Networking Café expanding understanding Natural Inclusion

In this session we met with Alan Rayner to understand Natural inclusion. We started with what we knew so far, then Alan related his explanation to what he heard from the group and then the group asked questions to elaborate understanding further. The polymathic exploration helped everyone to see the topic from different perspectives and to integrate further knowledge. It's a practical example of Natural Incusion.#

We met as a group and gathered our understanding of Natural Inclusion so far:

Natural Inclusion is the interrelationship of all things in the universe.

I see five layers of life, but as the interdependency. The five layers of life are nature, culture, system, dynamics, and consciousness. You can find natural inclusion on each of those layers.

The fit with your surroundings including nature. The energy around you and society in general.

There is no space because we're all space. What’s was going underneath the ground amongst the trees, the mycelium. We're all connecting tendrils together to making who we are.

It would mean that everything and everybody fits in and complements each other.

The vital vortex would be one name. We are in an inviting space, that invites all of nature into being.

I agree with some physicist saying we are mass, energy and information we are part of a network. Everything is networks. Inclusion meaning part of being part of the network, which is natural.

Natural inclusion is like understanding the synapse, like we have a neural synapse in the mind. I think we have some kind of synapse outside in the environment also, where we try to connect. Then there will be people who will try to get in between the synapse. I'm working on through that understanding, I guess.

Natural inclusion to me is integrated connective communication.

Space, the gaps, people think of as nothing, is, as important. It’s the thing holding everything together it's probably a polymath trait to look into those gaps and perhaps see what's there, at the connections between something. That space, is included. Nothing is as important as the everything.

I think it's about providing the spaces. You need to give people the feeling that you're providing them with a space, so that they can include themselves, and feel empowered to do something about it.

To me, it's everything is one. One is everything.

The conscious and subconscious in multidimensional, multi transverse of just the beings, beings, meaning all entities and how the fluctuations of consciousness and subconscious interact and create whatever experiences are being led in every dimension.

One of the things that I thought about is love your neighbour as you love yourself. What is important, authenticity or belonging? I think natural inclusion is authenticity and belonging.

Now Alan Rayner responds our concepts:

Polymathic practice is looking at the issue from all different angles of view, from outside and inside simultaneously. Natural inclusion is the basic organizational principle of the reality of our experience. It is what holds everything together and enables us to understand both what we all have in common, and why we're all different and that we're all different, the fact that we're all different is what we have in common. Everybody misses out one aspect. Scientists have objective, artists subjective perception, some think analytically, others intuitively.

Like swans and hawks: How would you feel if you had eyes on the side of your head? How would you experience your own reality and the reality in which you occur?

Primates have eyes on the front of our faces and powerful frontal hemispheres of the brain. We have left and right hemispheres of the brain, and they communicate by the corpus callosum.

Natural inclusion is about bringing both our ability to focus. A truly comprehensive view of reality and our place within it. It's about natural continuity. If you substitute the word continuity for connectedness, you'll arrive at this more comprehensive view. It is a way of understanding the relationships, the interrelationships between all.

Any of us who've been in love will know what this means. We have a receptive aspect, which we feel in our hearts, and we have a responsive aspect, which leads us to want to embrace. And it is that sort of combination of the receptive and the responsive that is so important. We can find that receptive responsive relationship at all scales of organization from subatomic to galactic.

I wrote a little piece this morning and posted it on LinkedIn......

It is, as Julia said, the recognition of space as a presence of absence.  Space is what attracts, natural boundaries as what dynamically distinguish, not what define, not what separate. It's about making distinctions not separating. Many poets have understood this. It’s our tendency as human beings to impose definition upon the flow that cannot be defined, that puts us into trouble in understanding of science of mathematics, just about everything. Natural inclusion is the dynamic inclusion of immaterial space in material form and vice versa. Note the word dynamic, that's where energy comes in and time.

If you try to eliminate any of these things, you're in dead trouble. And nearly everyone does. Even Einstein did in splitting space time from energy mass. He created a forced dichotomy and that then contrasts with another kind of forced dichotomy quantum mechanics is based upon. It is that far reaching, but at the heart of it, for our human being, when we understand natural inclusion.

Honesty, reasonability, kindness.

Faith, hope, love.

Love our neighbours and neighbourhood as we love ourselves, not either or.

Recognizing the femininity of the receptive and the responsiveness of the masculine. The relationship between darkness and light. So much of our human angst comes from fear of darkness. Well, if you understand that darkness is a source of love, it's essentially what pulls all together and which light responds to. One of my pieces of writing was based on playing them on the language of Genesis was I said “in the beginning was the void and the void was good. She said, let there be light. And there was light and the two made love.”

Now the group asks questions: How does change, and time fit into this?

It’s dynamic inclusion of space and form. Natural inclusion is an evolutionary process and an evolutionary principle. It creates diversity. The energy and the space together co-create material form in myriad forms biologically and culturally and cosmologically. There is no stasis. You can't freeze frame reality. If you look at the wrong kind of calculus, for example, it’s like using a series of freeze frames and then putting them all together to give it the illusion of movement.

Reality is continuously changing.

That's one of the aspects of natural continuity. There's, there's the spatial aspect which is continuous and there's the energetic aspect which is continuous and the two together combine to produce this amazing diversity of natural flow form. We're all flow forms.

You moved your hand in a circle, Alan, was this an aspect of the answer you would like, you were trying to give?

I feel natural inclusion. And I can't help but express it in this way as a circulation of energy. Those things are manifestations of that receptive responsive relationship. Between the spatial, which is zero pressure and energetic, which is pressure. It is like understanding weather systems, no one can predict the weather because the nature of weather is indefinable. You can try to freeze frame it and predict it in the short term, you can't predict it in the long term. This is one of the origins of chaos theory. But chaos theory is also a bit wrong, because it's got the wrong maths.

I was thinking about Rupert Sheldrake's idea of morphic resonance, and that seems to me to be a fascinating idea, that actually, because of the flow that you so beautifully illustrate with your words and your paintings, there is something about, in this, about flowing and kind of learning as we go.

That is and that is what evolution is. It's cumulative learning and it's learning as we go. Resonance is a very important, interesting idea, look at consonants and dissonance, resonance, is if you’re on the same wavelength, then you have consonants.

This relates to music as well. The responsive relationship between space and energy creates music.

You might see the polymath circle as the natural community choir. It's, polyphonic. Bringing together diversity of voices produces this flow, which is a combination of consonants and dissonance. It's not a cacophony. Natural inclusion is both about ethics and it's also about aesthetics and the sense, I don't like to talk about unity. I like to talk about community. We're in such a dreadful political mess because we try to impose the binary. We just create opposition and conflict.

For me the biggest understanding is how the darkness becomes the light, and then the other way around.

Natural inclusion is an aesthetic of the heart.

This is one of my favorite poems about natural inclusion. Everybody is a cavity at heart. ......

There is no such thing as definitive completeness. And that's because we have space as a receptive presence everywhere, infinite. And we have natural boundaries as energetic dynamically informative which relates information. Information is fundamentally energetic. It's a process in formation. A vortex. This what I feel when I do my paintings or my paintings, my paintings are about this aesthetic and recognizing it, and I'm feeling it. Okay. And the poems too.

True democracy, I understand it, is about everyone having a, a say, not about majority dominance. It’s like in indigenous sharing circles, in which you have a circle of elders, bring a different angle of view to an overall comprehensive understanding of your actual situation.

I keep aiming for the centre, the bit of space, the quiet, the solitude, and I just get caught up in everything.

Current science based on objective methodology excludes the intangible aspect of reality, it excludes the immeasurable, the non quantifiable. The only quantifiable presence is material. If you keep cutting material down, you end up with an aspect of material that isn't quantifiable. Stay with the simplicity,

the dynamic inclusion of immaterial space in material form and vice versa.

You hold on to that, you start from there and all starts to fall into place. You can relate that very basic. As I say, the fundamental organizational principle of reality itself. You can relate that basic principle to all aspects of human endeavour, human experience. We've been missing the point as human beings for thousands of years.

The cavity of the heart which is receptive and calls and cause form into becoming, so it's the being within the becoming.

You can never have the creation of a universe because there must always have been something there. Nothing is also a something.

I use a physics theory that for every reaction, there's an equal and opposite reaction.

It's not either inclusion or exclusion. That's a product of definitive logic, which is right at the heart of current mathematical physics, which is why current mathematical physics is in a mess. Essentially, underlying mechanical action and reaction is immaterial receptivity and response. So it is essentially natural inclusion that underlies more deeply the superficial expression of mechanical action and reaction. There are no definitive boundaries. Boundaries do not cut space. You cannot cut space. You can't cut time either. You can only cut material.

Alan is stirring our consciousness, all of our energy, thought, provoking quantitative research, a qualitative insight. Love. These things are just perpetual, being his baseline and foundation from all of these concepts to be built upon, which essentially just equates to the love energy and frequency across all dimensions, all thought forms, all matter, all non matter, is basically my conclusion.

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