_Androphilic
_Trans_Women_A_Cross-Sectional_Multicenter_Study
https://www.juliaserano.com/av/Serano-CaseAgainstAutogynephilia.pdf

https://archive.is/v9MI9 https://archive.is/XVt6o

https://archive.is/JiAVq https://archive.is/KXaQd

This of course has not stopped transphobes and a few naive or self-hating trans girls from believing in
that pseudoscience, a lot of people repress thinking they are “not really transgender” because of that,
this is very harmful. Often people ignore how hormones have a big impact on sexuality (E vs T).

There might actually be some truth to the notion of pseudo-bisexuality. Many cis females also describe
something like pseudo-androphilia where they have rather limited attraction to males 52 53

Denial and paranoia among repressors

I have noticed that a lot of individuals unwilling to transition become paranoid thinking everyone is
trying to manipulate them into transitioning.

If you have transitioned yourself they will think "she is just trying to recruit me to the trans cult" (in
reality there are several factions among transgender individuals, people have different views).
If you have not transitioned yourself they will think "why isn't he following his own advice" even
though he isn't in the same situation as you, he might be married with children and thus would never
come close to passing while you would become a cute girl and drastically improve your life.

When people give you bad advice it's usually because they are simply mistaken, it's not due to them
intentionally trying to hurt you, if someone states "i think you should transition" he and she probably
believe you would benefit from it.

Repressors often listen to transphobes telling them "it's just a fetish" but that is very rarely true, almost
always it’s far deeper than that, it's not like the typical fetish you can just ignore.

While you repress and listen to what transphobes tell you your body will become destroyed over time
by testosterone often to the point where it's too late for you to ever pass as a girl.

https://transsubstantiation.com/a-letter-to-anne-lawrence-709fac0af75e?gi=2765e278afe3

The fact that you destroyed your life by not transitioning when you were young can be very painful and
because of that a lot of people are in denial and tell themselves "i am doing the right thing by
repressing" which typically do not work out too well.

Factors to consider before transitioning

There are many factors to consider. How functional is your life now as a male?

How is your sex-life?

Is there any real hope for you improving your situation while not transitioning and would it be a level
of improvement you would be satisfied with?

When was the last time you got sex without outright paying for it?

Then you compare that to how your life would be as a trans girl, would that be an improvement for
you?

Are you willing and able to have children if you stay male?

Would you be able to pass as a female?

Ideal height as a female

If you are taller than 6.1 feet (185.4cm)
you will probably not be able to ever pass
as a female even if you start HRT early in
life. The ideal female length is 168 to
176cm but being a short female is still far
better than being a short male.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-ideal-
height-for-a-woman-to-have-
%E2%80%94-in-terms-of-being-happy-
with-her-own-height
You can expect to lose about 1 inch (2.54cm) after starting HRT.

The dating market is changing

Old studies are misleading since what was true 10 years ago no longer holds

0. A lot of people today begin transition early making it far easier to integrate with the other sex.
1. It is now significantly harder to date as heterosexual male
2. The transbian dating pools is a lot bigger making it easier to date as gynephilic trans female.
3. Being transgender is now far more accepted socially.
4. Dating as androphilic female is now a lot easier.

Because of these factors we can expect trans-females to have better outcomes when they transition
while gynephilic trans-males will have significantly worse outcomes.

Dating as trans female

If you become attractive as trans girl you will be able to date cis and trans individuals of both genders.

Some trans girls that improve their dating lives believe this is just because they are happier now being
the gender they want to be and while this may be a small factor a far bigger factor is the overall dating
situation for males and females.

Having to compete just to get sex at all is a heterosexual male thing, it’s not really a thing among trans
girls, then instead loads of males are going to outdo each other trying to get into your pants and there
will not be any shortage of guys wanting to date you even if you are not attractive at all. The fact that
you will now be able to at least get sex does of course not guarantee that you will be able to find a
partner that's actually good for you, it's especially hard to find good males.

If you instead just date other trans girls you will be able to find someone of similar attractiveness, if
you live in a highly-populated area the transbian dating pool will be big enough for you to find a
matching partner close to you, otherwise you might have to travel or have it online only.

Why SRS is a bad idea

A girl with a penis is exotic and may thus have an easier time dating than a trans girl with a vagina, at
least unless the bottom surgery results are very good.

It’s difficult to find any good MtF bottom surgery results, most are really bad. Some are ok in terms of
appearance but most are not:

http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/SRS/Results.aspx

https://www.mozaiccare.net/photos-1-year-postop

It is worth nothing that these photos can be cherry-picked in addition to being intentionally misleading
(such as angle where it looks less bad) so the actual results are likely to be even worse.

Natural vaginas look much better, you can easily tell the difference:

http://www.labialibrary.org.au/photo-gallery/
This means that people might be able to tell that you are trans when you are naked even if you have
undergone SRS, main reason why some people are fooled is ignorance.

You need to ask yourself if you really want to hide the fact that you are born male from your sexual
partners. Isn't it better to find people who actually love you for who you are?

Sure SRS can make it easier to pass as a female in a public shower/changing room but why would you
want to be naked with random females in the first place? If you are decently attractive you can have a
much better experience showering with your partner(s) instead of ugly old females.

You shouldn't have a barbaric surgery in an attempt to get treated better in a transphobic shithole. It's
much better to simply leave to live somewhere else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ4EBmKO3aE

If you look at actual studies you will find that it's not surgeries trans people benefit from. Only HRT
has a significant positive association with quality of life in multivariate regression.

If your SRS is a failure 54 there will probably not be any way to fix it later, it's irreversible.

In-addition SRS generally require regular dilation, otherwise the pseudo-vagina will gradually shrink as
the body tried to heal the damage inflicted upon it 55

Reproductive function
While a neovagina could allow for natural impregnation (if functional wombs and ovaries were added,
etc) no current neovagina option would allow for childbirth, they cannot expand enough to support that,
not even close.

While SRS doesn't add any female reproductive abilities it will remove valuable male reproductive
abilities usually leaving the patient permanently infertile besides any sperm that may or may not have
been banked. Just relying on banked sperm is probably not a good idea if you want children. If you
keep your testicles you might be able to restore your fertility by temporarily stopping HRT.

Most females are probably not going to be willing to use banked sperm to get pregnant and it's also
limited to one location, what if you later move to a different location?

Sexual function
SRS does not add much if any sexual function.

Most SRS surgeries does not add the ability to lubricate naturally 56 That will make sex inconvenient
in general. If the neovagina breaks it will not heal by itself, further surgeries will be required 57 58

Anal sex works just fine and it does not require any dilation or surgery. Thanks to the prostate you can
enjoy very powerful orgasms from asspounding and here lies another problem, with SRS the neovagina
will be created between the rectum and the prostate which is very likely to make anal sex less
pleasurable.

With SRS you will also lose the ability to put a dick inside someone else which will limit your options
when it comes to sexual activities.
By having a penis as a girl you are exotic, if you have SRS you lose the thing that make you stand out
compared to cis females you will then have a hard time competing with people born female (who
usually are fertile and have more attractive genitals).

What if you have genital dysphoria?

It's not clear to me that having surgery to construct something that doesn't look anything close to a
natural vagina would be particularly helpful for that. Sure you can tell yourself "i like they way it
looks" but i do not think living in a state of constant delusion is good for you.

Maybe it's just me but i do not like the idea of removing parts of your body because they make you
uncomfortable or whatever. Should people with Body Integrity Identity Disorder cut off their leg/arm
Physical health should come first, mental health will be a function of you in general living a good life.
The issue with how mental health is currently addressed is that short-term gain comes at the price of
long-term pain, this is a general issue with psychiatry.

The following study did found that the "mental health" metric increased temporarily after SRS only to
fall back to the level it was prior to the surgery.

As seen here there was no statistically significant short-term benefit and control group.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5440516/

Limitations of the study include incomplete follow-up and the inability to adjust results for clinical
factors such as comorbidities, sociodemographic factors, and hormonal treatment.

I tried finding the data regarding the response-rate for the follow-ups but i failed to find that, it may
have been intentionally hidden by the study authors. It might be the case that people unhappy with their
results just disappeared and that only the ones somewhat satisfied continued to participate.

The study authors did point out that the quality of life will decrease over time also among the general
population but that's not a proper control group, we need to compare it to trans females people who did
not undergo that surgery.

Study: suicide attempt doubled increased after SRS

The suicide attempt rate 2 year after MtF SRS was double the rate of the 2 years prior to surgery and
there really isn't any plausible excuse for this.

https://www.auajournals.org/doi/10.1097/JU.0000000000001971.20

Rates of these encounters were calculated before and after gender affirming surgery (using date of first
operation if staged). On average, patients had a balanced two years of observation before and after their
surgery.
Why breast implants are a bad idea
You don't want a big silicon bag in your breasts. It will also look nothing like natural/HRT breast
growth. You can very easily tell if someone has had BA 59 (unless it's very subtle to the point of not
making a real difference).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3bNS74lASs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78kgIOBKkmQ

Instead we simply have to look at various hormonal options for more breast growth 10

Why we need to ban FtM transition

A good government should have the authority to ban harmful medical treatments, this includes FtM
transition (with few/no exceptions)
0. FtM transition is detrimental for the fertility-rate in most cases (no good way to preserve fertility).
1. FtM transition makes the incel problem worse.
2. FtM transition result in less beautiful females in society.
3. FtM transition seem to have worse overall outcomes in studies.
4. FtM transition generally rely more on irreversible surgeries (such as mastectomies leaving
permanent scars).
5. The effects from testosterone are much harder (if not impossible) to reverse than the effects from
estrogen. A lot of AFAB individuals will get ruined for life just from taking testosterone.
6. Testosterone comes with various negative health complications 60 61 62 63 64

The FtM dating situation is often a complete disaster:

This illustrates that while you do have to deal with a lot of nonsense because of your gender as a female
it’s still far better than the typical life you live as a male in a functional modern society.

About gender identity

For some people their gender (current or desired) is an important part of their identity. This however is
far from universal, for most people their gender is not something they focus on, they simply go along
with natural biology and focus on other things instead, most people are not really cis in a strict sense.

For some people their gender (current or desired) is an important part of their identity. This however is
far from universal, for most people their gender is not something their focus on, they just go along with
natural biology and focus on other things instead, most people are not really cis in a strict sense.

So while some people have their gender tied to their identity or have a very strong preference for
having certain sex-characteristics other people just want a body that works and instead focus on other
things such as having a successful career or trying to become better some competitive videogame.

Some people like to think "i am a girl trapped in a male body" but this is simply false prior to hormone
replacement therapy 17 18 (after male puberty).

About gender identity politics

Gender identity politics is focused on gender identity rather than the biological characteristics of your
body or simply looking at individual merit. Many feminists push for quotas based on gender instead of
just trying to hire the most suitable people for the job, you then run into the issue of deciding who
exactly that will qualify as female/women when doing the discrimination 65

Gender identity politics is often used against trans individuals, it is claimed that males will pretend to
be transgender to get access to female spaces, this is of course extremely rare but it's still an effective
scare tactic. One potential issue with downplaying the importance of biological characteristics such as
ability to breastfeed is that then it will be more difficult to push for early medical transition, then
society can easier get away with not allowing teens to transition "you can just identify as female, you
do not need to medically transition".

It is a fact that the later you start your transition the more you will end up being different from the
average cis female; hip bones fuse at age 25, other bones finish masculinization even earlier 66 67

Pushing for the notion that sex-characteristics shouldn't matter is harmful for trans people since that
would undermine the importance of access to medical transition. Rather than coping with "i can
identity as a women" why not make sure people can become female for real?

The gender abolitionist, gender identity crowd are lesbians and radfems who are attempting to claw
back from trans women the title of “most oppressed body.” they also reject being women out of
internalized misogyny and to distance themselves from trans women. if gender is just an identity, then
trans women are just males who identify as women, and everything reverts back to genitalia at birth.
it’s genius, really.

Intersex people are also affected by these things, often they are surgically mutilated to fit into either
gender category and sometimes it turns out the gender that were assigned to them didn't fit them
particularly well. Them then being able to just identify as the sex they want to be will not solve the
issue of them having been mutilated.
Detrans people may identity as the sex they were born as even though biologically they are not there
and they will never truly be there again, often gender transitions are partly irreversible. While pointing
this out may seem cruel it's important to recognize biological reality.

Rather than focusing on arbitrary categories like race and gender we need to focus on what actually
matters for a given situation. For ordinary social interactions what really matters is how you appear, if
you look female people will treat you based on that. A male looking to molest females will not base that
decision on chromosomes or sex at birth.

About women's sports

Your performance in sports will depend largely on the physical characteristics of your body, not which
gender you identity as. It makes no sense to segregate sports based on gender identity and it also
doesn't make sense to segregate based on sex at birth since allowing FtM individuals in the female
category would be very unfair to females not ruining their bodies with testosterone.

Depending on the sport and what rules there are for trans females you may or may not be able to
quality for the female category and maintain an advantage over cis females.

HRT will of course make you weaker and diminish your performance in physical sports

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2020/11/06/bjsports-2020-102329.full?
ijkey=yjlCzZVZFRDZzHz&keytype=ref

The 15–31% athletic advantage that transwomen displayed over their female counterparts prior to
starting gender affirming hormones declined with feminising therapy. However, transwomen still had a
9% faster mean run speed after the 1 year period of testosterone suppression that is recommended by
World Athletics for inclusion in women’s events.

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577.full?ijkey=yjlCzZVZFRDZzHz&keytype=ref

Not a single trans female was able to win a medal in the 2020 olympics, Laurel Hubbard was the only
one to even quality but 2 of 3 judges disapproved of her 125 Kg lift and after failing her final attempt
she was out of the tournament.

It is worth nothing that the weight-class system used for female weight-lifting would be unfair to cis
females even if there were no trans females since the highest class that limit the body weight has a
cutoff at 93kg which effectively screw over females weighting a bit more than that. Trans females
having an advantage in weight-lifting could be rectified by adding adjustment parameters such as age
where the transition was started and deducting the breast-weight from the total weight of the female
(otherwise female with smaller breasts would get an unfair advantage).

While sports if often painted as a fair and equal playing field the reality is very different from that in
the more athletic competitions, it's about cheating as much as you can while getting away with it.

https://www.sportscasting.com/how-exactly-did-lance-armstrong-cheat/

So while attempts are made to catch cheaters many are never found out and by getting away with that
you can get a huge advantage, this is how you actually win and it's arguably a far greater factor then
whether or not you can get an advantage via gender-transition.
Athletic sports like it exists today arguably shouldn't even be a thing. It does not promote health, it does
not promote beauty. You would for example benefit from removing any body-part that does not benefit
you in said sport (such as breasts if you are female) and if nobody is willing to do that females with
naturally small breasts should be at an advantage in most athletic competitions.

Sports based on precision or intellectual ability (such as snooker) are less problematic but it's arguably
still not the best usage of your time to focus heavily on that, in order to compete on a high level you
will need to invest a huge amount of time into it while it's very unlikely that it will actually pay off.

It's far better to focus on things that are actually likely to make a real improvement for your quality of
life, being good at sports or video-games is very unlikely to be particularly helpful for you in the real
world you live in.

It would be great if trans females killed women's sports (like many conservatives have predicted) but
sadly that is very unlikely to actually happen, instead they will just change the rules if trans females
start doing too well by banning them completely or making it harder for them to compete (such as
adjusting the weight-class system in the case of weightlifting).

It was believed that high T would provide an advantage and this ended up implicating intersex females.
Some intersex females are now fighting back against this:

https://www.news24.com/sport/othersport/athletics/caster-semenya-files-lawsuit-in-european-court-
this-fight-is-not-just-about-me-20210225

If they actually have an advantage that would just be one of many natural advantages some people can
have. Where do we draw the line?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiCftTLUzCI

Self-ID as a tool for legal gender equality

Self-ID can be useful for circumventing discrimination based on legal sex.

If your state doesn't recognize same-sex marriage self-ID would allow you to circumvent that.

If there are gender quotas people disingenuously self-identifying as the other sex can allow the most
qualified people to get positions instead of picking someone less qualified based on their sex. This will
of course upset some feminists but it's of a beneficial for society since you get better governance.

In many of these cases where self-ID is 'abused' it's arguably a good thing since having laws depend on
some arbitrary definition of gender doesn't really make sense anyway. If we are going to divide humans
into classes going by sex/gender would be far from ideal. There are far better ways to do that 68

In general self-id can be weaponized to push for gender egalitarianism by making legal sex near
meaningless, abolishing discrimination based on legal sex isn't always politically viable.

Woman = Adult Human Female

Some people have suggested to divorce the concept of woman from sex such as wanting to define
womanhood based on some gender identity or by defining it based on what roles you perform on
society. Is there really value in classifying male crossdressers as women?
Why not instead define womanhood based on whether or not someone is an 18+ human female?

When trans people medically transition with HRT the transition itself will be biological, all the
hormones do is signal to the body what to do, you already have the genes needed to grow fully
functioning breasts capable of breastfeeding. Trans females are female and thus women when 18+.

Breastfeeding
In 2018 the medical journal Transgender Health published a case study that grabbed headlines
everywhere from the New York Times to the Guardian, documenting how a New York transgender
woman was able to use a regimen of drugs to induce lactation and become her child’s only source of
nutrition for six weeks. It was hailed as the “first formal report in the medical literature of induced
lactation in a transgender woman,” as authors Zil Goldstein and Dr. Tamar Reisman told the Times.

Yet this was no news to many within the transfeminine community, where it has been widely
understood that trans women can breastfeed for years. In online forums and on social media, trans
women have long shared anecdotal accounts of methods used and success achieved in lactating and
feeding their children. As far back as 2010, Dr. Christine McGinn, a trans surgeon who specializes in
gender reassignment surgery, appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show in a sensationalized segment that
revealed she had both fathered her children and was the sole parent to breastfed them. What’s more
surprising is that it took this long for a medical journal to document the process.

In order to breastfeed you first need to have fully developed female breasts which you will get from
Hormone Replacement Therapy, next you will have to trigger the lactation and there are multiple ways
to do that.

One commonly-used method for non-gestational cisgender and transgender women to induce lactation
is called the Newman Goldfarb protocol. It relies on the anti-nausea drug domperidone, which is
banned by the FDA due to heart health risks (but widely used in Europe and Canada). Dr. Molly
Moravek, a reproductive endocrinologist at the University of Michigan, praised the fact that more
people are now talking about how trans women can breastfeed in the same way as cisgender women
but worries that people will “miss the part where the very last thing they say in the study is that we still
need to do more research to figure out the right doses of these medications.” And indeed, induced
lactation in trans women is still highly experimental.

Kaia, 30, Toronto, ON

My wife and I have a really nice basis for comparison, because we went from two boobs to four boobs
when I transitioned. There’s a lot more sleep this time around, and a lot more ability for my wife to be
able to go out and know that you’re not going to have a baby freakout. I remember back when we had
our first child, five years ago, she had to go somewhere for an hour, and the baby’s sitting there
screaming, and we hadn’t pumped milk before that. We were first-time parents, we were 24, didn’t
know what we were doing, and i was just freaking out. I texted her and said “I don’t know what to do, i
can’t feed the baby, what do i do?” We just wound up having a baby scream for a half hour, and she
came back and felt really horrible.

Stuff like that doesn’t happen anymore. We’ve had two people to get a baby to sleep, two people to
feed it, and I don’t know if this is in any way correlated, but we’ve never had a baby grow this fast
before. They gained back their birth weight in a week, and they’re gaining an average of 1.1 ounces a
day, and have maintained that consistently.
Brettany, 56, Texas
My body will never allow me to conceive and bear a child, and I've always wanted to at least be able to
nurse one. That was the main motivation for this. The secondary motivation was that i wanted to bring
my breasts to full maturity. At that time i was comfortably into stage four on the Tanner scale [a system
used to medically qualify the development of secondary sex characteristics], and from my research i
realized most cis women do not even make it to Tanner stage five unless they've gone through
pregnancy or a lactation protocol, because it requires that extra bit of development that prepares you for
breastfeeding in order to finish the development of your breasts.

I did some research about lactation and tried to dig up whatever i could on it, and came across a
protocol called Newman Goldfarb.

With a fairly long session, i could produce about an ounce. It was kind of funny because my spouse has
really struggled with my breasts growing and at that point she was giving me tips on how to stimulate
more milk production. I think that i would have done quite a bit more, except at about that time we
found out we had to move to move to another city, and then we’ve had to move again since. I've stayed
away from the progesterone in hopes that at some point i can re-lactate and get into donation.

It was a very satisfying experience, but it was also very taxing. If you get into donating, you have to
keep the kind of schedule that a new mother needs to keep. It's really, really intense.

Dr. Laura Arrowsmith D.O., 68, Tulsa, OK

When I was in my late 50s, i decided that i was going to try this to see if i could do it. I underwent a
drug regimen and used a breast pump fairly regularly. And gosh, within about a month, i guess, i was
producing milk!

After i got to the point where i understood that i could lactate, i didn’t pursue it further — i didn’t have
any need to maintain lactation. It’s a supply and demand sort of thing, so i stopped the medication and
the pumping and of course I dried up. It was just super, super neat.

I think it strongly reinforced my sense of womanhood. I had some great inner satisfaction in knowing
that i could do what a cisgender woman could. It was very important to me, and i’m proud and happy
that i did that.

My main career was as a radiologist. I retired from that about a year ago; I’ve seen my own
mammograms and there’s absolutely no way that a radiologist could look at my mammogram and say
“Oh, that person’s trans.” Breast tissue is breast tissue. Looks identically, works identically.

The lactation thing for me just affirmed my womanhood, I think that was the most important part.

Individual who transitioned due to social dysphoria

I've lactated small amounts due to hormonal changes or other factors.

I have no doubt i could in larger amounts if it was a goal.

Am i a transmaxxer?
I transitioned five years ago when i was 16. Not because of dysphoria but because i was tired of being a
5'4 feminine man who constantly got bullied and harassed by other people. It wasn't my height and
build only i was very feminine in demeanor and manners too.
I was naturally feminine and shy so living as a woman just seemed like a better choice than living as a
"failed man".I never experienced any dysphoria over my body(pre or post transition) but i can say that
transitioning improved my life tremendously.

Before transitioning i was a feminine man who was mercilessly bullied/beaten up and no woman would
ever date. Nowadays, i fully pass as a woman, have many friends, a gf and strangers treats me well i
never thought i was a woman "trapped" in a male body, i just considered living as a normal woman was
much better than living as a feminine man which proved right in my case

For me the whole concept of dysphoria & euphoria has always been a mystery, i was always fine with
my body both as a woman and as a man and only transitioned due to social reasons

Can anyone else relate to this?

You have the right to stand up for your life and future
Hi, I'm a trans woman, having gotten on hormones six years ago and been three years living as a
woman. While I have had hints of being transgender since age five, transitioning wasn't a real desire till
age 16 (when I first realized what was possible), and not a serious desire till age 25. I didn't exactly feel
like other transwomen (identifying as female since very young), but the desire to transition was deep.
Even then though, I did try to make the best of the time when I was still living as male, but given my
trans nature and inner desires, it was never a future for me.

Anyway, I say this because given my experience of being forced to present as male for the majority of
my life, I made many observations that ultimately led to me transitioning not just for my inner gender
reasons, but for practical reasons.
Growing up in the male gender, I was essentially sold on believing that males are superior than females
since a very young age. The male gender sells you on certain values, and obviously females don't excel
as much as males in those certain values, so along with the dominance of males on certain more
aggressive things, leads you to believe initially that males are the superior gender.

However, there is a reason society sells you on that. They want to make males aggressive and
unemotional so they would do good in war, as these traits are valuable for war. Being aggressive and
unemotional also helps in making (corporations) money. Also, it is desirable for certain women (who
want a man as an emotional rock to counter their emotional vulnerability.). All of this is not for your
benefit, but for society's benefit. Yet society doesn't care if you lose your life or get disabled when you
are at the battlefield, and society doesn't care about the harm that is done because you are in an
emotional strait jacket, unable to express most of the rest of your feelings, and certainly without the
frown of most everyone. As a male, you are seen as expendable, as someone to be used and thrown
away. By the very nature that society needs many more females than males to continue to survive,
males for a large part are seen as unneeded and thus have to prove their value to society because they
have no innate value, and are actually seen as a liability because they do the vast majority of crimes. In
addition, because males feel the desire to support their family and loved ones, greedy capitalists have
used that to prey on men, using males as mules to do the vast majority of hard, dirty and dangerous
work, and have encouraged them to center their lives on work and make their identity synonymous
with their job title. Because emotional freedom and vulnerability is seen as detrimental to the
expectations that society has on males, it is frowned upon by society (unless a man has already proved
his masculinity, which is only to males at the top of society.). In addition, with society denying them
emotional support (unless it is with a caring female partner), males go through life emotionally
damaged and needing drugs and alcohol and other escapes just to deal with their pain, and this is in
addition to the damages done by the natural order of mating.

By the nature of mating, females have all the power and especially the power of choice. Thus, males
are dependent on the desire and whims of females. I would say that women have the right to choose an
optimal partner for themselves since they will have to live with the consequences if they happen to not
choose an optimal partner, as choosing an unoptimal partner can lead to being a single mom that will
have to struggle with 20 or so years of raising a child on her own, or having an abusive partner, or
having a sexually underwhelming relationship, or even just a subpar relationship. Women in general get
more attached with guys than the opposite. In addition, since family and society also basically tell
women what to look for in a partner, picking an unoptimal partner can have social consequences like
family disapproval and a damage of image by peers. One thus has to understand this right for women to
choose optimally. Given that, it makes life cruel for men that are not seen as optimal partners by
women, as society puts the hurdles that males have to go through quite high. Remember though that
even males in the animal kingdom are also put through high hurdles, so you can't just get angry at
society, it's the nature of the mating game. However, since our society basically shuts off any emotional
support to males, males have only a sympathetic woman to be able to confide in if they can find one
(which will usually be their girlfriend/wife, but sometimes even just a hooker), and even then there are
limits as a girlfriend could eventually feel like her boyfriend is both unattractive (because attraction is
based partly on admiration) and is just not masculine (and thus reliable) enough to be with anymore.
Thus males are forced to do whatever they can to get a girlfriend, otherwise they will have to deal with
the pain of loneliness and having to bottle everything up and just live with it. Males are thus essentially
forced to be masculine enough to easily get a partner, and with so many males competing for that,
many just won't be able to make the cut unless they can make a lot of money and attract a woman that
way, but what if that is off the table? Well then they are screwed, and if they are not fit to be used by
society in other ways, they can crawl into a hole and die as far as society can care.
People in countries like the U.S. and China have to compete in a cold uncaring society, and thus is why
they have to take their own life in their own hands and fight for their own life and ability to live.
Thus, society feeds propaganda about masculine superiority to males to get them to not question why
they are being used for battlefield fodder and as economic mules by society. Whatever privileges males
get in society comes at the expense of emotional desolation, always having to look tough, always
having to defend one's own image, and being ultimately expendable by society and ending up as a lone
wolf. Even an alpha male can end up as a lone wolf as many males can only keep their attraction power
if they are able to maintain their success (which is very hard in a highly competitive society) and as
soon as they lose their great job and money, they lose everything (likely including their wife and
children) and few women want a man who is an emotional wreck and a failure. I have seen this with
my own eyes and the burden placed on men is unfairly extreme, but only women had a gender
expectations revolution that gave women more freedom since the 70's. As a woman, I don't have to
worry about looking tough anymore or anyone treating me less than if I don't appear sufficiently
masculine. Beyond my anxieties of passing, I feel a lot more comfortable talking to women AND men,
since with men I don't have to put up the armor so to speak.

I do have to say that there are some real caveats with being a woman. If you are the entrepreneurial
type, it is much harder to be a woman because of the boys club that it still is. As a woman, you will be
judged a lot more on your looks, so you have to keep up a lot more on body maintenance. If you
happen to have any aggressive traits that you can't or don't want to get rid of, it will create some gender
expression anxiety. Also, you may feel guilty if your around pretty ciswomen and get turned on by
them and they don't know that your trans and attracted to women (however women getting attracted to
other women is not as much of an issue with younger generations who are more LGBT friendly.)

Me as a trans woman, I don't think anyone should be forced to be in a gender that harms them. I had the
choice of not transitioning and living life as an unwanted, uncared about shy single male with
increasing baldingness and especially not being sufficiently masculine enough to get and keep a woman
(for obvious reasons) and to continue having male friends, and I felt like there was no future for me
down that path, so I risked everything and transitioned, and compared to what I was long ago, I am
much better now. I still have problems and challenges, but at least I have a romantic partner and I am
outside of the cursed male gender straight jacket that I was a prisoner of a long time ago. Once again I
did have a lot of femaleness in me before I transitioned, but I am still sympathetic to men who are
relegated to the bottom of society because they are not sufficiently masculine enough and high enough
on the social hierarchy, and have effectively been thrown away by an alpha male (and alpha female)
run society who see them as lower than dirt.

What does it mean to be female?

There are several competing definitions for this depending on ideology

0. it's all about chromosomes

1. it's about your brain
2. It's about gamete production.
3. it's about genitals.
4. it's about your gender identity
5. you need to feel like you are a female or have dysphoria
6. it's about having female secondary sex characteristics
7. it's about looking like a female.
8. It's about hormones
9. It's about what social roles you take on.
What actually works in the real world is 6 and 7 and to a lesser extent 8 and 9 if someone look like a
female you let her use female changing rooms or bathrooms. The only sensible way to divide people
into 2 sex/gender categories is to look at peoples social roles, behavior and bodies as a whole rather
than trying to focus on a single individual traits.

1 and 4 and 5 will set you up for social difficulties and there isn't any way to test this scientifically,
anyone can claim to have gender dysphoria or that they identity as female, there isn't even any way to
test whether or not someone has a "female brain" with current technology and the notion of male and
female brains are a misnomer.

0 would result in women with androgen insensitivity syndrome being classified as male, should we
force them to use male bathrooms? These individuals are inconvenient for transphobes which is why
they don't want to talk about them, they just throw them under the bus and accuse people defending
them of "dragging intersex individuals into this".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24313430

3 would encourage people to get harmful genital surgeries such as SRS.

8. Do women stop being women after menopause if they do not start estrogen replacement therapy?

9. has fallen out of fashion due to modern liberal societies trying to move away from these social norms
but that doesn't mean going by social roles wouldn't work in a society that does actually enforce gender
roles in a strict manner, these gender norms will be a product of evolution, both genetic, cultural and
societal evolution where these roles emerges naturally.

Of course we can discuss exactly where to draw the line but so far rather inclusive policies haven't
caused any real-world issues besides some people having a moral panic over a non-issue 69

For normal situations like everyday social interactions the thing that matters is what you look like and
not the actual characteristics of your body. There are however specific scenarios such as sports or
physical fights where things like hormones and muscle strength becomes very important.

2 doesn't work for a lot of people since many people cannot produce gametes in the first place. Many
trans females unfortunately do not have any sperm-production at all due to being on HRT. So, while
there are only 2 types of gametes used for reproduction actual humans are much more complex and
messy.

Biological sex is bimodal, not binary

The fact that sex is bimodal means that some people are more biologically female than others, some
people can get pregnant and give birth while other individuals are incapable of that despite having an
overall feminine body, maybe it will be possible for them in the future with a womb transplant.

HRT will affect all aspects of your body, the transition is biological and very real. Some trans women
have been able to breastfeed, the breasts you get from HRT are real female breasts.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5779241/

If we are going to look at just fertility we end up with 4 categories

0. People that can get pregnant (cannot impregnate).
1. people that can impregnate (cannot get pregnant).
2. Hermaphrodites (so far hasn't been observed when it comes to humans).
3. people who are infertile.

There is no clear way to divide people into these categories though. A more accurate model is to look at
the male and female reproductive potential where you look at how many biological children someone
would have considering their natural breeding potential but this is not particularly relevant today in
social interactions. From a purely darwinian perspective people of category 1 are the most valuable
while people in category 3 are the least valuable, this is not however how people are valued in our
modern society, instead it's mostly about looks and your ability to be productive under capitalism.

If we insist on a strict binary, we will have to draw the line somewhere as we force everyone into two
categories, some people will get fucked over by this and this is impossible to avoid. It's better to look at
each person individually rather than trying to arbitrarily group people together.

I can see where some individuals gravitate towards the gender identity concept where it's about feelings
such as "i feel like a girl" rather than your physical features, i view that as nonsense and it will create
social problems trying to make everyone pretend you are a girl.

How a girldick differ from a male penis

Hormone replacement therapy (HRT) will also affect your penis

1. Making them softer

2. Better smelling
3. You will be able to get multiple orgasms
4. Change in coloration
5. Little to no spontaneous erections
6. Less aroused by visual stimuli
7. Your dick will become a lot more sensitive to touch.
8. You will be able to get full-body orgasms from penile
stimulation.
9. less/no cum (arguably a downside).
Trans women have way better sex than 'chad'
If you want to have some carefree kinky fun, you should look to date other trans girls. They'll be as
horny and fucked-up as you are; just take a look at the various NSFW trans subreddits to get a glimpse.
If you want to get free stuff out of your relationship, look for a chaser, but make sure to find one who
isn't cheapskate. They love to spoil their dick girl princesses. If you want love and stability, look for a
bi guy. Some chasers are also keepers, but only the ones who are out to everyone, including their
families. If they aren't, you will always be a side bitch to them.

Male hormones are responsible in part for the refractory period and making orgasms localized in the
penis. You know how it feels, because you are on them. It feels like a distortion of going to urinate,
then semen comes out. There is no real pleasure to be had from penis stimulation on testosterone.
It is also way better to get fucked in the ass than to fuck someone yourself, you will get multiple full-
body orgasms 0 nothing like the lame unfulfilling orgasm you get from P in V sex.

You will find out that all expectations about how awesome it is to get fucked are true. You can already
try it out via dildo and just ask yourself how much better it will be once you start on female hormones
and get fucked by a real pulsating dick. Imagine finally giving up your remaining masculinity as his
penis is about to enter your body, you will eventually start moaning as he fucks you but estrogen has
made you weaker and you are now powerless to resist. Your prostate will be pounded and you will
experience multiple full-body orgasms.

Some natal women are willing to try sex with trans girls but most likely you will not be close to
sexually compatible and she may not accept you enjoying yourself with other trans women.

Trans females who had surgery had better mental health than cis females
This is self-reported, in this study trans females who hadn't had any surgery had worse mental health
than cis females while trans females who had FFS or SRS scored slightly higher on average.

https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20461468/

This however does not mean their surgeries are beneficial since there were confounding factors
skewing these results. The people who had surgery as a group also had been in treatment for longer and
all of them were taking hormones compared to 66% of the no-surgery group.

For some insane reason they didn't separate out the people who were not on HRT which might explain
why the group who had SRS but not FFS did better than the no-surgery group.
Participants were asked to complete the survey if they identified themselves as a transgender woman.
While there is a potential for individuals to falsify their identity, we believe this likelihood is low. It
should be remembered that the term transgender is an all-encompassing term that includes individuals
in a variety of points in their transition. As a result of recruitment efforts, only individuals who either
received care from an FFS surgeon or clinic or were involved with transgender support groups or
organizations were asked to complete the survey. This is an important point because transgender
women who are early in their transition may not be well connected to support groups or physicians who
specialize in transgender services. The quality of life of these transwomen is not well-represented by
this study. We also did not collect data on the medical co-morbidities of our participants.

About SRS surgeons in Thailand

There are some anecdotes where people claim to have gotten a good SRS result via a Thai clinic, actual
pictures show otherwise of course. The situation with SRS in Thailand is however a big mess with
surgeons replacing each other and it’s unclear if the end result will actually be good for you.

Suporn creates more depth. He guarantees at least 6 inches. Other surgeons come closer to 4 or 5
inches. 2) Suporn makes meshes from the scrotal skin and uses the scrotal meshes to lign '' the
neovagina''. Other surgeons use penile skin primarily to lign the neovagina. 3) Suporn uses penile skin
to create the '' labia ''. Westearn surgeons use scrotal skin to create the '' labia''. 4) Only Suporn and
Chettawut perform the Chonburri method. All other surgeons perform penile inversion. 5) It's called the
Chonburri method because Suporn creates an organ that doesn't exist in a real vagina, in an attempt to
create a homologous structure to the G-spot in real women. This Chonburri organ is a lump of nerves
bundled together that he burries deep down in the neovagina to extend the feeling to the vaginal canal
instead of just '' the clitoris ''. 6) Suporn discourages hair removal prior to surgery. He scrapes the hair
follicles himself. 7) The Suporn method was invented by Suporn himself and presented early 2000s to
the world. 8) The Suporn method is much harder to recover from than the penile inversion method. The
SRS patients have to dilate 3 times daily for 45 minutes during the first year. So almost 3 hours of
dilation a day for at least a year, not included preparation of the instruments,... To dilate. 9) Suporn
makes the prostate accessible through the neovagina during surgery by constructing the vaginal canal
face to face with the prostate. 10) Suporn's prices go up 500$ every 6 months. He currently charges
almost 20 000$. 11) Suporn is soon retiring and has trained an apprentice to take over his clinic. This
new doctor is named Dr Bank. 12) SRS patients claim to be able to get wet with Suporn's technique.
13) Dr Suporn trained Dr Chettawut and they were both trained by Dr Preecha Tiewtranon, the master
of SRS surgery in Thailand. 14) transwomen who go to Thailand get poor aftercare once they left the
country. They can only email these doctors and can't telephonically contact them. They are required to
stay in Thailand for 1 month after their surgery.
The other Thai surgeons are:

1. Dr Thep who charges 2500$ and performs an SRS in 2 hours. First come first serve base. He
gives them a bamboo stick to dilate with and they can go home the same day after the operation
if they want. The biggest complaint with Thep is according to himself : '' hole is not deep
enough ''. Dr Thep performs sex-changes under local anesthesia and he offered a journalist who
wanted to know more about the surgical process to talk with a patient who was under anesthesia
on the operation table at that moment. He offered to pause the anesthesia so that the guy could
talk to the press about his sex change operation.
2. Dr Nara who charges 3500$. Has only pictures with closed legs on his website. Jeesh, i wonder
why lol.
 3. Dr Kuldech who charges the same prices as Nara from his website judging. This Dr Kuldech
had a US patient who almost bled to death on his way back from Thailand to the US because
stitches had dissolved prematurely. This MtF had gender euphoria because the ER team was
impressed by his '' vagina'' and how the ' 'vulva' ' looked so natural.
4. Dr Preecha from PAI. He gives the patients a wax candle to dilate with. He is 86 now and only
supervises surgeries. Dr Burin and Dr Sutin do the surgeries. PAI charges 8000$ for SRS and
this clinic is famous for it's quote that gynos can't tell the difference.
5. Dr Kamol. Charges 10 000$ and has mixed results.
6. Dr Saran charges 8000$ and he butchers western MtF individuals and blocks their email and
Facebook once they complain.
7. Dr Pichet who charges 10 000$ and has created bloody messes by performing SRS surgeries
with a graft from their colon. Many of his patients kept digestive problems and had to wear pads
all the time because their colon graft leaks in their '' vaginas''.
8. Dr Sanguan Kunaporn charges 13000$ for SRS and generally has satisfied MtF clients but most
of his clients are autogynephiles of older age.

Preecha Aesthetic institute

The pictures posted on the website do look good but only 2 pictures are provided so it’s very likely they
are cherry-picked.

http://pai.co.th/srs-penile-skin-inversion/

A trans girl wrote the following regarding her experience with their vaginoplasty. It’s unclear if this is a
common result, did she got lucky? is she lying about it? Delusional?

Being a post-op trans girl comes with a lot of privilege:

• If you pass as a cis woman and you don't have to tell your dates you are a trans woman, they
will treat you like a real woman in the bedroom. Trans women who still have the penis are often
treated like a cum rag, sadly.
• If you can keep your trans status hidden and all your documents are updated, you could marry
an upper-class man and then ask a divorce after a few years and cash out half of his fortune.
• Anal sex comes with a lot of loosening of the colon. That way you will shit your pants easily if
you are an androphilic trans girl who regularly has anal sex. If you have a pussy, you won't have
to deal with that. He could just fuck your pussy.
• You can train for sport competitions and actually be better at it than cis women. Your androgen
receptors are more sensitive to testosterone so even with low doses of endogenous testosterone
produced by the adrenals, you could put on a lot more muscle than a cis woman could. Rachel
McKinnon is winning every competition against cis women. She's post-op MtF. You could
seriously cash out on prizes and scholarships like that. There's nothing cis women could do
about it, since you have a pussy pass.
• As a post-op trans woman you have easier access to cis lesbians too. You are not obligated to
tell them. Contrary to what TERFs tell you cis lesbians wouldn't as easily know that your
neovagina is a neovagina and not a cisgender vagina. I'm post-op after visiting Preecha
Aesthetic Institute and at 9 months i had a cis woman licking my pussy without having a clue.
• If you ever commit a crime you will be placed in a women's prison. You will have an easier life
than if you were put in a man's prison where you could be subjected to rape.
 • People will see you as a real woman more easily. As a pre-op / non-op woman people will to
some extend still see you as a man. SRS if done by a good surgeon can look okay and neat.

Your sex-life as trans female

Maybe being a truecel isn't so bad if you are willing to swallow the pinkpill? you may end up having
way better sex than a top-tier male.

A trans girl wrote the following:

I just had my first orgasm in a while, and I'm a sweaty, sticky

mess. This story is kinda detailed i guess? Sorry if it's not the
normal kind of post for here.

I've been streaming video games a lot lately (mainly Overwatch)

and my Friday and Saturday streams were always the one where i
have someone, usually a follower, control my vibrator while i play.
They turn my vibrator up when I'm doing good, turn it down when
I'm doing bad, etc. Sometimes they'll dirty talk to me while I'm
playing, and it's super hot. It has lead to some very good times.
They all know i'm trans, i get treated 100% like a woman, it's
great!

I told my discord that I'm not going to be streaming for the rest of
the month earlier today, and one of my fans (it's so weird to think i
have fans) sent me a dm telling me about how he enjoyed my streams, and he's going to miss them, and
we chatted for a while today. It started out innocent, but didn't stay there.
Fast forward to an hour or two ago, and i just got home, and i'm pretty horny from our conversation,
and he asks for permission to send me a dick pic. I say yes, he sends the picture, and...holy shit, i didn't
know i was talking to a horse this whole time. Well, he's at least part horse.

Before i continue, i just figured i'd say that i'm comfortable with everything that was said and done.
Some trans women may not like the same wording that was being used on me, but i do, and i was
comfortable with everything he was saying. He was a total gentleman regarding what I was and wasn't
cool with. I don't think anything he said would offend anyone, but I don't some people don't like using
some words to describe their genitals.

So i decide to grab my bluetooth vibrator and pass the controls

over to the guy i've been talking to. He'd never controlled it before.
Where both starting to feel good, and he asks if he can voice call
me. I say yes, he gives me a call, and at this point we're both really
into it. He has a very seductive voice, and he's talking about how
he wants to use my pony tail for leverage while he pounds my ass
and rubs my clit.

We're both breathing heavy, moaning, he's dirty talking some

more. I'm feeling great, but i feel like I've hit a wall and i'm not
getting any closer to orgasm, and he clearly is. Soon he tells me
that he's going to cum.

I tell him to cum for me, and i'm pretty sure i could hear the sound
of his cum hitting his chest. It was so hot. I absolutely love the
feeling of accomplishment i feel while i know i got someone off.
Nothing makes me feel sexier. And i'm totally a sub.

So, he came, and he's breathing heavy, and encouraging me to cum for him too. Telling me what to do,
and what he'd like to do while perfectly controlling my vibrator. But I'm still stuck on that wall and not
getting closer. After a while he says he needs to get ready for work soon. He's still encouraging me
though. I practically beg him to say for a few more minutes.

He lets out the sexiest laugh and says "you're just a little slut aren't you?" Oh, that's definitely working.

"You just want me to bend you over the edge of the couch, lift up your skirt, and fuck you til I'm dry,
wouldn't you?" It's definitely working. I'm right on the edge of orgasm and he turns the vibrator all the
way up as he says "cum for me bitch."

And holy fuck did i cum. I let out a high pitch squeak as my eyes cross, my toes curl up, my legs start
twitching, and i practically fall out of my chair. This was no normal orgasm. I was a twitching panting
mess for a good 45 seconds to a minute and a half. May 5 minutes. I don't know. I've lost all concept of
time. I finally come down from my orgasm. He's turned off the vibe and i'm catching my breath. He
says. "We have to do this again some time." i reply with "yes sir."

"Good girl." Oh, and here comes wave two. I have a little bit of an orgasm after shock. After that, we
said our good bye as he finished getting ready for work.

So, my Friday is going pretty great! How's everyone else's Friday going?
Benefits of transmaxxing as sissy
Males with a humiliation fetish may benefit from going trans. The 'alpha males' sissies desire are
actually rather rare and they tend to be into fucking females, you may need to transition to attract these
males.

Hormone Replacement Therapy will also have additional benefits

0. Orgasms will become far more powerful, you will feel it in your entire body.
1. multiple orgasms just from penile stimulation.
2. reduced sex-drive allowing you to gain control over your sexuality.

If you like dick but also like female aesthetics transwomen are your best option but you may need to go
trans yourself to get access to that dating market (trans escorts is not a good option).
When you are male you are a slave to your sex-drive but the actual sex will not be that good, after you
transition you have sex because it actually feels really good and not because you are driven insane by
testosterone. The reduction in libido from HRT is only temporary 70

A trans girl replied

This is exactly how i feel. Sex is better (hell, i didn’t even have a sex life pre-transition) and i can’t help
but view the reduced libido as a good thing because i feel more in control. Also, i'm just so much
happier with my life all around now because my love of self-feminization is so much more than just a
kink and now i can appreciate the nonsexual side of femininity a lot more. I was already a small, skinny
twink and it made me easier to feminize and i love what a cute tranny i'm becoming. Pre-transition, I
looked pretty much exactly like the virgin character from the Chad
memes. Anyone else here who was a skinny guy with glasses and
short dark hair has probably had that same thought lol. Now my
hair is getting longer, and i've been on HRT for about a year. My
skin is getting softer and smoother, my acne and facial hair has
mostly disappeared, my boobs are growing and my 34A bras are
getting a little tight in the cups, my butt is getting softer and more
full, my thighs and hips are getting a little thicker, and entire body
is just so much softer and more feminized. I love it so much when
my boyfriend caresses me and calls me “soft girl”. I don’t know
how it took me until college to realize I was better off femme.

Transitioning made me a very happy person and i love my life so

much!!!!

I know i don't fit the classic AGP stereotype because i'm young (21 currently), primarily date men, and
I'm shockingly passable. All that being said, i am still very much autogynephilic but that doesn't mean
I'm not also dysphoric and genuinely transgender. I may not have known i was a transsexual until i was
almost 20 years old, but i knew i was a transvestite as young as 14.

I have had a similar experience to the other people in this thread when it comes to seeing the decreased
libido resulting from HRT as more of a blessing than a curse, and living my entire life in girl-mode
24/7 has also gotten me more used to it so i don't get uncontrollably horny all the time, but there is still
some fetishization there. HRT didn't kill my AGP, it just put a damper on it along with all my other, less
powerful sexual interests.

I still feel aroused by my own feminization sometimes and it's hard not to when the estrogen has been
so effective at doing it's job. It makes me horny sometimes when i see myself in the mirror applying
makeup and it's not because i see a hot girl, it's because i know that i am her and she is me. Sometimes
i'll be wearing really cute girly outfits in public and get so turned on by it that i end up wetting my
panties with precum. Sorry if that sounds gross, i just felt it was an important detail to really describe
my situation with AGP.

So overall, how do i feel about my decision to transition? I think it was the best decision i've ever
made! I feel at peace with myself. I am probably the happiest transsexual you will ever meet.
I feel truly content with my life and cherish every day! I love the beautiful young woman i am
blossoming into, and my parents have been very accepting and supportive, they still love me and even
call me their daughter now. I am 16 months into HRT, have had my name legally changed, and almost a
year into living socially as a woman full-time, and most of my dysphoria has disappeared.
No longer do i struggle with anxiety and insomnia as well. A lot of what i feel now is just gender
euphoria, quite the opposite of before. Now, it's usually not inherently sexual to me, but when it is, i'm
not ashamed of it, i still embrace it. It just feels so blissful, so comforting to me that i can live my life
as a very girly, very feminine young lady now. I feel like such a pretty princess and i never want to go
back! I never knew life could be so beautiful. I never knew i could be so beautiful. Everything is
wonderful now!

Data Regarding suicide mortality

The following study on people who started transitioning before July 1, 1997 found that out of 966 MtF
transsexuals No suicides occurred within the first 2 years of hormone treatment, while there were six
suicides after 2–5 years, seven after 5–10 years, and four after more than 10 years of cross-sex
hormone treatment at a mean age of 41.5 years (range 21–73 years).

https://eje.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/eje/164/4/635.xml

The study followed these individuals until 2017 meaning all participants alive by then had been
followed for over 20 years.

From this we get that while suicide mortality was a big issue in the past over time that has become less
and less of an issue which is to be expected with transgenderism becoming more and more socially
accepted.

The following study also found reduction in suicide mortality rate over time

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/acps.13164

3 people out of 8265 died from suicide in 2017 giving a yearly suicide attempt of 36.3 per 100000.
They found that overall suicide mortality has gone down over time, this is the case both for new people
who have just started transition and also people who started transitioning some time ago.

Unfortunately they did not separate people based on whether or not they were on HRT so we cannot
really use the study to properly evaluate whether or not HRT reduces suicide mortality (the study did
not even try to do this).

Formal study on tavistock data

The data above is mostly for older transsexuals, what about young people?

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02287-7

The study confirm that suicidal trans people are more likely to get access to medical treatments.

To calculate the annual suicide rate, the total number of years spent by patients under the clinic’s care is
estimated at about 30,000. This yields an annual suicide rate of 13 per 100,000 (95% confidence
interval: 4–34). Compared to the United Kingdom population of similar age and sexual composition,
the suicide rate for patients at the GIDS was 5.5 times higher.

This is for people seeking care in general and hasn't been adjusted for any confounding factors (such as
mental illness diagnosis prior to seeking care).

Respondents who report suicide attempts are not necessarily indicating an intent to die. One survey of
the American population found that almost half the respondents who reported attempting suicide
subsequently stated that their action was a cry for help and not intended to be fatal (Nock & Kessler,
2006). In two small samples of non-heterosexual youth, half the respondents who initially reported
attempting suicide subsequently clarified that they went no further than imagining or planning it; for
the remainder who did actually attempt suicide, their actions were usually not life-threatening.

So reports of suicide attempts should be interpreted largely as cries for help rather than people actually
wanting to die.

The suicide rate of the GIDS patients is not necessarily indicative of the rate among all adolescents
who identify as transgender. On the one hand, individuals with more serious problems (and their
families) would be particularly motivated to seek referral and more likely to obtain it, and so the
clinical subset would be more prone to suicide. One study suggests that a child who frequently
attempted suicide was more readily referred to the GIDS (Carlile et al., 2021). On the other hand,
young people facing hostility from their families would be less able to seek referral, and this hostility
could make them especially vulnerable to suicide.
Depression comparison
Let's compare to people being treated for depression

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordjournals.aje.a009428

So the suicide mortality of trans people 2017 was similar to the suicide mortality of insured people
treated for depression in united states 1992 to 1994 (any treatment).

Unsurprisingly the people who got treated had higher suicide mortality rate. This is to be expected
given the fact that their treatments don't work any better than placebo 71 72

Transmaxxing works even if you do not improve your personality

When you have a higher SMV than your partner you end up with power over your partner, you always
have the option of leaving for someone more attractive while your partner would end up with someone
less attractive if anyone at all. Your personality is just one of many factors, you can get away with
having an unattractive personality if other traits are desired.

When you potentially offer things of great value (such as a really nice body to have sex with) other
people will be the one needing to improve their personalities and social skills to get you.

A transphobic feminist once wrote:

There was a horrifying post i saw ages ago about a cis lesbian cohabilitating with their LT trans girl
girlfriend and snooped their computer(apologizing profusely for invading the privacy etc, sweet kinda
girl) literally found their not so old incel posts about how they were dating an ugly lesbian but were
looking forward to leveling up to a hotter one. She was horrified and blaming herself i couldn’t believe
what i was reading she was already forgiving ‘her’. If anyone knows the post i'm talking about please
post it. It still keeps me up some nights.
You should ask yourself if you really want to adopt a fake personality in an attempt to attract females,
it's not even clear what the ideal personality is and constantly playing a role you don't want to play is
not good for your mental health. In reality you probably want to change your personality to what most
people view as something worse, become more selfish instead of the other way around.

A lot of males that struggle with dating due to mental illness would be able to get a good dating life via
medical transition, it's a lot easier to make the body more attractive than trying to cure mental illness,
don't expect too much from psychiatry and therapists.

When you are too mentally unfit to function in society and take care of yourself you need to rely on
other people for that. If you are female (cis or trans) you can probably find a male that will take care of
you and of course also fuck you.

Some people need a male to take care of them

Not everyone can be successful and independent, some individuals need to just be subservient to a
master, they exist to be used and give pleasure to other people. This will be the end station for some
individuals that transitioned from male to female, better than homelessness i suppose.

You will be spanked when you have been a bad girl and rewarded when you have been a good girl.

Some people just need to give up their useless pride, the thing with self-respect and making your own
money didn't work out, the only thing you have left now is your body that will be used by someone
else, you better get used to having sex with a male because this is all you will get now.

How to extract resources from men

You need to go through divorce legislation in your country to examine what's required to divorce rape
him 73 prenups written can sometimes be invalidated 74

Make him think you two are a team together, manipulate him into taking actions that will be good for
you later once you dump that loser. Make him put you as an owner to a house he paid for alone with his
money, ask him to pay off any debt you have, manipulate him into giving you expensive gifts.

If you want a free meal you can make him pay for everything. A key part in making this work is to look
as good as you can. Wear a dress to all of your dates, heels, use makeup if it makes you prettier. You
need to emphasize the difference between you and your date; you are a woman and he is a man. Wear
earrings and put on a sexy perfume!

Be a good listener and a good conversationalist. Be interested in them as a person, ask questions, speak
softly and in a girly voice, laugh softly, and don't interrupt them. You need to be fun to be around with
so that they think that they won't ever think of making you pay the bill because they had a bad time.
Even if you feel like the connection isn't there, still be nice to them and treat them well.

If the man you're going out with asks you to split the bill simply tell him that you'll take care of the bill
the next time you go out since you prefer taking turns since that's more romantic. Don't appear bitter.

Smile as you say this and act feminine! Be sweet, confident, and show him that you desire him non-
verbally. 99% of men won't insist that you pay the bill during that time. Of course, there won't be
another date. Delete him from the dating app and block his number. You don't need to say anything
more to them.
Don't feel guilty about blocking a cheap man. Just remember that men don't feel guilty about using
women and playing with their emotions. It's only fair that we reserve the right to block cheap men who
won't add value to our lives.

One issue with relying on men for resources is that this may decentivize you from taking action that
will allow you to make money in other ways that don't depend on your fading attractiveness, this is
similar to the government welfare trap where you used to getting easy money and thus don't take steps
to improve your life long term.

Generally males that are useful when it comes to extracting resources are not actually men you should
consider as a sexual partner, thus you may want to use other males for sex/reproduction.

By successfully extracting resources for men you will end up with more freedom when it comes to
selecting a sexual partner while still being able to properly support all your children financially, the
well-being of your children is more important than what's currently viewed as moral by society.

Sex work
Why work a boring job when you can get paid to be sexually humiliated in many ways?

Sex work allows you to turn a humiliation fetish into a profession. While it is humiliating to participate
in porn or prostitution other forms of works are more disgusting and pays far less.

The advantage with the clear honest exchange is that it gives the male far more power over her via his
money, she will have to participate in his sick perversions or she will not get any money, the more
money he offers the harder it will be for her to resist.

Long-term relationships are often just glorified prostitution where the female gets resources in
exchange for sex, sex that she may still enjoy. Generally prostitution goes against social norms which is
why the nature of the exchange is hidden behind marriage sermons and romance bullshit.

Sex work that involves you physically meeting other individuals do however come with risks, in
addition to the possibility of being harmed due to violence you also risk getting infected with Sexually
Transmitted Diseases. The risks of sex work can be minimized by sticking to online works (cam-sex) or
by instead becoming a sugar baby for a male you have verified are safe.

Another issue with sex-work is that often it’s illegal to outright buy sex making it more difficult to find
clients, in some countries you are not even legally allowed to directly sell sex. If you have real potential
you may benefit from being irrationally hostile to selling your body.

How to attract chad

What's true when interacting with normal males stops being true when you try to attract elite males in
terms of attractiveness, these males have other options and thus you need to treat them well or they will
go for someone else. Yes you should probably fake your personality, most males cannot tell.

Wear sexy outfits in public and take good photos of yourself to use for online dating. Your strategy
should be to hook him by being submissive and letting him use you as a toy, he is the one having power
over you by virtue of just being really attractive, it doesn't matter that you don't need his money.

Figure out what he is into and let him get that.

Do not expect or demand that he provide resources to you, if you need money that badly you should
focus on other males that lack better options.

The only reason not to let a chad fuck you when you are androphilic is the STI risk, anal sex is the most
risky form of sex and it's also a bit messy, he needs to be tested regularly if he is also having sex with
other girls. You can still please him by giving him a handjob. You might also want to give him some
gifts, not before getting his BWC of course.

As you become more attractive by taking hormones and having the right surgeries you will be able to
attract males of higher quality. You might think you will never attract the male of your dreams but one
year later you might have his dick in your ass.

Transmaxxing success stories

“When I was an egg the envy got so bad that I started hating women just on principle ‘Like why should
they be pretty and cute and I am stuck in hell!’. It caused me to troll women online and act like an
MGTOW/Incel/Nice Guy/POS.” Source / Archive

“If I hadn’t of come out and transitioned I would have likely become the exact epitome of the kind of
person that I hate the most right now. I was a straight white neckbeardy 'Why aren’t there straight/white
pride parades’ misogynist douchebag. If I hadn’t of come out I’d likely have been the type of guy to
bitch about being an incel and *shudders*” Source / Archive

“I’m a literal Ex-Nazi Trans Female so I can relate.” Source / Archive

“Solidarity comrade. Trust me, I used to be a Nazi even as I was discovering I was trans” Source /
Archive

“I’ve seen a lot of people go from fascist mra to trans girl on their journeys” Source / Archive

“I wonder what percentage of incels are iron-shelled eggs” Source / Archive

“I wasn't a brony. Back then, I was closer to just your run-of-the-mill incel.” Source / Archive

“Former incel, current happy trans girl.” Archive

“A huge amount of the reason I was an incel was because I was a closeted trans girl.” Archive

“Me in high school. Also was pretty much a nazi. Hated the world. Etc. Now I am a very cheerful and
loving trans girl uwu” Source / Archive

“Seems like anyone who went to 4chan either grows up to be trans or a white supremacist and there’s
zero middle ground.” Source / Archive

“i was a fash-adjascent man in my early 20s. 5 years later i’m an anarcho-communist enby.” Source /
Archive

“Big mood. 4 years ago I was an edgy, right-wing, anti-SJW teen who was borderline MGTOW. Now
I’m a gay catgirl dating an anarchist transgirl.” Source / Archive
“I’m really obsessed with incels. So many of them are actually repressed trans women it’s impressive.”
Source / Archive

“Oh hey same. I used to run in neckbeard 4chan incel circles. Now my name is Rebecca and I’m a girl.
When did that happen?” Source / Archive

“Oh shit, I just realized I went through a Neo-Nazi phase.” Source / Archive

“I was more an incel-ish transphobe than anything. Looking back at my past kinda disgusts me, but
now I’m good with myself. Honestly makes me wonder how many incels are in trans denial.” Source /
Archive

“Honestly I think that most incels are transgenders in denial. I never came across a group of men who
are so jealous and envious of women. All they ever do is talk about how women are lucky and
fortunate. Also most have body dysphoria and hate how they look. If that isn’t an egg about to crack
then I don’t know what is.” Source / Archive

“the pipeline from nazi to commie trans girl is real” Source / Archive

“I honestly don’t know how I escaped my Nazi phase. Anyone with half of a brain would’ve thought I
was past the point of no return, but clearly I wasn’t since I escaped.” Source / Archive

“Former incel here, looking for help” Archive

“As the old saying goes: 30% of TERFs are closeted trans men and 30% of incels are closeted trans
women.” Source / Archive

“went from browing /pol/ for 2 years then /lgbt/ for a while before just deciding to transition. Shits
possible man, but personally I think I was just browsing to help repress any sort of AGP related
feelings. I told myself I shouldn’t transition because I had to pass on my white genes lol!” Source /
Archive

“tfw i went from right wing incel to communist

catgirl in the matter of just about a year” Archive

“Can I really do Transmaxxing?” Source / Archive

“Trannymaxxing to get lesbians is my idea and I

hope it spreads.” Archive

“amab questioning thoughts: 'am I really trans, or

am I just a particularly creative incel?’” Source /
Archive

“I was a borderline ultra manipulative incel before I first realized I’m trans.” Source / Archive

“I’ve physically harmed people just like us before I cracked” Source / Archive

“i was a raging misogynist for years.” Source / Archive

Not only did transitioning save my life, it got me out of inceldom
I'm so so so thankful i was blessed with gender dysphoria. When i was living as a man, i was basically
hopeless. I had horrible anxiety, i was ugly, i had only one relationship under my belt that lasted 3
months, and we never even had sex, we only kissed before she dumped me.

I started transitioning 8 months ago taking hormones and getting laser hair removal. Since then, i've
had 5 sexual encounters with 3 different women. Know why? Because i'm a cute girl and not an ugly
"man". They were all women who were out of my league when i was living as male, but women these
days are super into me.

In short, gender dysphoria saved me. It gave me a life-or-death need to transition, and i was pleasantly
surprised to see that being a girl made me more desirable to women.

I'm not a woman trapped in a man's body. I'm just a man with bad genetics and childhood
traumas
I just hate being a guy, hated myself, and decided to gender
transition as soon as i realized it was an option. Saw it as an
escape from myself.

Didn't 'always know' and didn't play dress up as a kid nor had
especially feminine interests. Sure i hate sports and being
competitive but that's just because i'm weak and passive. Prior
to transition i was mostly into escapism fantasy because life
sucked and i wish i wasn't born. This is just another
distraction and escapism. Planned to check out early then
transitioned instead. Still here and in the best shape of my life.
Transition has caused me to take much better care of my body,
diet, exercise, and improved my social life. Has been a total
win going from a 2/10 male to 4/10 trans woman.

I don't recommend transition to anyone if they can make their life as a guy work but if your life is total
shit and you think you might be happier with existing it's something to consider.

Never wore or had any women's clothing until my early 30s. When i was in high school i dreamed
about having a girlfriend but never dated nor masturbated. In my 20s i started to worry it wouldn't 'just
happen' so i tried to meet women and date without much success. Dated women and i thought they
were attractive but i didn't want to have sex, only cuddle. Had sex a few times in my late 20s but didn't
enjoy it and didn't orgasm. I also never had an orgasm from masturbating until my late 20s when i
finally figured out how to. Unsure why. My penis always felt sort of numb, disconnected, and scared
me a little so i didn't play with it. After all the trouble dating and with sex i thought I'd be single
forever. Dating and sex wasn't any fun, just stressful and gross even tho i felt lonely and wanted a
relationship. Later on i discover transgenderism and start crossdressing.

Like how i looked a lot, feel much better about myself and appearance. Decided i hated being a guy
and liked the 'woman' me more so i transitioned. Didn't think much about dating guys because that was
gay and i grew up with homophobic Jehovah witness parents and i just wanted to have a normal hetero
relationship. Despite trying and failing to find a girl friend/wife in all my 20s i found a boyfriend nearly
effortlessly in my early 30s living as a woman. Dating and sex is fun and enjoyable.
I pass fairly well and never get hassled or
misgendered in public. Have trouble thinking of
myself as 'gay' being a male with a male, i like
having a boyfriend and getting fucked by him but i
only see myself as a woman with a man? Is that the
AGP? I feel some attraction to women but i don't
want to have sex with them, i just admire them and
want to be more like them?

All the trans people i meet talk about knowing from a

young age and dressing up and what not. I had no
idea, stumbled into it by accident well into adulthood
and decided i hated the guy thing and wanted to be a
woman. Anyone relate? I feel like such a weirdo even
within a tiny fringe community.

I love being a cute girl

It was like going from watching a movie without
colors and sound to watch a 4K movie with nice
audio. I love how orgasms feel now when i am a girl,
i didn't think sex would be this good.

I went from being depressed and taking drugs to now only taking estrogen and cypro. I cannot wait to
up my dosage.

I love wearing panties and lingerie, i am so much happier now when i can be myself and use the
clothing i love.

I was always meant to be a girl, this is why everything felt wrong and nothing really worked out in the
past, my brain was meant for female hormones. I didn't realize how much testosterone made me suffer
until i finally switched to correct hormones.

I have wanted a female body for a long time and now i am making that dream reality.

I didn't feel like i was a girl until i was on estrogen

Now when i think back i remember wanting to be a girl
a long time but i never really felt like i already was one,
like i wasn't really transgender, i though it was just a
fetish or that i was doing it to get a girlfriend.

Once i have started estrogen i started to feel differently

and i started to view my self as a girl, it wasn't really
that my body changed. I think it was the testosterone
that messed up my brain, once i had the right hormones
things because clearer and i started to understand that i
had been a girl trapped in a male body all along.

I used to just imagine being a girl but i discarded it as just a fetish even when it was other stuff like
using a girl character in game, i now see how stupid that was, i was in denial for a very long time.
Getting a girlfriend was nice but the main benefit was feeling better mentally, i was able to stop taking
antidepressants. I also found a girlfriend and now we have been together for 7 months, we have been
transitioning together and it has been amazing. I love how my body is changing, each day i become
more like my true self.

I used to have trouble socializing (got diagnosed with autism) but now that's a lot easier, i think it's
because i am more comfortable with my body and no longer depressed.

Testosterone really confused me, it changed me into something else than the real me, i was always
meant to be a girl.

Leslie’s story
Although Leslie was born male, she began to try
to pass as a female, initially by tucking, using a
gaff (device that hides the mooseknuckle),
cleavage enhancement, hip and buttock padding,
crossdressing and using breast prostheses; later
by going through a physical transition.

Leslie felt that her penis and balls were useless

body parts that served no purpose. The
pointlessness of her male genitalia is what
triggered gender dysphoria in her. Leslie did this
because she struggled to gain the attention of
women.

She believed it wouldn't be too difficult to change gender identity as she already had a small frame, and
had minimal secondary sexual characteristics. She specifically said that being male "sucked" because
of the prolonged sexlessness. She also said that if she had not altered his/her gender identity, the trauma
of inceldom was so bad she considered going to Belgium or Switzerland as these two countries are
considered the easiest places for entering a "mercy killing" or "suicide tourism" arrangement. In
Leslie's words, the research they had done suggested both countries were considered the "euthanasia
capitals" of the western world. Transitioning made Leslie change her mind.

She began to understand why prostitution is usually a 1-way street of men buying sex from women; not
the other way around. It's because of the mismatch in demand, Leslie posited. Becoming a woman she
learned first-hand that the ease of access to sex was as different as night and day between men and
women. Women are stupendously privileged in this regard as Leslie soon found out. Leslie decided to
transition because she wanted to experience this female-specific privilege for herself. After changing
gender identity, she had no difficulties attracting partners of either sex. Leslie was no longer lonely.

She specifically said, and emphasized, that she would have never transitioned had it not been for the
inexhaustibility of male inceldom. Leslie felt that some her earlier traits as a male, which made her
repulsive or off-putting to potential suitors, such as shyness and awkwardness, suddenly were seen as
tenable traits in the dating scene. Leslie's transition according to her e-mail has been successful and she
now happily lives as an allosexual sex-having passing transwoman. According to Leslie, from her
tweens, to her teens and during early adulthood she was completely a cisgender man. Only once Lesli
reached their tricenarian years did they begin doubting the viability of their gender with regards to
prolonged loneliness, thus subsequently decided that transitioning to a woman was the right choice.
19 MtoF - Best choice I've made in my life
So, I was a not getting any love as a boy, not the smartest, not the best at sports or very masculine.

Couldn't find anyone male or female to look at me twice.

It's my first year at university and I've been presenting female, started hormones May last year,
The life I live now is worth the transition, my sex life is fantastic with both guys and girls, also my

frame lends itself for femme dress.

I feel sexy, wanted and complete.

What are you waiting for?

Avatarmaxxing vs dragmaxxing vs transmaxxing

In the interview with sandman we did touch on the concept of dragmaxxing where you present as a
female without going through HRT or surgeries.

The appeal with crossdressing is the ability to get a more feminine appearence without having pursue
medical treatments. This however is a rather limited option in part because passing without HRT will
become increasingly difficult as you get older.

Examples of successful dragmaxxers ru paul and conchita wurst

As you get older more and more effort will be required to pass or even come close to passing without
HRT. This is fine for the purpose of doing some temporary entertainment but it's not really viable as a
24/7 solution, it's for people who still want to present male most of the time and only dress up as a girl
for special occations.

Often crossdressers are pretty much clowns who are there to entertain others and for that purpose
passing isn't needed.

Another issue with crossdressing is lack of real breasts resulting in you not being able to do a more
revealing female presentation, you end up having to hide your lack of real breasts imiting your clothing
options.

Using a female avatar for digital interactions

A lot of social interactions today take place online allowing people to use an avatar that is very
different from your real body. This allows you to in virtual spaces escape the constraints of biology.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_FiUhYe9Dk

Crossdressing likely to lose popularity?

The people who actually want to be feminine are likely to go for actual HRT (and not merely using
makeup and female clothing) while people who just want to appear female to others in limited social
interactions are likely to just resort to using female avatars, that doesn't leave much in between for
crossdressing. Avatarmaxxing has the advantage of allowing you to quickly switch to a female
presentation instead of having to spent hours doing makeup.
F1nn5ter and the femboy fantasy
There are several things that make the whole femboy option appealing to people. One bid appeal is the
ability to pass without taking female hormones or undergoing any surgeries, this is similar to how
people want to build nice muscles without resorting to anabolic androgenic steroids.

In the case of passing without HRT that is actually a real possibility for many young people but it will
not last and what are people going to do after that, will they give up on the whole femininity thing or
will they take more drastic actions to instead become even more feminine?

For f1nn5ter the answer was to take HRT 75 he ended up opting for the "gender-fluid" label. This was
in part because he actually liked having a feminine presentation and when he tried HRT he ended up
liking it. F1nn5ter is of course not the only femboy who disclosed having started HRT 76

We can also expect many femboy content creators to take HRT without even telling their audience
about it assuming they are not going to find out. Some will outright lie will others will simply avoid the
question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKzropHAvq4

Transmaxxing vs same effort to improve yourself as a male

One of the more convincing arguments against transmaxxing is "with that effort you can do better
improving yourself as a male" but is that actually true?

How difficult a transition varies a lot between different people and their environments. Some areas are
highly transphobic while others are rather accepting. Furthermore how easy it is to pass as a female
depend on several factors with age and genetics being particularly important.

Early in life males can often pass just fine without even starting HRT. That however will not last, males
become more masculine over time and this include changes to bones that are difficult to impossible to
reverse.

For a while even after you cannot just pass with crossdressing and makeup it will still be possible to
pass with HRT since that will feminize the face and body as a whole. HRT will also effectively stop
further masculinization if the estrogen dosage is high enough.
But unfortunately for many people HRT will not be enough and then facial surgery comes into play. It's
only at this point where the argument "transition is to hard to be worth it" holds much merit unless you
are stuck in a place that is highly transphobic. And of course there are plenty of people to fail to pass
even after FFS but these people typically these people transition because they had very significant
dysphoria/AGP driving them to pursue a transition where they had little to no chance of passing. Of
course then you will have a rough time but i do understand why some people pursue that path, that
however does not mean that transition will difficult like that for everyone.

Also i have noticed that if you look up typical FFS results there will not actually be any significant
difference anyway, often the changes from FFS are less than the changes given just from hormone
replacement therapy (to the point where HRT might do more good even during the recovery period
after surgery).

https://vintologi.com/threads/facial-feminization-surgery.1413/

One appeal i see with transmaxxing is that it's relatively straight forward unlike self improvement as a
male that where a lot of people offering various 'solutions' are basically trying to scam you. The things
that actually work for some males are typically unreliable, there is no escaping that rat-race without
actually changing your sex.

77 78 79 80

"just go to the gym"

It's very common for gym to make it very hard to cancel the subscription for the membership often
resulting in people getting milked for years while they don't even go to the gym in the first place. If you
actually want to improve your body what you should do instead is to find a diet that works well for
you, something that tastes nice while also giving your body the nutrients it needs. If you want to build
muscles it's better to simply train at home, you can buy weights yourself without paying too much
money, no need to go to some gym.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaBK-XpNAwM

That however is not an alternative to medical transition, it's something you should do regardless of
whether or not you are pursuing a medical transition.

"You can have plastic surgery to improve your looks as a male"

Most people will not actually benefit from plastic surgery and many will end up looking worse
afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXM8mn5kjpM

I think one important part of being a male is figuring out for yourself what path you should take, you
will not have much success trying to find some manual for it.

If there is something simple that works more and more males will start doing it to the point where it
stops being simple like that, it might instead become something that's basically mandatory. Males
improving themselves will allow females to raise their standards, it's unlikely to decrease the total
number of incels. It's not really in your interest as a male to point male strangers towards solutions that
actually works.
Why you dislike the Tigerqueen: Narcissistic, Histrionic, Machiavellian Women; Why they
evolved, their place in modern society, and ways to mitigate their bullshit.
My mother is like this, so noticing it in Ky was easy. It's similar to the female version of the high
functioning sociopath, with more of a focus/obsession with their attractiveness and sexuality and more
of a tendency for manipulation, emotional/psychological abuse, and sexual deviancy. Their sexuality is
turned inward, i.e. who wants them determines their self-worth. These are not stable psychopaths.
These are reactive psychopaths without the build to release their rage via physical violence sprees, so
they let it out by doing emotional/financial damage, betrayal, etc. It's not that they don't love, it's that
doing bad things is dopaminergically rewarding to them. I know because i inherited this spectrum from
my mother, but was born a boy.

At 24 i transitioned into an mtf and behaved like this for ten years before detransitioning ten years later,
since i'd only done it to take advantage of people/circumstances/the political climate. I fucked a lot of
blondes with blue streaks in their hair in my disguise that decade. Estrogen + a psychopathic brain = a
hell of a drug. It pulls you under its spell. Many of you are with women like this.

They evolved in hyper masculine dominated cultures, think "machismo" to contend with the men that
dominated such cultures. Think of these traits like growing spikes for defense.

In modern society, they don't need their full spike armor to contend with soft men, but the spikes aren't
removable, so they are a curse upon such men.

How to tame such a bitch: You need to dance with the one that brung em. Become a "machista", kinda
like a macho man, just more of dick, bastard, asshole, devil may care, and dick slinging. A good
example: it is acceptable for men to have as many mistresses as they wish, and wife cannot have
anyone else but the husband. She is expected to shut the fuck up about the mistresses and let it happen,
same with Italian mob wives. The best way is actually to make them your slave (lifestyle bdsm not
plantation) and put them on a mission of "feed me bitches". Essentially using them like a toilet that you
can outsource your women hunting to. Girls like that LOVE to total power inversion, because it is what
their genes are primed for. It took a lot of historical trauma methylating their ancestor's epigenome to
make them just that way.

It may be hard to believe, but not all psychopaths suffer for it. I have a 24 year old white mistress and a
22 years old asian fiancee, both beautiful girls. I’m retired at 38 living purely off my investments. I
inherited nothing and left the home at 18. I made my money as a hooker while a transgirl, then as a
construction worker as guy. I own a home i took down to the studs and renovated myself. My mom was
indeed a narcissistic, self serving psychopath, but my father was a kind hearted genius, and I came out
smart, self serving, and ruthless. I don’t have any revenge fantasies against women. I love women. I
just understand them, having been one myself for a decade. Cheers.

Straight men are the primary consumers of trans porn. Gay men prefer their penises on men, not people
that look like attractive women. Several things contribute to why straight men are attracted to
transwomen. One is simply the taboo aspect, anything that is taboo has the potential to become a turn
on. Their is the risk aspect. If they are discovered with a transwoman, their reputations could get
ruined, they could get ridiculed, etc, and the act of risking big can be a turn on in itself. Finally,
transwomen cannot fake having an orgasm or enjoying themselves as simply as women can. This visual
cue, of a transwoman's erect penis while one penetrates her, or here clear ejaculate, are clear signs that
she is enjoying what you are doing, whereas with a genetic woman there might always be that doubt in
the back of one's mind that she is just faking very well.
It is possible to get very wealthy in porn, but nobody in transporn has ascended to the heights of the
wealthiest pornstars like jenna jameson or peter north (YET!)

Why detransitioning when born male often work out just fine
Unless you have had irreversible surgery you are likely to be just fine if you later decide to instead live
as a male. Fertility might comeback if you started after puberty and bones will not be changed after 25.

You might for example find out that you do not like the mental changes that come with HRT and then
you might be better off just living as a male. You are likely to find out if estrogen has mental effects
you don't like before you even had any breast growth or reproductive impact.

Breast growth from HRT can be removed via surgery but that itself will be irreversible and likely leave
permanent scarring potentially making it seem like you are FtM rather than MtFtM.

Of course most likely the female hormones will make you likely to want further feminization, if you
weren't uncomfortable with having male physical traits before you might become so after your brain
has become feminized so most people will just keep living as a female until they die.

Stereotypical masculinity = being dumb

If you look at masculine stereotypes it's basically being dumb such as dying for vladimir putin in
Ukraine. This is not something that's innate male, it's something societies instill in males to make them
act against their self-interest (such as dying in a war for zero benefits to people close to you).

Regardless of your sex/gender you should use your own brain. You should admire the smart Russian
soldiers who abandoned their tanks in Ukraine knowing that the russian regime no longer could reach
them once they were there 81

Generally when it comes to gender roles it's fine to go along with it as long as it doesn't cause serious
harm but if people try to use a gender role to make you do something really dumb you have to push
back against that.

For males detrimental gender roles are often state-enforced, this illustrate that dying in some war might
not actually be something that comes naturally to males in the first place, it's something males have to
be forced/indoctrinated into. Governments have historically acted very brutally against males unwilling
to fight in dumb wars (often outright executing them).

Both Trump and Biden got elected as president even though they dodged the draft. This illustrates how
society will not actually punish you for being smart when it comes to these things, you can still get
elected to the most powerful position in America if not the world.

Nationalism
Of course nationalist societies will often outperform societies that are not nationalistic, this creates an
evolutionary pressure on societies towards self-preservation even if it isn't to the benefit of the people.

Logically even defending a good government will not benefit you personally typically, instead people
are expected to defend their country out of altruism. The current Ukrainian government isn't even
particularly great, it's probably better than the russian government but that doesn't make it worth it
risking your life when it isn't likely to change the outcome of the war in the first place.
Ukraine banned males between 18 and 60 to leave the country when their country got invaded by
russia. Very few people with male legal sex were given permission to leave.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3ng45/males-banned-from-leaving-ukraine

The Ukrainians also stopped people who looked to masculine from leaving, even people with a female
legal sex were often barred from leaving. In addition the Ukrainian government earlier made it very
difficult to change your legal sex in the first place thus screwing over most trans people 82 83

Of course you could have left before this war started and be just fine but many Ukrainians were naive
and engaged in wishful thinking and this even included their president Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Being
smart was more important than being female in this case (it was pretty obvious they would get invaded).

Obviously you do not want to die or get hurt in some war, you should just flee, your life is more
important than the expected benefit you would provide as a low-level soldier. Don't let nationalism
cloud your judgment.

It's very likely that most people killed/maimed/tortured in this war will be male. This makes it better to
be female if you are Ukrainian but what about other countries?

Having many males die is not really good for females since it reduces their mating options. That
however does not mean that it will be easier for males to date since females are likely to resort to
polygamous dating rather that settling for males they are not attracted to or remaining single.

Of course this war wouldn't have happened if Ukraine hadn't been dumb enough to give up their
nuclear weapons in exchange for empty security guarantees.

Most males are becoming obsolete

With the technological advancement the majority of males are becoming increasingly redundant often
not even useful as cannon fodder in wars. Their Bodies are no longer needed for physical work and
males as a group do not have any major mental advantages over females. Currently males are still often
valuable for society in making the state stronger in terms of its ability to wage war but once a single
government have gained control over the entire planet most males will no longer be needed 84

Reproduction
Most males are genetically ill-suited for reproduction and 1% of the male population is enough to
impregnate all females that want kids 85 The fact that most males reproduce today is due to culture and
this end up ruining upcoming generations genetically and results in bad males becoming legal parents
giving them authority over children they shouldn't have authority over.

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

It may seem unfair to have a system where bad males are being rejected from parenthood while females
unsuitable for motherhood are easily able to get pregnant even but in these cases having her reproduce
with a bad male would be even worse. Already a big portion of the male population is being rejected.

https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-
children/1401047
Work
Most males do not do work that cannot be done by females, there are a few areas where males are
difficult to replace but less than 5% of the male population is needed to do these jobs. Why pay a male
to do a job when you can have a machine do the job cheaper and better?

A lot of males today are not even net tax-payers, they end up using more resources from the
government than they provide in taxes. Many males find themselves alone without any real purpose in
life, they just exist and when they die nobody will miss them.

Sex
Males have far higher sex drive than females partly due to higher testosterone, if males on average
want sex once per day while females want it once per week 85% of males would be obsolete when it
comes to sex if it wasn't for the monogamy norm (which may be collapsing as i write this).

The solution
There are a number of options, many of these do not properly replace the male need for a female and
none of them allow for reproduction. From best to worst:

1. medical transition from male to female

2. porn, masturbation, sex toys.
3. escorts
4. going gay
5. zoophilia
6. raping females
7. suicide

Options 2, 3 and 6 do not offer any real validation, not sure about 4 and 5. Escorts are expensive and in
many areas buying sex isn't legal and you may put yourself in legal danger by using these services.
Most males prefer human females and thus 4 and 5 are not a good option for most people, zoophilia is
also against the law in a lot of countries.

If we do not want males to go for 4 to 7 we should encourage option 1 to 3, not doing so would be
highly irrational. For young males unwilling to have children transition is often a better option than
trying to spend many years trying to improve their situation, transmaxxing is simply a more reliable
option for getting great sex, new friends and social status.

The biggest issue with solution 1 is that it stops being a good option as you get older, it's great when
you are young (12 to 19 mostly) but at 30 it will be very difficult to ever pass and you may not become
that attractive as a trans woman. Usually when it's clear to someone he has utterly failed as a male it's
way to late to actually have a successful transition.

Involuntary Celibacy
Incel is/was short for "involuntary celibate" but it's not clear when it's "involuntary" and what counts as
"celibacy" ? What if you hire an escort?

The word "incel" is also very problematic since a lot of self-identified incels have very toxic views. We
are still willing to help individuals who hold these problematic beliefs, it is possible that many of them
would change their personalities for the better after correcting their hormones (higher E, lower T).
In a lot of cases males that are unsuccessful sexually have not yet developed toxic views associated
with incels and then if they transition in time they will remain nice people instead of becoming hateful.

You don't need to be a kissless virgin to benefit from medical transition, how functional your sex-life is
as a male is just one of the factors to consider.

0. How was the quality of the sex you got?

1. How much sex do you want?
2. How much sex did you actually get?
3. How much did the sex cost you? (direct and indirect expenses).

Significant improvement from plastic surgery is rare when it's one on males and it will not fix any of
the mental issues incels often suffer from, there is no surgery for the brain.

Dysfunctional sex life can have other origins than simply being unable to attract a partner you like for
sex, some people find out that they cannot properly enjoy the sex when they are male.

Sexual reasons to transition are valid

Sex is a basic human need and if you cannot have a good sex life because you are male you need to
consider medical transition as a solution. Not being sexually satisfied is bad for your mental health, it's
even bad for your physical health.

https://www.healthline.com/health/healthy-sex-health-benefits

You not being sexually satisfied as a male can be due to several factors
0. Failure to attract females (cis/trans)
1. testosterone ruining your orgasms (only a single weak orgasm from penile stimulation).
2. you not properly enjoying sex when your body look like a disgusting male.

If you get aroused by the thought or image of yourself as a female you should absolutely consider
transition just for sexual reasons even if you don't have any other form of gender dysphoria.

Why suffer as a male when you can be a cute girl?

Are people transitioning due to mental illness?

First we need to recognize that a diagnosis with a mental disorder is not evidence of anything being
wrong with the brain, the disorders outlined in dsm-5 are not scientific and no objective test is done
prior to giving a diagnosis.

http://cepuk.org/unrecognised-facts/diagnostic-system-lacks-validity/

Because of that we cannot blame gender dysphoria on things like “autism” when there isn’t any
objective test to determine if someone actually suffers from autism and even if we would discover a
such test (which cannot exist since the disorder itself isn’t valid as used now) it would be difficult to
establish a causal relationship.

People who are diagnosed with narcissism are more likely to transition

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/
Being cis can be a mental illness
Being unwilling to transition even though it would be beneficial for you is a mental illness since it
significantly affect your life in a negative manner.

It's not clear why so many people are so unwilling to transition even though they would clearly benefit
from it. One explanation for this is people having their gender as an important part of their identity and
then changing your sex becomes almost unthinkable.

The degeneracy factor

Gay males are already degenerate in the sense that they are not
really into reproductive sex. This degeneracy factor explains why
they are more likely to transition, it's not that they have more
gender issues than the average male (the opposite is probably true).

If you are rejected constantly by straight guys because you are

male that may cause body dysphoria and there is no denying that
many of these guys would be willing to have sex with you if you
actually transitioned.

If they transition early their dating pool will widen and increase in
attractiveness due to the female dating advantage and the fact that
the gay male dating pool is more limited in numbers.

One risk is "autoandrophilia", if they are directly attracted to men they might prefer having a male
body, it's likely that these individuals mostly do not transition in the first place. Autoandrophilia could
be a reason for why many gay males with gender issues desist at puberty, they start finding male bodies
(including their own) sexually attractive.

If you have internalized homophobia you might feel like it's wrong for you to have sex with men when
you are a male yourself.

It's also likely that many gay males who want to transition lie about having gender dysphoria to be
viewed as valid, they might also lie to themselves.

If a gay male is less attractive he might view him not finding himself attractive as dysphoria and thus
transition, once female she will get a lot of male attention and validation and thus feel better about her
body.

Failed heterosexual males often have no real chance of reproduction and this will make it more prone
to transitioning since they are about to die childless anyway. If you instead have a wife and want to
have children you might instead repress despite severe gender dysphoria.

If you have a wife you are happy with you might feel like it’s wrong for you to transition and ruin a
relationship (if it’s working). Even if your wife claim to support your transition she might still end up
leaving you if you do because she is simply not attracted to females.

If you instead are a loser male with no real purpose in life there isn’t any wife that would leave if you
decide to become a girl and you might not have any friends to lose either. Thus we can expect that
people are less likely to repress when their lives are really bad as males.
How to do Hormone Replacement therapy
First off you need to raise your estrogen levels, there are several options for this (0 to 5). A high
estradiol dosage will by itself suppress testosterone down to within the normal female range. Many
people do however start on lower dosage resulting in high testosterone unless anti-androgen is used.

You do not need official prescription to start on hormones in most countries, typically it's easy and safe
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0. Estradiol injections (best option)

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Estradiol alone can suppress testosterone. By getting an estradiol level of around 200 pg/dl you will
also get the testosterone level to the normal female range, no need for any anti-androgen.
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2. Oral Estradiol (take daily)

https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-165-estrofem-1mg-tablets.aspx

3. Ethinyl-estradiol (take daily, much higher blood-clotting risk).

https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-962-diane-35-21s.aspx

60μg/day is enough to alone suppress testosterone enough to achieve chemical castration.

Anti-androgens
If your testosterone is high you might benefit from an anti-androgen, this however should only be a
temporary solution since not having enough sex-hormones (estrogen+testosterone) will be bad for your
health and this will be worse if it is prolonged and severe. There are cheap and effective options such as
"cyproterone Acatate" (up to 12.5mg/day) and bicalutamide (up to 50mg/day).
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-131-siterone-tablets-50mg.aspx
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-98-calutide-50.aspx
https://www.4nrx.md/mens-health/calutide-bicalutamide.html

"Goserelin Acetate" (lupron, Zoladex) and Enzalutamide is expensive and difficult to get if you do not
have an official prescription. It's unclear if those are safe even when combined with estradiol.

There are also anti-androgens with more limited effect such as finasteride and dutasteride but it's not
clear if using any of these can be a good idea, spironolactone should be avoided in any case 86 87
Month Valerate Cypionate Enanthate undecylate If you start on pills Patches 24/7 usage
Injection Injection Injection Injection Injection daily Daily oralDaily The sum in μg/day below for all
the patches used depending on the
every Every 5 every 7 every 10 every 14 Ethinyl Estradiol oral number of days each patch is used
Valerate Estradiol
3.5 days days days days days Estradiol 7 days 10 days 14 days
0 1.2 mg 1.7 mg 2.4 mg 3.5 mg 5 mg 70/3 μg 8 mg 6 mg 175 200 225
1 1.3 mg 1.9 mg 2.6 mg 3.8 mg 5.5 mg 70/3 μg 9 mg 6 mg 175 200 250
2 1.4 mg 2.1 mg 2.9 mg 4.2 mg 6 mg 35 μg 10 mg 7 mg 200 225 275
3 1.6 mg 2.3 mg 3.2 mg 4.6 mg 6.5 mg 35 μg 11 mg 8 mg 225 250 325
4 1.7 mg 2.5 mg 3.5 mg 5 mg 7 mg 35 μg 13 mg 9 mg 250 275 350
5 1.9 mg 2.7 mg 3.8 mg 5.4 mg 7.5 mg 52.5 μg 275 300 375
6 2 mg 2.9 mg 4.1 mg 5.8 mg 8 mg 52.5 μg 300 325 400
7 2.2 mg 3.1 mg 4.4 mg 6.2 mg 8.5 mg 52.5 μg 325 350 425
8 2.3 mg 3.3 mg 4.7 mg 6.6 mg 9 mg 70 μg 325 375 475
9 2.5 mg 3.5 mg 5 mg 7 mg 10 mg 70 μg 350 400 500
10 2.6 mg 3.7 mg 5.3 mg 7.5 mg 10.5 mg 70 μg 375 425 525
11 2.8 mg 4 mg 5.6 mg 8 mg 11 mg 400 450 550
12 3 mg 4.2 mg 5.9 mg 8.5 mg 12 mg 425 475 575
13 3.2 mg 4.5 mg 6.3 mg 9 mg 12.5 mg 450 500 625
14 3.3 mg 4.7 mg 6.6 mg 9.5 mg 13 mg 475 525 650
15 3.5 mg 5 mg 7 mg 10 mg 14 mg Increasing the dose further 500 575 700
16 3.7 mg 5.2 mg 7.3 mg 10.5 mg 15 mg should not be needed for 525 600 725
17 3.9 mg 5.5 mg 7.7 mg 11 mg 15.5 mg testosterone suppression 550 625 750
18 4.1 mg 5.8 mg 8.1 mg 11.5 mg 16 mg but it may give you more 575 650 800
19 4.3 mg 6.1 mg 8.5 mg 12.2 mg 17 mg breast growth, this 600 675 850
20 4.5 mg 6.4 mg 9 mg 12.9 mg 18 mg however comes with 650 725 900
21 4.7 mg 6.8 mg 9.5 mg 13.6 mg 19 mg higher blood-clotting risk 675 775 950
22 5 mg 7.2 mg 10 mg 14.3 mg 20 mg potentially causing deep 725 800 1000
23 5.2 mg 7.5 mg 10.5 mg 15 mg 21 mg vein thrombosis. 750 850 1050
24 5.5 mg 7.8 mg 11 mg 15.7 mg 22 mg 775 900 1100
25 5.7 mg 8.1 mg 11.5 mg 16.4 mg 23 mg 825 925 1150
26 6 mg 8.4 mg 12 mg 17.1 mg 24 mg 850 975 1200
27 6.2 mg 8.8 mg 12.5 mg 17.8 mg 25 mg 900 1000 1250
28 6.5 mg 9.2 mg 13 mg 18.5 mg 26 mg 925 1050 1300
29 6.7 mg 9.6 13.5 mg 19.2 mg 27 mg 975 1100 1350
30 7 mg 10 mg 14 mg 20 mg 28 mg 1000 1150 1400
Here (Valerate, Cypionate, Enanthate, undecylate) refers to different esters of estradiol, choose one of
the column below (or to the left) of the ester you are using if you want stable blood-levels of E 88

It's however not clear that less stable estradiol levels would be worse so you could try injecting less
often (and higher dosage) to see if it works out better for you 89
5. Estradiol patches
When you use patches you can get more stable levels by not replacing all the patches at once. A patch
will deliver more estrogen the first 2.5 days and then the effect will become gradually weaker
especially past day 4.

A general advantage with transdermal (through the skin) administration is that while estradiol will be
absorbed the skin will act as a protective barrier against many harmful substances.

https://www.unitedpharmacies-uk.md/Estradot-Oestradiol-100mcg-8-Patches-p-1487.html
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-2007-climara-50.aspx
https://mindnbody.store/product/wdn4ZGg7EJztw1jp
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/p-2261-estradot-patches-75mcg.aspx

As wee see here a 50 microgram/day patch used for 7 days have similar potency injecting 0.7mg
estradiol ananthate on a weekly basis 88 which is roughly equivalent to 2mg of estradiol per day.

Unfortunately estradiol patches have the issues of high cost and having to be put on 24/7. This is a
general issue with "transdermal" estradiol administration. You need to apply it often or 24/7 with
patches being the only viable way to get stable levels.

Replace different patches at different days for more stable estradiol levels.

You can cut a 50µg/day patch into two 25µg/day patches.

Emulating pregnancy
During pregnancy increases from about 300pg/mL to 17000pg/mL, this would require a dosage of
about 350mg Estradiol Valerate every 5 days which would be overly expensive, it's unclear how this
will affect your overall mortality risk, will it reduce breast-cancer risk? 90 Cis females grow bigger
breasts during pregnancy and therefore higher dosage may also be beneficial for trans females.

https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1097/cej.0b013e3283651ccb

You could just keep increasing the dosage assuming you do not get any health issues from it and you
can afford it assuming and if it results in your body changing in a way you like as a response.

Since your body will think you are pregnant your blood will become more coagulant in order to
prepare for the child-birth and thus the blood clotting risk will be much higher.
Breast growth
Local topical administration can be used to achive breast growth without subjecting your entire body to
pregnancy levels.

https://vintologi.com/attachments/cernea-1944-pdf.508/

Vandenberg (2006) found a non-monotonic response of size of breasts developed as a function of the
dose of exogenous estrogen administered to ovariectomized female mice. Size of breasts was smaller in
mice administered the highest dose of estradiol than mice administered an intermediate dose. The
optimum dose for breast growth in humans can not be extrapolated from this study because
metabolization of pharmaceuticals does not scale linearily with body mass and the growth of the human
body is slower than that of mice. This result suggests the hypothesis that to maximize breast growth in
transsex people it can be appropriate to use a lower dose of the estrogen or increase the dose slowly.

Many HRT regimes do however rely on the estrogen to suppress endogenous androgens; therefore,
starting with low dose of an estrogen potentially risks some degree of continued masculinization and
sub-optimal feminization.

https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1210/endo-28-1-53

https://vintologi.com/threads/best-from-ksenia.609/#post-5135

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/97/12/4422/2536439

There is also some anecdotal support for this but having to use an anti-androgen is far from ideal since
these are expensive and come with side effects.

Dr will powers is not really trustworthy when it comes to medical conclusions/decisions 91 92 93

Should you emulate cis female puberty?
Normal female puberty involve a slow increase of estradiol over a period of 6 years. This however does
not mean emulating cis female puberty is ideal, unless you specifically want to experience something
similar to what cis females go through (requiring you to start early). There are plenty of cis females
with small breasts and you probably do not want that. We can do better than what's ‘natural’.

If your estradiol dosage is low then it will be harder to suppress testosterone, if are still able to
successfully suppress your testosterone levels (such as via Gonadotropin-Releasing Hormone
Antagonist) your health may suffer because you didn’t replace the missing testosterone with estrogen.

You can follow the following schedule to get closer to cis female puberty (then continue from 4 above)

Month Valerate Cypionate Enanthate If you start on pills Patches 24/7 Anti-androgen options
Daily oral Daily oral The total dosage for Bicalutamide Cyproterone
Injection Injection Injection daily all the patches used
every Every 5 every 7 Ethinyl Estradiol Estradiol when you use each Average daily Acetate
Valerate patch for 7 days dosage average
3.5 days days days Estradiol without interruption daily dosage
0 0.6 mg 0.9 mg 1.2 mg 35/3 μg 3 mg 2 mg 75 μg/day 50 mg 12.5 mg
1 0.7 mg 1 mg 1.4 mg 35/3 μg 3 mg 2 mg 75 μg/day 50 mg 12.5 mg
2 0.8 mg 1.1 mg 1.6 mg 35/3 μg 4 mg 3 mg 100 μg/day 50 mg 12.5 mg
3 0.9 mg 1.2 mg 1.8 mg 17.5 μg 4 mg 3 mg 100 μg/day 25 mg 50/6 mg
4 1 mg 1.3 mg 2 mg 17.5 μg 5 mg 4 mg 125 μg/day 25 mg 50/6 mg
5 1.1 mg 1.5 mg 2.2 mg 17.5 μg 6 mg 4 mg 150 μg/day 50/3 mg 6.25 mg
6 1.2 mg 1.7 mg 2.4 mg 70/3 μg 7 mg 5 mg 150 μg/day 50/3 mg 6.25 mg
7 1.3 mg 1.9 mg 2.6 mg 70/3 μg 8 mg 5 mg 175 μg/day 12.5 mg 5 mg
8 1.4 mg 2.1 mg 2.9 mg 70/3 μg 9 mg 6 mg 200 μg/day 12.5 mg 5 mg
9 1.6 mg 2.3 mg 3.2 mg 35 μg 10 mg 7 mg 200 μg/day 10 mg 3.125 mg
10 1.7 mg 2.5 mg 3.5 mg 35 μg 11 mg 8 mg 225 μg/day 10 mg 3.125 mg
Progesterone
You may want to take Micronized Oral Progesterone if you are not on Cyproterone Acatate. The
current recommendation is to add progesterone after 2 to 4 years.

dosage: 200mg Sublingual (under the tongue) or rectal QHS at bedtime

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9160650/
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/104/4/1181/5270376

Progesterone has been found to inhibit breast growth in-vivo

https://doi.org/10.1016/S0015-0282(16)57482-2

https://doi.org/10.1016/S0015-0282(98)00042-9

Estrogen and mental health/abilities

Estrogen is neuroprotective and can be used as an anti-psychotic in both men and women

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0920996410015847

The current 14-day randomized placebo-controlled trial in 53 men with schizophrenia was conducted to
evaluate the efficacy of 2 mg oral estradiol valerate as an adjunct to atypical antipsychotic treatment.
Results demonstrated for estradiol participants a more rapid reduction in general psychopathology that
occurred in the context of greater increases in serum estrogen levels and reductions in FSH and
testosterone levels.

Hormone therapy for trans people will likely have a small/insignificant impact on cognitive
performance towards the mental abilities of the sex they transition to. MtF transition will improve
linguistic intelligence and diminish spatial intelligence. The opposite is the case for FtM transition.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0018506X14001846
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0018506X98914787
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306453098000912
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0018506X06001413
https://eje.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/eje/155/suppl_1/1550107.xml

This is in line with the small observed difference between male and female mental abilities 94 95

Some people may get aroused at the thought of becoming physically and emotionally weak and thus
tell themselves they are getting dumber when they are not. Other individuals were mentally weak long
before they started on hormones, they transitioned because they cannot really make it as males (the
difficulty will keep going up).

You can keep it doing exercise or complement your HRT with stanozolol or oxandrolone (like cis
female bodybuilders) to boost your testosterone.

Safety
The blood clotting risk relative to the effective dosage is higher for oral administration but it's still safer
than taking birth control as cis female.
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/studies-find-that-transgender-hormone-therapy-is-less-
risky-than-birth-control-pills-300770439.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/09/well/live/hormone-replacement-skin-patches-dont-raise-risk-for-
blood-clots.html

It’s not possible to overdose on HRT, nobody has died from injecting too much estrogen.

Are blood tests needed?

The blood-clotting risk can be minimized by only injecting the minimum required to keep testosterone
within the normal female range (when you are not taking any anti-androgen).

Blood tests do not give you that much in terms of useful information. Sure a blood test can tell you if
you have elevated testosterone level (for females) but it's not clear that you would actually benefit from
suppressing that further with an anti-androgen. You might be better off just having high T as a female.

Blood tests can also be used to confirm that you are actually getting estrogen into your body which can
be useful with less reliably routes of administration (such as patches, estradiol gels, estradiol from
sketchy sellers, etc).

You will however likely be fine doing injections without every checking your blood, sure you might
end up injecting more estradiol than needed for t suppression but that doesn't have to be a bad thing.

In any case there definitely isn't any need to do blood tests regularly. It's not something you will need to
monitor closely. Main utility can be to satisfy your own curiosity rather than better feminization.
The stop & go method
One strategy for more breast broth is to abruptly stop estrogen for some time in an attempt to re-
sensitize your receptors.

There are some anecdotes supporting this but trial data doesn't show it to be beneficial 96 at best this is
something that will only help some people while it's overall not beneficial for people who try it. The
final breast growth does not seem to depend on whether or not you interrupted HRT.

https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/BF01542220

The anecdotes reported in favor of it might not even be due to temporarily stopping estradiol, it may
have been caused by something else and misattributed to them stopping HRT.

A trans female wrote:

I am 33 years old (started HRT at 29) and i live in Germany. My body has been below average with not
much fat. This is because of my mother who is very thin, too.

On Juni 21th 2017 i started my HRT with 2mg Estreva Gel per day. For 3 months i keep this regimen
until i changed to 3mg. My T has been very low almost not measurable ( < 0.1 pg/ml) as my blood test
showed. My E2 was at 362 pg/ml.

I saw quite some changes, but my breasts were only very small, almost not existent. So i spoke with my
gyn and asked him, if raising would be an option for this problem. I even read about progesteron,
maybe this might help with it. He told me to take same E2 dosage and use 100mg P4 oral every night. I
did it as he told me and nothing really happened.

After 2 months my breasts started to look pointy like a cone. They haven't changed a lot for the next
two years. I changed my regimen and dosages a lot but always without an AA. I made up my mind that
i would need an augmentation for them. My last hope has been a post where someone wrote that she
stopped HRT for a whole month but with an AA as suppressor for re-masculinization. I wrote with her
in private and she told me her way and steps.
After a week i made my preparations and stopped from 1mg oral E2 to zero. At first I had the feeling
my body changes into female shape became stronger and that my HRT has been blocked my too much
E2. But without the help of an AA i saw my light body hair became a little darker and thicker again.
This is why i asked my gyn for an AA. At first he gave me Drospirenon which did nothing in particular.
After some time he finally prescriped me Cyproteron acetate 10mg which stopped everything in terms
of re-masculinisation.

Then i started E2 again with 1mg per day. I felt some hot flushes in the night at the start but it was not a
true problem. But then happened something i had never imagined: I started to produce milk as my
breasts grew larger. How my breasts became very beautiful and rounded up themselves and i produce a
little milk. The amount grew with every day i milked myself and the enlargement of the breasts is still
not finished.

I surely read that Galaktorrhea is quite common after interrupting HRT and in most terms it is not a bad
sign. But this experience could save me from a breast augmentation. And maybe there is someone
outside who asked herself how to lactate.

Puberty blockers (bad idea)

Puberty blockers are sometimes used to medically 'treat' precocious puberty in cis people, this is
however very questionable

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00044/full#B8

There is no good medical reason for delaying puberty (cis or trans), its done for social reasons. It's
against christian moral dogma for young teens to be sexually active and people having early puberty
may also be teased by peers. We shouldn't subject children to harmful medical treatment in an attempt
to stop bullying or prevent them from being sexually. Teen pregnancy is better than lupron 97 98

It was only when puberty blockers started to be used to delay puberty in trans people (for no good
reason) that they finally came under scrutiny and results are bad.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5694455/

If children could get on HRT earlier there wouldn't be any need to use puberty blockers at all. Instead
we would have the following 3 option

A: start full HRT before puberty. This has the advantage of allowing the individual to pass better as a
female but the price is very high, the child will become sterilized for life and SRS will be significantly
more difficult since there isn't enough tissue to work with.

B: have the child undergo enough male puberty such that sperm can be banked, after that full HRT is
quickly introduced.

C: have the child undergo puberty and delay HRT.

The following study (very poor methodology) does seem to show puberty blockers to be better than C
but even then it can be strongly argued A or B would have been a far better option.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/
It is worth noting that it's very rare for children that started on puberty blockers to desist, almost
without exception they will proceed with cross-sex hormones meaning they will be infertile for life
unless some medical advancement is made allowing them to somehow have biological children.
Spack has, he says, put “about 200 children” on to hormone blockers at the onset of puberty. Of these,
100% have gone on to take cross-sex hormones.

theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/13/transgender-children-the-parents-and-doctors-on-the-frontline

No adolescent withdrew from puberty suppression, and all started cross-sex hormone treatment, the
first step of actual gender reassignment.” These were out of 70 children put on hormone blockers.

pinktherapy.com/Portals/0/CourseResources/
de_Vries_Puberty_Suppression_in_Adolescents_with_GD.pdf

What was the point in delaying puberty if they all ended up on cross-sex hormones anyway?

In order to reproduce when born male you will need to start the male puberty at some point so you
might as well just get it over with as soon as possible so you can bank sperm.

Transitioning to a female is something beautiful and the genes making people do these great things is
something we should pass on. We want trans females to also exist in the future, they are very hot.

Puberty blockers will not even be effective when it comes to preventing bone-masculinization

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRhdWNwOQAg

A trans female wrote:

I would go for B. The puberty blocking route sometimes lead to awkward situations. Like having to use
a breast prosthesis to keep up with the other girls in the class. And also change it regularly for correct
size for the age. Kinda weird and fake and feel horrible to wear. But you have to do it as it's just too
important to not miss out on teen years.

4. Sublingual estradiol administration

Instead of swallowing the estradiol pills you can
let them be absorbed under the tongue, this will
bypass the liver resulting in higher effective
dosage. The issue with this is that it will result in a
sharp spike so you will have to take it every 4:th
hour to get even close to a stable estradiol blood
level.

The obvious issue is that while you can take

estradiol every 2nd hour when you are awake the
level will drop severely when you are asleep
unless you are woken up during the night (or wake
up on your own). One potential way around it is
having it slowly absorbed via buccal (in the
cheek) administration while you are sleeping.
It's simply too unpractical and it doesn't really provide any real benefit over injections.

It's fine to have masculine facial characteristics as female

Many cis females models have masculine facial characteristics. This is
actually attractive to many people even though it may give some trans
females dysphoria.

Part of the reason why female models often look masculine might be that
they are there to look attractive to heterosexual females (and to a lesser
extent gay males who are common in that industry). Having a feminine
appearance is mostly beneficial for attracting lesbians and hetero males 99

Instead of trying to be just like a cis female you need to actually play at
your strength and use the differences you have to cis females to your
advantage.

Being more female is not always better, you need to figure out what is actually beneficial for you. Why
try to be exactly like a cis female when you can be something even better?

Intersex studies: gender identity is not innate

One common misconception is that most/all people have some innate sense of gender. The typical
belief is that the brain has some fixed innate sex that has to match the body.

What we see with intersex people however is the obvious. For most people their sex is not some
important part of their identity, it's just what they happened to be born into and it's more convenient for
them to follow that path than to try to transition (with the difficulties that come with that).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1421518/
5 of 5 people born with micropenis identified as female when raised as such
This is an interesting forced transition experiment and it did not go bad for the reason many people
would assume. The issue was that they were subjected to very questionable genital surgeries causing 4
of 5 to be dissatisfied with their neo-vagina 100

This does still refute the notion of gender identity being innate.

Due to the genitalia not looking like a normal

male baby, infants born with micropenis are
sometimes raised as females. This involves
reconstructive surgery to form a vagina and
hormone treatments.

Although all of the 13 men and 5 women born

with micropenis who participated in the study
identified closely with their gender, only 20% of
the babies raised as females were satisfied with
their genitalia, compared to 50% of the males.

"Patients reared male considered themselves to

be masculine, and those raised female considered
themselves to be feminine," said study author Amy Wisniewski, PhD, of the Johns Hopkins Children's
Center, in a news release. "Our recommendation that babies be raised male is based not on problems
with gender identity but on the difficulties associated with the surgical construction of a vagina and
subsequent hormone treatment."

web.archive.org/web/20060909211109id_/http://facstaff.l3.drake.edu/abwisniewski/papers/13.pdf

While 4 of 5 had doubt regarding their gender they were all

satisfied with their female role

The ones raised as male largely viewed themselves as

masculine while the ones raised as female largely viewed
themselves as feminine.

This is an obvious alternative that hasn't been tried. Instead

of trying to force people into some sex-binary we need to
look at what medical interventions people actually benefit
from.

We shouldn't subject children to surgeries that are not

medically necessary.

It's very difficult to construct a decent neo-vagina even in

the case of adults who started HRT after puberty (it's very
hard to find any good results) and of course the situation is
much worse for children, this simply shouldn't be done.
There is also some ethnical issues with regard to the lack of
consent
Intersex study: 7 of 9 who was raised as female identified as such
All patients raised as male had a normal male gender identity, displayed masculine gender role
behaviour in childhood, and had a heterosexual sexual orientation. Seven of the 10 male patients had
experienced heterosexual intercourse. Two out of nine women did not identify with the female gender.
The majority had masculine gender role interests in childhood. The female patients were significantly
less likely to have experienced sexual activity with a partner than the male patients.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1083318807001660

Gender Identity Outcome in Female-Raised 46, XY Persons with Penile Agenesis, Cloacal
Exstrophy of the Bladder, or Penile Ablation

https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1007/s10508-005-4342-9

Raised as female (penile Agenesis):

Only one case had information regarding dysphoria (she had none).

All subjects with penile agenesis identified as male when the were raised as such. None (of 3 with data
regarding this) had gender dysphoria.
Raised as female (Cloacal or Bladder Extrophy):

6 got no gender dysphoria

2 "likely" got dysphoria

2 did get dysphoric

no information for 15

None of the patients who were raised as male got dysphoric.

0 of 2 who had catastrophic loss of penis as a child became

dysphoric when re-assigned as female.

In total from the data we have we see that 2 of 11 became

dysphoric from being reassigned as female with an additional 2
likely became dysphoric. No information for 30 unfortunately.

The general conclusion we can draw from this is that most people are not actually "cis" in the strict
sense (strongly identifying with their birth-sex) and that most would probably not become dysphoric
from having to change sex for whatever reason.

Many people would be able to adapt neurologically to living as the other sex/gender.

It is worth remembering that HRT will also change the brain, not just the body.

5 of 16 children with Cloacal Exstrophy identified as female when raised as such

For 3 it was unclear what gender identity they had (1 refused to discuss) and 8 identified as male.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa022236

They were all fairly masculine in terms of their behavior

As we see many of the subjects here did express that they would have liked to
be a boy but that does is not the same as developing gender dysphoria. It's
more likely about many of them wanting to be male due to their interests and
natural behavior.

It is worth noting that the study did not regard Cloacal Exstrophy as an
intersex condition. This is might explain why only 5 of 16 identified as female
when raised as such, they were not actually born with any intersex condition
that made their brains more feminine than males on average. You can expect a
similar result if you transition random males early.

We can not however extrapolate this to forced teen/adult transitions. Someone

might do better adapting as a teen/adult (different social situation. etc).
Securing the ability of people to transition to improve their lives
In many countries politicians are trying to win votes by restricting access to HRT, especially for people
under 18 (who cannot vote anyway).

A big problem here is of course democracy. Instead of these decisions being based by evidence its
about catering to ignorant voters.

0. DIY HRT
For now DIY HRT will be a very important option due to long wait times and gate-keeping that exist in
a lot of places (especially in countries with socialized healthcare). That however isn't enough. We also
need people to be able to easily bank sperm prior to HRT and we also need to support young people to
get access to HRT (which can be difficult if you don't control money, etc).

There are also areas where getting hormones online is much harder to to the authorities there putting
effort into preventing you from accessing that.

1. Allies
Since trans people are a rather small minority allies willing to fight for them are very important. It's
important that cis and trans people can easily interact allowing these larger alliances to form in the first
place.

I do think "my body, my choice" is the wrong approach here. Instead we have to demonstrate that
medical transition is beneficial so we also win over people who are not in favor of letting people under
18 get harmful medical treatments such as puberty blockers.

Of course there isn't any good evidence that people at 14 would be significantly worse at making
medical decisions than people at 18, this is something people in general are bad at and it doesn't really
get better as people get older.

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2. The need for randomized controlled trials

The best way to make it undeniable that medical transition is beneficial is doing proper randomized
controlled trials. The notion that "Doing a randomized controlled trial would be unethical since then
people wouldn't get a treatment that is beneficial" is utter nonsense.

People are already being denied HRT at a much larger scale and no it's not the case that people put in
the placebo group wouldn't be able to transition later. As with other medical trials if the placebo group
is doing much worse the trial is cut short allowing everyone to get the effective treatment. Having to
start HRT at 16 instead of 15 isn't some major disaster.

We also need to do randomized controlled trials comparing different HRT approaches (such as
monotherapy injections vs bicalutamide & oral estradiol).

3. Taking over powerful governments

It's very important that we gain government power. When you have the weight of the government on
your side you can do a lot of good. The more power you have the better. We need to take people who
spread harmful transphobic views to court and have them punished for their hate-speech.
We need to gain control over media (including social media) to ensure that people who spread harmful
misinformation are deplatformed.

A big problem in the US right now is that many republican states are becoming increasingly hostile
towards trans people. The solution is obvious, "states right" clearly shouldn't be a thing, we need to
strengthen the authority of the federal government and dissolve local governments. Only the federal
government should be able to make laws.

We also need to restrict the right to vote to our benefit or go further toward elite rule. If we don't do that
other people will and then we cannot vote them out of office.

4. Expanding our borders

Of course once we have gained control over a powerful government like the US government we should
use all that power to expand our influence further. Here having a strong military will be very useful
since there will be a lot of existing governments who will not voluntarily surrender their authority to us.

If we try to go the pacifist route other governments will expand their authority to eventually invade us
101 making the whole thing a bit pointless.

A big part of the reason why Rome expanded was that

they realized that if you are small it will be easy for
others to invade you.

Once we have been able to gain control over the entire

planet we can start building a new better global society
for all of humanity to live in. No more borders, no
more wars.

Replacing the Y chromosome with something better

We really need to ask ourselves if we really want a future were males are reduced to mere sperm donors
and are otherwise not needed. This will be relevant once we have gained control over the entire planet.

One issue with the Y chromosome is that since it doesn't duplicate important genetic info encoded in
the X chromosome resulting in males being at higher risk for disorders such as color blindness 102

Males also tend to die earlier, get bald, etc. Currently the only effective way to mitigate that is via HRT
which will have at least a temporary impact on fertility.

What if we instead created a Z chromosome allowing people with XZ chromosomes to both become
pregnant and produce sperm? (not necessarily simultaneously)

People with XZ chromosomes would create eggs with X chromosomes and sperm with Z chromosomes
allowing for backwards compatibility with XX and XY humans.

The system of having mostly 2 distinct sexes is resulting in a lot of societal tension and unhappiness,
people are bitter due to being confined by the sex they were born into, some people try to medically
change their sex but even then you will never be able to escape the reproductive role. Instead today
medical transition will make you infertile if you take it too far and you end up having to rely on frozen
sperm/eggs.
To update the Z-chromosome to a new version for humanity you would first need to introduce it via
advanced bio-technology and then you can have people with the new Z-chromosome impregnating a lot
more females than males with the old Z-chromosome. Preventing people with the old Z-chromosome to
pass that on is easy, you just castrate her in other ways prevent people with the old Z chromosome to
impregnate others since a XZ human doesn't pass on their own Z-chromosome if they are impregnated
by someone else, this makes total eradication of undesirable Z-chromosomes very much possible.

Preventing self-impregnation
There are multiple ways to reduce the viability of self-impregnation among hermaphrodite humans.

0. Have some genetic lock making it impossible or very unlikely naturally 103 104
1. Kill or castrate people who engaged in self-impregnation. Destroying/removing the testicles of the
parents and the child might be enough since that will prevent them from engaging in further inbreeding.
2. Only enable one reproductive mode at one time (might not require editing any non-Z chromosome).
3. Make it so hermaphrodites will not ejaculate unless their penis is inside someone.

One way to do 2 is to have everyone start out as female and then have people start becoming male after
the end of their female fertility (which will trigger the male fertility) alternatively people could
temporarily gain male fertility (and lose female fertility) via injections with testosterone. This has the
advantage of allowing everyone to grow up as girls and still get the benefit of being able to live as a
male when older and maybe more powerful/rich. This would be in line with how human biology
currently works where a male hormone profile is generally required to make sperm.

It is worth noting that allowing self-impregnation can actually be beneficial in some situations such as
when trying to colonize other planets, it would reduce the risk of people going extinct. For that reason
it might be better to rely on societal repression against self-impregnation rather than biological but for
people living on earth it's much likely better & simpler to only enable one reproductive mode at a time.

Neurology
Being successful would now pay off greatly in terms of reproduction since most people would be able
to impregnate a lot of females eventually when successful. Thus there would be a strong evolutionary
pressure towards risk-taking.

Even when subjected to estrogen and low testosterone (female state) most people would still display
masculine behavior traits. People would likely behave as 'males trapped in female bodies'. People
would likely get turned on by their own feminine bodies and other humans they meet.

It is worth noting that even today a lot of females are highly willing to take big risk for little/no
potential payoff in terms of survival and reproduction, this is likely a bi-product of male evolution
where the same trait evolved in both sexes when it was only really beneficial in one.

Going through female puberty to become a girl should be the norm

If everyone start female with no ability to make sperm then self-impregnation would not be possible (or
very difficult). People would only be female when they are young and attractive.

Before the female puberty people would be similar to boys in terms of their bodies and brains but they
could still be allowed/forced to live like girls early on waiting for the female puberty. Females would
have dicks that would begin as a cute girl-dick and grow over time. It's unclear if the best approach is
having people develop external testicles or if it is better to keep that internal.
Being physically like a boy that also has a vagina: 0 to 11
start of female puberty 11 ± 2
Start of female fertility: 13 ± 2
breast finished growing (if no pregnancy): 17
end of female fertility: 35 ± 5
start of male fertility: 37 ± 5
Penis finished growing: 40 ± 5

The actual solution for this is to have all people be born with testicles, vagina and ovaries. While the
body itself has the capability to make both sperm, egg and support a pregnancy only one reproductive
mode is possible at one time due to different reproductive modes requiring different hormones.

Infertile: 20%
Sperm production: 55%
Female fertility: 25%

This would allow everyone to experience the joy of girlhood early in life. This should most people a
very nice start on their lives where they can basically live like princesses and enjoy a lot of fun sexual
activities suited for girls.

One of the exciting aspects of being female is having all these males desperately wanting you and this
exciting aspect will be even greater here since there would be more males than females alive at any
moment unless males are subjected to very high (unnatural) mortality such as due to civil war.

All females would be required to wear revealing when it isn't cold so other people can get enjoyment
from seeing how nice breasts they have, etc.

People will be taken care of when they are young and most valuable for society while the older people
(males) will expand the borders of our great empire. Living as a male would of course be significantly
harder but living on a harder difficulty is also something that people should be able to enjoy when they
are older and properly prepared for it.

It's unclear if the best approach is having people develop external testicles or if it better to keep that
internal. Keeping the testes external might remain required for temperature regulation.

It would be harder to have people go from male to female since male puberty is less reversible. It's also
much harder to make babies than to impregnate so even if we are able to make someone undergo
female puberty after undergoing male puberty she might never be able to get pregnant after that.

Should some people be allowed to not live as girls?

It would be possible for people to skip the female phase by injecting testosterone, then they would
instead become male right away allowing them to impregnate females early on. These young males
would likely be appreciated by a lot of the young people who become female while making it even
harder for the old people to get sex with females.

There would be an equilibrium point where it would become detrimental for the overwhelming
majority to become male right away (skipping the female puberty) and the older individuals (who
would be almost all male) probably wouldn't like that so they might force all the young to go through
the female puberty anyway so they can impregnate all the young girls themselves.
We might also see the option of skipping living as a female being reserved for the children of the
societal elite and then of course these males would enjoy very favorable laws when interacting with
females. This however might create resentment and it doesn't even offer that much in terms of potential
benefits with the main benefit being the ability to make more females pregnant and earlier.

If there is a cultural norm of the rulers being male then a successor might have to go through the male
puberty early for that reason (such as due to their predecessor dying early) but most likely people will
accept members of the ruling elite sometimes being female, it could even be beneficial in terms of
making more people relate to them. Testosterone is mostly useful for boosting spatial intelligence 105

In almost all cases a member of the ruling elite will be able to do just fine being a girl/woman until 30
to 40. They could still have 16 to 24 children by being impregnated by males prior to becoming male
themselves.

Having some people become infertile women instead

There would be a lot more fertile males than fertile females and this would encourage pushing/forcing
other males to remain as female (becoming infertile) so they can impregnate young girls instead.

There would also be some people who just don't want any more children (at least for now) and then
decide to delay becoming a man. This probably wouldn't be as favorable as current MtF transition since
there wouldn't be the possibility of banking sperm to impregnate a female later.

Full hermaphrodism
With full hermaphrodism people are simultaneously able both to get pregnant and impregnate at the
same time.

Hermaphrodite species sometimes like that sometimes have a biological mechanism against self-
impregnation 103 and we probably want that for humans to if we are going to turn humans into full
hermaphrodites so people do not have to worry about accidental incest.

A lot of sexual fun can be had when everyone has a working dick that can put semen on the tongue.

Being able to impregnate: 13 (±2) to 65 (±13)

Being able to get pregnant: 12 (±1) to 38 (±7)

This has the advantage of allowing young people to have children with other young people instead of
having to resort to older people for that.

This could also allow larger groups to form and maybe allow people in said group to freely to to
impregnate others in the group.

People could do a lot of fun sexual activities where they all get to enjoy seeing other people they are
attracted to. It wouldn't just be sexual activities, there are all kinds of fun stuff people can do together
when there isn't a constant competition for a partner.

This can be compared to today where males are often disgusted by other naked males and there is also
constant conflict/competition between males for sex. Thresomes with several females and one male
instead currently have the problem of only having one dick to satisfy two people which tends to not be
overly practical. Typically the male will only to to impregnate one of them if any of them at all.
There would still be a lot of demand for females to make pregnant since there would be a lot of older
hermaphrodites seeking young hermaphrodites to impregnate while young hermaphrodites would have
the option to simply pair up with each other to have children.

The big demand for people to impregnate could result in some people being raped. There are however
many potential countermeasures against illegal rapes

0. If someone illegally rapes someone they will have to pay for all the expenses of raising the child.
1. Avoid situations where 2 people who are not married/similar are alone together.
2. Monitor public non-bathing areas with cameras.
3. Have separate areas for the old people who can no longer get pregnant.
4. Avoid having less than 8 people at the same time at public baths/showers.

Old people would likely be viewed as generally unattractive and most of them would end up incel or
resorting to things like paying sex-worker, porn, sex with old people they are not really attracted to, etc.

A lot of older people would be rather desperate to have one more child so these people would be the for
society biggest risk group when it comes to sex-crimes.

It's however unclear how to actually change humans to enable the ability to get pregnant and
impregnate at the same time so while this approach is very interesting it might remain forever
theoretical due to we never finding a good actual implementation for it.

Governing a society of hermaphrodites

Young people are already today more valuable for society than the elderly and that difference would be
far greater in a hermaphrodite society.

To prevent resources from being misallocated to the elderly laws hostile to young people we need to
prevent most of the elderly from voting. It's bad enough in our current society where most people are
basically born into either sex 106

Note that you can still have a society where people over 40 have most of the power if said power is
distributed to few enough individuals.

It's also possible to have a hybrid system where the highest power is very much not democratic while
people under a certain age are still allowed to participate in referendums (such as allowing everyone
between 15 and 40 to vote).

Population control
When people are providing the resources they need there would be selection towards reproducing more
aggressively due to genes and culture promoting that (such as some religions) being selected for 107

Eventually you will need to somehow artificially suppress the population or simply have people die
from lack of resources needed to sustain life (such as lack of food). It's not clear if artificial population
suppression is preferable to people being limited by lack of resources. You could simply have people
themselves take responsibility and let children starve if their parents cannot provide food for them.

There would be a trade-off between having more people living on earth vs having fewer people live
lives of higher quality.
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Honmoding is arguably preferable to perpetual boymoding unless you live in a transphobic

environment, detransitioning often do not work out particularly great 108 109