I talked with Tor Nørretranders about the ideas in his 1991 book *The User Illusion: Cutting Consciousness Down to Size.* We discussed the dialogue between Niels Bohr and Albert Einstein, defining consciousness, primary vs extended consciousness, the origins of the user illusion in computer interface design, the mind as an attempt to create a relevant myth, measuring the human mind in terms of information theory, consciousness as a story of reduction & compression, the physics of information, Maxwell’s demon, I & me, Benjamin Libet’s experiments on the delay of consciousness, being the spectator of our own acts, delayed auditory feedback, the veto theory, moving free will to the “me,” Robert Sapolsky’s arguments against free will, the reality of emergence, exformation, a simple translation of The Iliad, Julian Jaynes’s theory of the origins of consciousness, why modern lives have less information, the problem with a subtractive approach to happiness, and much more.
Really enjoyed this episode Jim and Tor. This deeper thinking and the definition of consciousness was a big deep breath of fresh air.
Director, Billy Financial Services
6moIs there isomorphism here with Stuart Kauffman - black holes equating to the hard work of forgetting; an energy sink, with some escaping knowledge?