Process piping in Revit? (Losing plant 3D)

Considering Process piping in Revit-

Advanced steel and detailing available in Revit, analytics, and PnID (I haven't used) are available for structure and a more integrated workflow.

But if the B31.3 code for process piping is an issue- apparently Revit is probably not the best choice for now. However, if B31.3 is NOT an issue - careful consideration towards workflow is critical - then Revit just may be what Process and Plant users are looking for to move forward and be compatible.

After 40 years, AutoCAD is on its way out. Form a software perspective- it simply cannot bear any more burden of overlain systems without a complete rework. And with reworks com of dollars spent + bugs + issues + Loss of reverse compatibility. This has already shrink from file versions and full backwards comparability from a scale of YEARS to barely one version back - with dot versions becoming more and more critical. There is a slim chance Autodesk may rework AutoCAD - but the current platform isn't truly parametric and just keeps bloating. Civil profiles require a 'force regenerate' as do AutoCAD Architecture sections and generated views. The only things keeping AutoCAD alive are the industries that clinging to it - and those have been shifting for about 10 years now. Given the amount of integration and data that is on its way down the pipe (pun intended : ) AutoCAD without a complete revamp (and all that entails with bugs, interface, etc) has a slim chance of survival. How much longer- who knows? But as the shift occurs- speed will be the issue. The faster the true model evolves the better.

Used to be one-line drawings, bubble diagrams and hand sketches started the whole process in SD 20 or even 10 years ago. Now we start with 3D models or walls floors doors and windows- still will get arguments about how hand sketching and the artistic side is warmer or critical- but the tools evolve- and so must we.

Sketches, One lines and bubble diagrams requiring more and more rework as layouts in larger scale plans reveal more and more accurate representations.

Stating with accurate representations we gain accuracy and perspective the 1st time across iterations- less waste. And we gain analysis and better ongoing guesstimates in QTO. Sketches and bubble diagrams and one lines simply do not convey accurate quantity and cost. Eliminating "Design intent" is critical to evolving. otherwise we will "Design intent" ourselves out of professions as Design build takes over.

I see the same with PnIDs. [Que the retorts] Hard ingrained just as hand sketching and drawing in architecture- they are the engineering version of "design intent". They may convey quantity of large ticket items, but do not directly relate to quantities of 3D systems in construction, sequence etc, but only the intent of the sequence and arrangement of the process and events.

I am not Trained in PnIDs- but I see the exact same relationships to elements..

(c)2018 Ron E Allen

Architecture- and those elements are falling away.