I I think the hard conversations begin days, weeks, months, maybe even years before the hard conversation begins with setting expectations. Fair, clearly communicated expectations with feedback. Once you get to what people would call the hard conversation. Nothing should be a surprise to anybody. And that's where I've really become more comfortable with it. So understanding that you've got to be fair and, and expressing your expectations of whoever you're working with and and then if they get off track, work to get them on track, give them feedback. And then if it's a, you know, baseball jargon, 3 strikes, you're out. So if you give them those, those first two strikes, you could try to get them refocused. The third strike that they're that tough conversation isn't really that hard as it turns out. It's just you're the one that has to share the news. So hard conversations to me, I think again, long, long, long before the conversation was had. A hard conversation is just the end of the inevitable. If you've been fair along the way, both sides know what's coming.