Netflix's The Night Agent Is The Great Television Guilty Pleasure Of 2023

As by now I think many people will have finished The Night Agent on Netflix, I wanted to share the MOST FUN episode of Watch This Tonight we've done to date. Myself and James Jefferson had each other rolling breaking down the most hilariously evil Vice President, all-time great ride-or-die TV girlfriends, the comical mechanics of no voice being recognizable on a phone by the final episodes, and the Top Gun Maverick-esque glorious Americana of the ending sequence. In all seriousness, we LOVE this show BECAUSE of its over-the-top touches. If you found The Night Agent great fun but a little silly, you're going to enjoy this episode. Transcript below, or click the Apple Podcasts link to listen.

Your daughter got shot! And he's like, 
"Bring your ass. The president wants to see you."

Dan [00:00:01] Welcome to "Watch This Tonight". I'm your host, Dan Benamor. I'm a produced writer of film and television and now a podcast producer. And despite having every streaming service, I never know what to watch. So anytime I watch something good, I talk about it on the show. This way, you'll never have the same problem I do. On "Watch This Tonight". There's always something good to watch. Let's get started. All right. Today on the show, we're doing "Guilty Pleasures of The Night... Agent." We have a guest today that I'm very excited to welcome to the program. Sort of like longtime listener, first time caller. James. I'm so excited to have you on the show. Could you just tell the audience a little bit about who you are?

James [00:01:01] Hey, my name is James. I am. I'm just a guy that loves, like, movies and TV. Like, since I was a kid, you know, And I and I'm like, I'm probably super nerdy about it because I don't just watch things I like, you know, I analyze and I want to know where I've seen an actor before. I want to know who directed it, who who's the producer on it. So I dive pretty deep into shows and TV and movies that, like most people, probably wouldn't do. And my wife finds it annoying at times, but at the same time, she knows I know a lot of these things that she will ask me. She knows I know the answer. She'd say, Oh, my husband knows the answer to that. Hey, who's on that show, baby? You know, so I it's a blessing and a curse to her, I guess. You know.

Dan [00:01:44] This is this is a game that I play with my with my dad because my dad never knows anything about what he's actually watched. He knows like one word, one name, a face. The guy from that thing. Oh, yes. And I instantly I'm like, Oh, yeah, Well, that's, you know, such a such thing.

James [00:01:59] Yeah. Oh, we play that game at the house here all the time because my wife is terrible, like names, but she just knows it's that one guy from that one show that did the one thing. She didn't know anything. And if I could put that together for she's impressed with it. But, you know, I got to know her well enough now. You know, I become like, oh, I know who you're talking about. And this is like, I got to know. And she was like, I know you know what? You don't know.

Dan [00:02:22] It's like a Jedi mind trick. We're we're excited to talk about "The Night Agent", the full season that has dropped. James and I both finished it, and I think we both had kind of a similar reaction. You sent me a note on Twitter that I thought was hilarious and like, honestly, like, I don't know that I would go this far, but I do think that it like it speaks to the conversation we're going to have, which is you said, "I have concluded it is a bad show, but I think they know how campy it is. That being said, I would 100% watch another season."

James [00:02:58] I hope. I hope they do another season. Yeah, I may pull back a little bit on that statement at this point, having done a little bit more analytics on it, that was just like in a moment. That was an action though, like I think is is a bad show. But like but I think they know what they're doing. It's not like sometimes people make bad product and they don't realize that it's bad and they think it's good and that makes it worse. But sometimes people know like, Oh, there's things about this that really aren't great, but like, we kind of know that, but we're giving you some of the stuff that you that you kind of like that makes up for it. And I kind of feel like that's what the show is.

Dan [00:03:37] I keep using the term guilty pleasure because what I think is the sort of the the frog in the boiling pot of water thing that happens with the show is you turn it on. And I want to be clear. I want to make sure I state this clearly. I am obsessed with Shawn Ryan. The reason that I am in entertainment media in any form, and I've written television, I've written films, is because of Shawn Ryan. I watched The Shield when I was like I watched it probably from when I was like 13 was just too young to watch that show.

James [00:04:06] Way too young.

Dan [00:04:07] Until like college. Like when it came out, it was like appointment television for me. And I think it's the best show of all time. So you go into it and there's Shawn Ryan and it's on Netflix and you think it's going to be like a classic prestige kind of show, which is takes itself very seriously and is is made a certain way. And as you go into it deeper and deeper and deeper and you get to know the characters more and you start to see the tone of it. It's very clear that it's kind of goofy.

James [00:04:37] Yes, it's a good word. There's some there's some goofiness going on on the show, but it's all but it's all kind of matched by this, like because they give, like the high octane, high stakes, you know, situations going on where like, oh, man, this is a really oh, this is going to be a really serious show. You know, it's really going to be gritty. It's not really it's not that gritty.

Dan [00:05:03] A good area of the show that encapsulates this that's non spoilery and we'll get into spoilers soon but is the two assassins and their whole relationship which has no basis in reality whatsoever. I wouldn't say cartoonish, but I wouldn't say it's that far away from being cartoonish.

James [00:05:25] It's very close to being cartoonish. Yeah. There's some things that go on between those two that is very odd and weird and kind of almost takes you out of the show for a minute.

Dan [00:05:37] There's an episode when and I'm forgetting her name. The the Chief of staff. The lady who? Yeah. Diane Farr. Yeah. And so she is meeting with Peter, and they meet at, like, a zoo. For no particular reason. Just because it's an interesting place to set a scene. And then she has this whole monologue about this, about, like, the lion, and it's. It's. And you're sort of.

James [00:06:04] Watching it a little. Like what? Yeah. What was that? I mean, I got it at the end, but I'm like...

Dan [00:06:12] The show obviously has been a massive success. It's already been renewed for season two. And I was thinking about it because the nature of me doing this podcast is that I have to keep coming up with new episodes. So it's rare that I watch this something to completion. If I watched something to the end, I'm really engaged by it for whatever reason, and I think the reason that I'm that I finished this show and I was so engaged by it and obviously the audience has been engaged by it, is that I think it took what is a pretty straightforward thing. And they put just enough weird stuff into it that it throws you off balance as the viewer.

James [00:06:47] It does, yeah, I think. And I really think that's what got because I this show was not on my radar. My wife saw the trailer and said, "Oh, this looks like it might be good." I said, "Okay, well, let's see." Yeah. By the end of the first episode, I just want to see what's going to happen next, because they do hit you with a lot right away. And like in like, I just want to see because of that in my head, I'm like, I don't I don't know what this is. I don't know. They throw me off with the because a tonal change like right away, you know, and I'm just like, what? Okay, I got to see what else is next. And then we just end up like we I mean, we almost are basically let's let's take our time with, you know, because we are always running these shows like, so fast. Just take our time, at least make it last a week or so. And that's what we did.

Dan [00:07:37] Thing that we keep kind of circling around, I would argue, is actually the secret sauce of the show. If they had done it like totally straightforward and there wasn't anything weird in the design of the characters or the tone or certain things that they do in the dialog or whatever. Like, I don't know, I probably would have checked out of it sooner. Because it would have been too straight down the middle.

James [00:07:58] Yes, there there are some dialog things that are just not. That's the stuff that I say. That's that's not good. Some of the lines. And I was like, but like at this point I'm already in. So I just accepted it. I'm just like, okay, I know what this show is doing. And then I didn't know, but I thought I knew. I thought I knew that. I didn't know that I knew. I didn't know.

Dan [00:08:25] Yeah we have to get into specifics to talk about this and fully like sort of embrace it. So I would say if you've already seen the show, obviously, stay with us. If you have not seen it and you and you're not going to watch it, I encourage you to listen because there's some stuff that just us describe it again, I think would be pretty entertaining.

James [00:08:41] I think so.

Dan [00:08:44] I want to talk about Episode Seven because a ton of important stuff happens in Episode Seven. This is the one that starts with we see the flashback to young Maddie, the vice president's daughter.

James [00:08:53] Yes.

Dan [00:08:54] So I'm just literally going to describe what happens at the beginning of this episode. She's playing with her sister. The vice president is on like a work call and he literally says this out loud. Essentially. He says voters don't win elections. CEOs and super PACs do. So he's basically like. Almost like cartoonish, twirling, mustached villain at that point.

James [00:09:18] Out. I'm glad you said that because it's like, oh my God. Okay, go ahead.

Dan [00:09:22] And then Maddie at the time is like five. And he leaves her like, like alone. And the sister goes in a pool and drowns. And then. Afterwards we see little. Maddie, five year old and the vice president in a limo, and they're driving, like, to the funeral. And she is obviously devastated. She's a little girl. And she says something to the effect of like, "Oh, I can wish my sister back." And he literally tells her, "She's never coming back. And you were supposed to be watching her." And this is like a five year old. It reminded me so. Much of the beginning of Walk Hard when Dewey Cox cuts his brother in half with the machete.

James [00:10:02] Yes.

Dan [00:10:03] And his dad says, "The wrong kid died."

James [00:10:08] Oh, I'll tell you, the vice president character, this is like the worst. I'm like, that's when I really knew I'm okay. Like, I kind of already. Picked up that the vice president was kind of it was villainous. But like, we've just gone to the extreme, like you said, the twirly mustache, you know, tying the kid to the train tracks and let the train run over him. It was wild back there was a wild scene. And that whole dynamic between him and the daughter while he was just outrageously evil with her.

Dan [00:10:41] It's like he literally could have said, "You're not even half the brother he was after you cut him in half." And it would have been the same tone.

James [00:10:48] Yes. Yes. Oh, and what about since we're getting into it? What about when, like, after she's gotten shot and she's like, oh, we got to go see the president, You hear her and the guard, and he's like, making her walk. You know, And, you know, he's not even going down the stairs like she got shot! You're daughter got shot! And he's like, "Bring your ass. The president wants to see you."

Dan [00:11:20] So this. This connects to what you're talking about. So there's a part later where they're in the house. She has returned. From being kidnaped. He's. He's talking to, like, his coconspirators. And he says something. I had an I had the note down here somewhere. Like, he basically is. Oh, no. He says, "By tomorrow night, I can issue pardons all around." And he's there's like, it's not like he's just there by himself. Right. Like there's other.

James [00:11:46] People in the house and he just like and that's and I'm like, you know what? I know you want to kind of like give a reveal to a character so they kind of know what's going on, but they're just so blatant and so dumb on his part. I mean, at this point, it doesn't matter, though. So it's so in the show, if they did that early in the show, I might have been like, you know what, I'm not watching this. It's just too blatant. But like, because you're so deep into the show is so invested in like, okay.

Dan [00:12:15] And then in order for him to know that she overheard him, she she goes to walk up the steps and she like brushes against the banister and leaves like a bloody mark. But this isn't like, just to be clear, this is not like she they just got her from the... like she's already been seen by a doctor. They've set up a hospital bed in her room. If she's bleeding that much she's going to die.

James [00:12:39] Like what's going on, right? Why is she's been home for hours. She's been see like you say, to see a doctor. So you leave a trail of blood. Everything is supposed to be seen by like, I mean, this is the vice president's daughter, so I assume this is a top medical professional and that she's been seen by.

Dan [00:13:00] Another thing just to get at the goofiness of it. And I think it's like you said. I think that the people making the show are fully aware of all this because at a certain point, I wrote this note down in my notes. I said they could start throwing in twin brothers back from the dead. They might as well. And then in episode eight a crucial part of the plot is Peter goes, "They murdered the wrong twin."

James [00:13:24] Yes. And then I remember watching it and and we're like, what is going on? And my wife said, "It better not be a twin." And I'm like, "Oh, I think that's what it is." It was.

Dan [00:13:38] Right. But this is the part of the show. And so then one thing I want to touch on that's sort of the opposite of this. So also in episode Seven. The whole show, we've been building up Peter and Rose and this romance between them. Which is I think genuine, which I think is. Well, I bought into it. In terms of like their bonding through trauma. It makes logical sense that, okay, they're going to hook up at some point. We know that's.

James [00:14:04] Going to be okay. Okay. I just didn't get the serious romantic vibe from it.

Dan [00:14:10] Yeah. Here, here's my pitch on that. Right. Because what happens is. Okay, we've been building up the whole show. At some point they're going to get together. And then it is the most chaste. Like it's like a pure flix like Jesus movie. I produced a lot of faith based movies. It's it would have been appropriate for a Faith based movie. That's how chaste their moment is. And I was baffled by that because it's on Netflix. It's not like they need to make it so squeaky clean like that.

James [00:14:40] It was it had no impact. In fact, I almost forgot that they actually hooked up.

Dan [00:14:45] And so this is my sort of fan-fiction pitch of this. And and I think it relates to I was saying about Jack Reacher, the Amazon show, So Amazon does Jack Reacher and they're like, "Hey man, it's on Amazon." We're going to have, like at one point there's a guy that is castrated and his he's we see him like full frontal that he's been castrated and that his and we find out that his dick has been put into his mouth for... some some crazy thing like that in general.

James [00:15:11] Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right I forgot about that.

Dan [00:15:13] And, and so my pitch is if I was doing it and the other reason I say this again is because you're on Netflix, you can do it without it being pornographic. I'm not suggesting that it needs to be, like, you know, explicit in that way. But if you had it where, you know, we see them there in the bed on the boat, you know, they're sort of holding each other, They're naked. And it's as she asks him, you know, if it's going to be okay and he says it will be okay. And then at the end of the same episode, right now, it it ends with they're both face down on the dock getting arrested. And he tells her it's going to be okay. Right. So if you did something like that, I think it would have that romantic charge. You know, the vice president, his daughter is like, no problem to be cruel to a five year old. But for whatever reason, they were real tame about this.

James [00:16:10] This there was like there was there was more. There was, like, more heat between... the assassins.

Dan [00:16:19] Well, those two. I thought you were going to say there was more heat between the vice president and his daughter.

James [00:16:23] Right. Well, hey, let's assume this is somewhat of a family show, so I don't want to take you there.

Dan [00:16:30] But, I mean, their their relationship was really weird and. Yeah, kind of uncomfortable at times.

James [00:16:35] Yeah, the whole the whole baby thing. But, like, let's have a baby, but not really have a baby. Still a baby. I thought that was really weird. Yeah, with the assassins. I just didn't. And then I didn't get that at all. And I got it, but I didn't want to get it.

Dan [00:16:51] I also wrote down "Rose Larkin. Top five TV girlfriend of all time." And the reason I wrote that is at every at every turn of the plot, there's a moment where she shows that she's like, Ride or die. Like in the first episode, she casually robs some people. Oh, yeah. And then as as it goes along, she stabs people. She pushes people off of cranes. She's like, She's down for whatever.

James [00:17:18] I would say that she is ride-or-die, but not as effectively ride or die until she pushes those. That's not too great because like when when he gets in the fight with the assassin now by the water and she's hitting him with the stick, the large stick, hit him more than once. She might hit him once again, like wait in line. No, no, no. Wear his ass out with that thing. That's it. Because your boy really is about to get killed.

Dan [00:17:48] She has ride-or-die intentions.

James [00:17:50] Yes.

Dan [00:17:51] Can't always deliver on them.

James [00:17:53] That's true. I mean, I know it's new to her. She's like she's a she's a she's a tech tech girl. If I can say that.

Dan [00:18:02] I. I think we should at least mention also Gabriel Basso, who plays the lead, who has a really tough part. Right. Because he has to be earnest, kind of square jawed, straight leading man. And that's not an easy thing to do as an actor because you're sort of handcuffed. There's really not you're not playing character beats. You're sort of playing straight down the middle. And I thought he did a really good job.

James [00:18:24] Yeah, I think he I think he was the Jack Ryan. So let me. Yeah, because Jack is real. Jack Ryan is really like, down the middle. But like, it's this is more like what he does than what he says or how he acts that that defines the Jack Ryan character. Like he's really saying, like he's straight down a little bit like he will go left with, you know and I think the best of Sutherland. That was his character's name. Peter Sutherland. I feel like Peter had had that same same kind of it seemed like a, you know, kind of straight down the line, straight shooter kind of guy. And it wasn't he was honest and he cared about people. But like, hey, when it's when it was time to, like, do what he had to do when he felt he had do the right thing, he was going to do it. And sometimes it was a bad decision. And it worked out in the end.

Dan [00:19:12] Yeah, he has a part at the end. I think he's holding a gun to the president's head. And he says, Oh, he says.

James [00:19:19] Hey, see what was there?

Dan [00:19:23] He says, "I love my country."

Dan [00:19:25] And he really sold me. I was I was like, I was like.

James [00:19:27] I believe.

Dan [00:19:28] The USA. Yeah.

James [00:19:30] I believed it. I was just I was like, How did we get here?

Dan [00:19:34] I want to talk about, yes, it's episode nine, so it's the build up to that. They introduce this plot device where... So let's say you and I have now spoken one time, right? Yeah, I've heard your voice one time. If you if you call me on the phone tomorrow and it's a different person speaking, I will know it's not you. Yeah. Now, in this show, multiple times, they do this thing where it's like they pick up a walkie talkie. If some guy they just punched out or whatever, or they answer the phone for like some other person. And they just talk like they're the person. And nobody on the other end is like, "Hey, Bob, I know it's not you, Bob. I know your voice."

James [00:20:12] Right. Well, until the. The CEO, the Blackwater CEO kind of guy. It took him a minute to figure out they're like, oh, wait, this is not her. Even though this woman has a foreign accent. It's the first time somebody doesn't speak with that, actually. You should know this is not her.

Dan [00:20:35] That's that was like to use like.

James [00:20:37] Three or four responses was like, oh, wait a minute, maybe this is the Ava or whatever her name was.

Dan [00:20:42] Imagine you like a person that you work with at your job that you talk to pretty regularly like calls you. You would know instantly the first word that they say you would know.

James [00:20:53] "Who the hell is this because this is not so-and-so." That would be my response.

Dan [00:21:02] I do want to give them. So we've we've obviously again, I want to be clear, first of all, in the very unlikely event that Shawn Ryan ever listens to this, I want to be clear that I do like the show.

James [00:21:14] And I really I really like it, this is a reason why I said I would watch another season. I do like this show, but this show is crazy. This show does a lot of things like genre wise that are just like because like, this is where I kind of feel like they know that me. A lot of shows do this. I feel he got a little bit of layers and a little bit of that. He's typically on, you know, he got a little bit of like that action is very Olympus Has Fallen because action is crazy and it's like nobody really like they're blowing things up and like major explosions where people are very close proximity and they're not dying. That's true. Yeah. The subway explosion with the little girl. There's no way they should have survived it. But when when they didn't, I said, oh, I thought they were going to kill a little girl at the beginning. I'm like, Oh, is serious. They're killing kids. And like, she gets up, I'm like, I'm okay. I'm like, Oh shit.

Dan [00:22:07] There's a part in. I think it's the last episode where like a house blows up. And I was like, I 1,000% thought that multiple characters were in there who then were alive.

James [00:22:18] And it just... alive. I'm just like, Oh, we're just doing explosives for a fact, you know, just like for the drama of it, but not like the actual you were killing characters off. So I'm like, okay, guys, I see what we're doing here. We're going because because the Olympias father, mother was a very much like that. Gerard Butler's character in that movie should have died like in the first 15 minutes of those movies. And he somehow survived this harrowing shoot, like gigantic shootouts, him against 20 guys, massive explosions getting dropped out of stuff. Oh, for example, come on. The hotel thing with Peter and Rose, were they, like, fall? I asked the hotel to go through the glass and hit the concrete and they jumped right back up. What?

Dan [00:23:06] Yeah. It's great. I love it.

James [00:23:08] I love it, though. I know I'm not going to lie.

Dan [00:23:10] I want to you know, I do want to give them credit that at the end we find out that Peter's dad legitimately was a traitor, that it wasn't like some sort of thing where it was like, oh, it was just a misunderstanding. Like he was legit, a traitor. And I thought that.

James [00:23:25] But it was for a reason, though.

Dan [00:23:26] Well, I mean, they they sort of they, they, they made it a little softer in the sense that, you know, they tell him at the end he was going to become a double agent, blah, blah, blah. But it was clear that he did something wrong. They did not he was not an innocent. And I was glad that they didn't pull back on that.

James [00:23:43] Right. Because I kind of feel like he he took the money and then something worse happened than he thought. But then they started to use that against whoever it was. And like he like he started off as a kind of the villain and kind of became a hero. Well, he didn't get a chance to become a hero because they killed him, basically. But that was their little throughline. And I like that that was kind of sitting there the whole time. Yeah. Like they and they what kind of way? It made his way to the end. I like that part. I want to say something about what I just said. A stroke of a compliment. I feel like the structure in the pacing was really good.

Dan [00:24:18] I was going to talk about that. Yeah.

James [00:24:19] Yeah. I feel like, you know, like the way like, structure wise, the way the story was told. I like how they whoever was kind of gonna be the focus of that episode got the got a backstory scene at the very beginning to kind of because we got because they know we got all these unanswered questions so they're saying oh, we know you've got a question about Peter here. And again, the episode has a flashback. Come on in. We know you've got a question about dying for Oh, here we go. Here's here's his answer in a flashback. So I really like that. And just like giving you just enough and moving along just a great pace so you don't get bored or you don't feel like you know is right. They did a really good job with that part.

Dan [00:24:59] Yeah. And I equate it to like if you watch like one of the Jason Bourne movies and there's a character that's interesting, like I remember in the first one, Clive Owen, before he dies, he says, you know, do you get headaches? I get I get really bad headaches too, to Jason Bourne. And you're like, Wow, what an interesting character. And like, it's almost like this show is like, what if you got to spend 10 minutes alone with that guy and learn about his life before Jason Bourne has to kill him? You can't. You would care more about him. You'd be know more about him. And so the structure of it is it's really I mean, this could have easily been a two hour movie, but what they did is they take characters.

James [00:25:37] That would have been it would have been like it would have been terrible, though, to try to stuff all that into 2 hours. No way.

Dan [00:25:44] And I think that's why it works is because it has the space that every one of the major characters we know enough about their backstory to understand their motivation, to understand who they are. And so it is satisfying in that way because you really get to know everybody.

James [00:25:59] They knew it did a good job of like, Yeah, I don't really feel like. I feel like almost all the characters got enough backstory on them that I kind of like most them, like maybe a few people, but for the most part I thought so. I tell you one thing because it shows try to throw you up. I make make you think that one guy is the villain, but he's really not the Robert Patrick character because, you know, he was great. He was gruff and just like a complete asshole. You know, my wife's following for she's like, Oh, he's the bad guy. I'm like, No, no, no, no, no, no. The guy who acts like that is never the bad guy. He's probably a good guy. He just he's just an ass, you know? And then, of course, you know, it turns out the way it turns out.

Dan [00:26:42] The second that Diane Farr gives a speech next to the lion, I was like, This is way too weird for it to just be like a piece of window dressing. Like, I pretty much pegged her at that point, but they did a good job throwing me off the trail. And then by the time I circled back, it was still surprising.

James [00:26:58] I kind of I kind of called her like a couple episodes in. I didn't I didn't have I didn't know how or what I just said. I just had to trust her. I just didn't trust her. So I don't trust her. Yeah, it just something about it. I don't know. Trust. She was just too cool. Like, she was really, really cool and really, really Even until things started going sideways. If she had to, like, cuss out the. The vice president and know I'm sorry, kind of a guy like being it kind of she kind of like started losing it and she was starting custody and all that. I thought that was I liked the way they did that.

Dan [00:27:32] I thought that was hilarious. Like she really dropped it to, like a different.

James [00:27:37] Oh, yeah, It.

Dan [00:27:38] Was like a street argument.

James [00:27:40] Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was so cool beforehand. Like, way too cool for my I'm a this woman here and we've got a major crisis going on and this lady is just like, Oh, okay, well, you know, come on in. And hey, if you got the cards, I bring that with you too. You know, I'm just like, wait a. Casual. Yeah.

Dan [00:28:00] And then I just wanted to know that.

James [00:28:01] We could go on and on. I mean, there's so much going on in the show.

Dan [00:28:04] I just want to talk about the ending as we sort of wrap up here. So we see it's like the sun is setting. Rose is like sitting on the hood of a jeep or something, like there's a jet on the runway. It becomes like Americana porn, like they should have had Springsteen playing. It was like it was like Top Gun Maverick all of a sudden. And, you know, it's like, this guy's a real patriot. And I do think that there's a real vein you can tap into with that. Like people. Like even. Me. I mean, like, I totally am susceptible to that. If you sort of put it in the right delivery system. Part of why Top Gun Maverick works. I think it's part of why this show works because this guy is a real patriot. And at the end, again, it's it's it's literally almost like "Team America, World Police." Like America. Like, f**k yeah. I think. It's it's, it's so it's so patriotic. At the end the way it kind of sends you out.

James [00:28:54] But why did you just leave it behind like, oh, I'll talk to you when I talk to you. Like, I mean, she's already proven her mettle, like, get her a job. You guys can work as a team. Probably. She's obviously has the tech skills, you know, to be an asset, like get her a job and just leave her sitting in the car.

Dan [00:29:11] I almost wonder if like a James Bond thing where it's like, you know, James Bond, there was always a different love interest in every you know.

James [00:29:18] And I'm sure that's probably where it's going. But I thought their roles, their roles are better. That's all I'm saying.

Dan [00:29:23] Saying. Yeah, he did Rose dirty at the end there. Yeah.

James [00:29:28] I enjoyed this show. I know I said a lot of things that were crazy and wrong or whatever, but like, overall, they had me pretty much from the first episode. I was engaged the whole time. I couldn't wait to see the next episode, you know? So. Good job, guys. Let's do it again.

Dan [00:29:48] I would say it's a rare situation where the flaws of the show are equally the reason that I enjoyed watching it as the strengths of the show.

James [00:29:55] Yes, but that's not unusual for me. There are there are movies and shows that I know are highly flawed. But I mean, I love it sometimes. The sometimes the bad makes the the good better.

Dan [00:30:13] James, thank you so much for coming on the show.

James [00:30:15] Oh, man. It's a pleasure. May I appreciate it. Because like I said, I'm just a guy that really enjoys this stuff and I appreciate the opportunity to come on your show. You know, I listen to the podcast every episode it comes out. I really enjoy it, man. And like, I really I feel like like maybe we were related in another life because our our tastes are very similar and I feel like our perspectives on these things match up. Like, weirdly, the same.

Dan [00:30:41] This is one of the great joys of doing a show like this is that, yeah, there are people where it's like we just for whatever reason have the same taste. And so it's kind of cool to be all bounce off each other with that kind of stuff. So thanks again for coming on the show, man. For the listeners, that's the show for today. Thank you for listening. Until next time, bye bye.