My post on Monday posing the question as to how we get more young people at school engaged in Net Zero and decarbonisation threw up some really interesting points and thank you - I will be following up with everyone who made contact. The issues raised were; 1 How do we make trades cool again During the 80s and particularly the 90s there was a push to get as many young people into University as possible. Schools were given targets to ensure pupils attained the qualifications necessary to get into Uni. Younger people going to an apprenticeship were often those who “couldn’t make it into Uni”. How can we collectively change this? How can we have schools incentivised to encourage young people into Apprenticeships with all the benefits that bring to the young person and the economy. At the moment we are churning out over qualified young people who are disappointed by their destination in the world of work - are we miss-selling degrees to some young people? How do we change the minds of two generations of parents who were conditioned at school to “get into Uni” and for them to understand the value of vocational training? 2 How do we join everything up? At the moment we have multiple agencies which are looking for access to young people to encourage them to join their company or industry. Some charge employers to do this, some do it very locally, some are funded by Govenment, some are individuals who want to do the right thing. Schools and teachers are confused in many cases by this cluttered landscape and we still haven’t got this right. It’s better, but it’s still not joined up. 3 How do we get consistency of content and messaging into classrooms As there are many actors competing for face time with pupils and many of these initiatives are ad hoc and very local, how do we ensure the quality and consistency of messaging and curriculum content into classrooms All of the initiatives we see around our schools are pushing us in the right direction but the big question is how do we achieve more collaboration and less competition? How can The Scottish Government build on the excellent work it has done with Developing the Young Workforce and the Scottish Apprenticeship Advisory Board and Excerate and pull together all of the disconnected but effective hard work that we see across Scotland? How do we join all of this up and who will do this?
Hi Steve, I believe you're missing the real point. An apprenticeship consists of two things: the apprentice & the employer. It's not young people who need incentivised it's employers. Hundreds of thousands of young people signed up to plumbing courses when I was teaching They were let down. They quickly learned there were not enough apprenticeship places. I've had parents crying in front of me and trying to coerce me to start up a plumbing company to take on their child so that they can complete an on-site portfolio to obtain an NVQ. You will know from your research that when Jessop founded the NVQ system in this country it meant everyone could now go to college to study a trade. When you and I went to college that was not the case. Only apprentices went to college either on day or block release or a mix of both. In 2011 the sector skills body along with trade union Unite approached the Department for Education with concerns of over supply of pupils in college on the plumbing course. I believe the Association of Colleges overturned this. As bums on seats = funding. You are perpetuating the wrong narrative Duncan Smith Mat Ilic Barry Sharp Emma Bohan Joe Sharpe Neil Collishaw (Eng Tech, MCIPHE) Michael Costain
Steve, spot on with your points, but let’s be honest, until we align apprenticeships with the skills the UK actually needs, we’re just spinning our wheels. 83% of UK businesses are facing serious skills shortages, especially in tech and green industries. Apprenticeships aren’t a fallback, they’re a powerful solution we’re underusing. It’s time we step up. We need genuine partnerships between industry and education to make apprenticeships the go-to option for young talent. We’re not just talking about plugging gaps; we’re talking about future-proofing our economy.
Very interested to work on the solution for this. Would be good to have a discussion as I’m working on some parts of the picture at the moment.
Great post, Steve. We've been exploring strategies for this in the Midlands, piloting careers engagement brochures linking trades to net zero, with lesson plans and other items through the Midlands Net Zero Hub Regional Retrofit Skills fund, which Ryan Callanan has been kindly supporting on the employer side. Would be great to discuss soon
Your post really resonated with me. We need a model that represents all parties. Children, Business, Government and Communities With the right education, curriculum, and integrated green learning, children will learn to pursue purpose alongside a paycheck. BUT “Where’s the money coming from to make these changes?” Asking schools for funds is unrealistic. Government funding lacks consistency. Businesses should lead. Many businesses already contribute, but these efforts are often ad-hoc. Businesses should view the education sector as a strategic investment and there are many benefits to be had. Green learning adds an emotional element, enriching the educational experience. Children today grow up with climate change, often seeing only the problems. Imagine the impact when lessons become meaningful and tangible. The inspiration for these lessons comes from the stories, innovations, and solutions of businesses What businesses see as product development, children see as hope. We must leverage and re-engineer them into the classroom and align them with the curriculum to connect theory with practical, real-world applications. I would love to discuss and attached a case study for you bit.ly/GenCdentsu. bit.ly/GenCOctopus
Great question and one I am pondering a lot with our Exec and board at the moment. As you say, there are so many organisations out there....collaboration has to be the key, but who drives making this happen? At EDT (The Engineering Development Trust) we strive to make this happen, helping young people make their own informed decisions about Apps or Uni, and love it when companies and organisation work together for greatest benefit? But who leads...is it an "employer lead" with a passion or government to drive? Are we forever fighting with a curriculum and teachers exhausted to not know where to turn? What intervention is needed (urgently) to enable better work readiness as many businesses see young people not ready even if they decide to do Apps, a critical issue at the moment. We need to sit in a room, competitive hats left outside, and solve together. I do believe this is possible.
Steve, a very interesting read. Having been involved in the vocational qualification (VQ) landscape for nearly 25 years, I’ve seen firsthand the potential in young people—what needs to evolve is the approach, structure, and opportunities within the sector to fully harness that talent. With around 18,000 students studying construction in Scottish colleges each year, many eager to move into full-time employment, there’s a great opportunity to better align employers' needs with education. By strengthening this connection, we can create a more dynamic, skilled workforce that meets the demands of the future.
Good question and for me the changing face of the industry and how we build things is changing and roles in tech, automation, robotics and the “potential” the industry have could be communicated in the classrooms from an early age in the same way a Doctor/Lawyer/Accountat is…. Making sure we join this up and don’t Silo it is a hard one hence why early education, that in its self for most is consistent can play a huge role in helping people into the industry at a time when it has never been more exciting … how we transform how we build things will play a huge part in the future success and health of planet earth … thats a cool thing to be involved in !!!
Stevie, Let’s get back to basics. Most kids when the grow up will buy a property or rent it. So a few trades that they may need would be Joiner, Painter and Plumber. Simple practical skills that Schools could add to the curriculum could be fitting a lock, skirting and hanging a Door. They could then paint the door and possibly wallpaper a wall. Next could be a plumbing task of connecting a toilet or a bath. For many years I’ve said that trade skills are practical skills that we all should have. Let’s start with introducing into our schools and allow kids to see the benefits of a trade in construction.
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2moProfessor Steve Petrie There are many aspects to this issue. As Nathan Gambling infers, there are 3 parties involved in providing P&H vocational studies, all with differing requirements and expectations that are mismatched. The student who takes up the course assumes it will lead to an apprenticeship, the college needs to fill spaces to obtain the funding to deliver courses and the local employer base that may not be in a position to engage the apprentice numbers. Students often take up the introductory L1 course assuming that an apprenticeship will be available, often to find at L2 stage they will need to find an employer willing to take them on. The college will assist but there is typically a very small pool of employers taking on apprentices. If the student does secure a place with an employer but that employer later lets them go, then they need to find another to continue as the NVQ requires the employer ‘work based training’ aspect. Employers are typically SME’s, often lacking in the financial strength to support an apprenticeship scheme. Apprentices require time and patience to develop the skills and can be a financial strain, particularly in the first year. The focus should be on skills learnt rather than the process.