1.DALI-gateway Update PDF
1.DALI-gateway Update PDF
1.DALI-gateway Update PDF
Ramakanth Kumathe
By these experiences it was decided to prepare DALI-2 by Digital illumination interface Alliance (=DiiA) containing:
- Close the gaps and correct the failures,
- Add new functions and devices, i.e. sensors and application controllers,
- Specify all types of devices, max. 64 ECGs and 64 sensor controllers can be connected. (depending on power)
- Offer a certification process according extended IEC 62386 basing on DALI-2 Test machines & improve compatibility,
- Be more strict on the rules, no DALI logo on products if not specified and registered.
DALI manufacturers can test their products by their own with a test machine or ask a company. The test result must be sent
to DiiA for certification.
The DALI-2 certificate is achieved if the product is listed on the DiiA homepage and the product can be marked with a DALI-2
Logo!
Which type of DALI lamps can we control with our single master controllers MTN6725-000x ?
We support lamps (=ECGs) with DALI and DALI-2 compatibility, also mixed, but we do not support DALI-2 sensors.
- DALI-2 sensors are sensitive against bad wiring, could happen that DALI GW cannot understand telegrams, (control
gears are also sensitive, but often they execute correctly commands only the feedback is not understood), max. voltage
drop is 2V,
- Max. cable length for DALI /DALI-2 depends on material, cross section, and temperature from 26 to 300 meter, too low
cross section means also a bad wiring,
- If DALI-2 sensors configuration starts with same procedure like DALI lamps, “configuration by feet's”, so it is not
convenient,
- DALI-2 sensors without an application controller must not send telegrams to control gears directly, DALI-2 sensors with
an application controller can control ECGs directly, but what about the coordination of different app. Controller,
- KNX sensors offer more control opportunities, Example: A weekly timer can control a pres.detector and the result is
transmitted to KNX HVAC actuators, to KNX blind actuators, to KNX switch actuators to switch lamps and to KNX DALI
Gateway for lighting with tunable white, so less configuration work for KNX DALI controller
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Some aspects with DALI-2 sensors
KNX DALI-Gateway =
Application Controller with
integrated DALI power supply
DALI CONTROL
e64 – V3.1
KNX DALI Gateway KNX DALI Gateway Basic KNX DALI Gateway Basic
REG-K/1/16(64)/64/IP1 REG-K/1/16/64 REG-K/2/16/64
MTN6725-0001 MTN6725-0003 MTN6725-0004
Premium Basic
Individual control of ECGs, e.g single office, with one or two No individual control required/recommended (more than 2
lamps in each office, one gateway can manage 64 or 32 ECGs in each group), each group is then cheaper than in the
offices premium, Basic 2 channel even cheaper.
Use of webserver from visualisation, e.g spaceLYnk or EBO
Use of DALI status app in W4K/SpaceLynk via IP
Change of scenes, effect and internal scheduler without ETS
via webserver
Use of emergency lighting test function from spaceLYnk or
BMS system (for logging of test result)
Occupied Address Number Each channels occupies 1 address Dual channels share 1 address
◼ Office
◼ Airport
◼ Metro stations / Railway stations
◼ Data centre
◼ Shopping Mall
◼ Infrastructure
◼ Factories
◼ Hospital
◼ Schools & Universities
KNX DALI gateway Basic
Update
• In the previous version, the 16 scenes had fixed scene numbers 1-16, 1:1 (recalled with value 0-15)
• Now it is possible to assign any of the available scene numbers 1-64 to the 16 scenes
• Same flexibility as we have in the switch, dimming and blind actuators
Note: To use this feature, the gateway must have FW 0.2.0 or higher. If the gateway has lower FW, it can
only use the old scene numbering 1-16. A warning appears by downloading the scenes and the scene
numbers in the DCA will be set back to 1:1 in case you accept it.
• Possibility to control DT-8 colour control ECGs via KNX group objects (only
for DALI groups)
• Enhanced possibilities to use DT-8 colour in scenes
(both groups and individual controlled ECGs)
• Use of DT-8 colour in effects DALI CONTROL
(both groups and individual controlled ECGs) e64 – V3.1
ECG 1
ECG 2
ECG 3 DALI
KNX
ECG 4
ECG 5
ECG 6
DALI CONTROL
e64 – V3.1
ECG 64
230 V
Group control
Individual control
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Software installation in ETS - 2-step procedure
2
• Product database
• Application software for configuration of group objects
and parameters 4
• Imported in normal way via knxprod file or online catalog
1
• ETS5 DCA App (Device Control App, dongle must be plugged)
• Software for DALI, scene, effect and time control (template) configuration
• Installed from the app section on ETS start page in the lower right corner
‒ 1. Click Apps
‒ 2. Click + button 3
‒ 3. Select the etsapp file
• The ”Compatibility Mode App” must be activated for the DCA to work
‒ 4. Activate the app if not already done. ETS restart is required
DCA app available on Schneider home page
• When the DCA is installed it will appear as an own tab when the product is and KNX online shop
selected in the project
• Group objects are organised in channels and folders which makes them easier and faster to find
• Select the device – All objects of the device in the list
• Select a channel – All gereral objects or objects for a group or a ECG in the list
• Select a folder – All objects for a functional area, e.g. Colour control, of the channel in the list (improvement over Basic gateways)
• The name of the group/ECG in the name field = the description field is now free for group address name
• No need to open plug-in to change parameters
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Configuration steps with
DALI config via ETS
Offline
• Step 1 – Write descriptions of the ECGs (DCA)
• Step 2 - Assign ECG’s to groups (DCA)
• Step 3 – Give groups user friendly names (DCA)
• Step 4 – Adjust parameters of groups and possibly ECGs and link GA’s
On-site
• Electrical installation finished
• Step 5 – KNX commissioning
• Step 6 – Start DALI commissioning (DCA) KNX
DALI
• Step 7 – Identifying ECG’s (DCA)
• Step 8 – Linking real ECG’s to planned ECG’s (DCA)
• Step 9 – Download the DALI configuration into the gateway (DCA)
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DALI configuration and commissioning
Planning example
Corridor 105
E26 E20 E21 E22 G9 E23 E24 E25 E27
E6
G7 G5 G3 E7
E16 E17 E12 E13 E8 E9 G2 E28
E5 E1 G1 E2 E3
E18 E19 E14 E15 E10 E11
G8 G6 G4
E4
Room 104 Room 103 Room 102 Room 101 Room 106
Right-click
Tooltip
Free for
group address
name
230 V
DALI
ECG 1
ECGs belonging
ECG 2
to group 1
ECG x
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y 0.9
Colour control 0.8
DALI DT-8 colour types supported by the gateway
0.7
0.6
• xy-coordinates
• Colour is selected with a x and y-coordinate representing a 0.5
• RGBW
• RED: 0-100% Note!
• GREEN: 0-100% The forth DT-8 colour type
• BLUE: 0-100% ”Primary N” is not supported
• WHITE: 0-100%
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Colour control – Control possibilities from the gateway
• Colour Temperature
• RGB Colour
• RGB combined object or
• RGB separated objects or
• HSV separated objects
• RGBW Colour
• RGBW combined object or
• RGBW separated objects or
• HSVW separated objects
• XY Colour
• XY combined object or
• XY separated objects
• Colour Temperature
• Push-buttons
• Multitouch Pro
• W4K / sL
Left: brightness
Right: colour temp relative 0-100%*
• RGB Colour
• RGB combined object
• W4K / sL (colour picker)
• RGB separated objects
• Multitouch Pro / Scenes
• W4K / sL
• HSV separated objects
• Push-buttons
• Multitouch Pro
• W4K / sL
• RGBW Colour
• RGBW combined object
• Future use, new data type
• RGBW separated objects
• Multitouch Pro / Scenes
• W4K / sL
• HSVW separated objects
• Push-buttons
• Multitouch Pro
• W4K / sL
• XY Colour
• XY combined object
• W4K / sL
• Special usage, e.g. to set supported Tuneable
white lights outside of black body line
0.7
0.6
0.5
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
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0 0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.8
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Colour control – Setting for individual controlled DT-8 ECGs
• ECG Type
• Select ECG with Colour Control
• Colour Control Type
• Select the format that should be used in
Scenes, Effects and Time Control
• Broadcast enabled
• Switching + value
• Colour temperature (2 byte)
And/or
• One RGB, RGBW or XY colour type
1. 2. 3. 4. 11. 10.
9 6.
7. 8.
5.
1. 2. 3. 7.
4.
8.
6.
5.
3.
8. 7. 6. 5. 4.
9. 3.
Right-click
menu
In this example a single ECG (RGBW) changes colour in a loop, if the lamp is on.
The brightness (and on/off state) is not controlled by the effect program in this case (hence ”Keep value”).
The on/off/value can be sent from a KNX sensor or time switch.
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Effect module - Control via the bus
Double-click
ECG 1
ECG 2
ECG 3 DALI
KNX
ECG 4
ECG 5
ECG 6
DALI CONTROL
e64 – V3.1
ECG 64
230 V
Group control
Individual control
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Web server (admin) Configuration page
Program scene
Save Effect
Save Template