A few hot outbound prospecting takes on this crisp and cool Thursday from a full-cycle AE: 1. I do not really use sequences/cadences anymore for my outbound, I use manual emails and follow up tasks.. It doesn't take me more than 3-4 touches to get a response. Cadence/sequence simply keeps me organized and so things don't slip through the cracks. 2. I also think the idea of needing "12-14" touches to get a response is absurd. This is a lie you were sold on and forced you to do "outreach at scale with automation" *if your messaging was relevant and problem focused, it wouldn't take you that many touches to get a response* 3. I also think most people use sequences/cadences as a crutch and end up forgetting to complete their later stage tasks any way 4. Automation in sequences/cadences rarely works anymore 5. And lastly, you can get a response on the first few touches if you: a.) Understand prospects do not care about your featues but do care if you can help them solve a problem b.) Understand prospects only care about personalization if it's relevant in context to the problem you can help them solve (aka a trigger) c.) Understand and empathize with how much spam your prospects get and be thoughtful in how you reach out to them d.) Stop listening to everyone else's advice and A/B test to find what works for you. (like me using manual emails and not sequences :) ) That's all. Thank you. 🔥
Anthony Natoli Your points are totally dependent on the company you work for, and if it has recognition. If you work at a well known SaaS company, then yes, your points all make sense. If you work at a series A or pre-seed start up that no one has heard of, it does take 10+ touchpoints and you do need automation to get your message out at scale. That being your final points about understanding your prospects, empathizing with them, and truly being able to solve their problems does apply in all cases
HUGE fan of this. I’ve removed automatic stages of any outreach entirely. Do you segment your multichannel outreach?
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PREACH! Love this man. Well put. Often times the "sequences/workflows/playbooks" get derailed. I think tasks should be used for "must do today". I always build process to come back to answer the question "if I only have 2 hours in my CRM where is the most important places I need to spend my time?" Tasks can conflate high and low priority tasks and create problems. I love creating stage based views in crms with last activity date views is way more useful to make sure things don't slip through the cracks. BTW the views have a filter (if there is no open task). Open tasks supersede everything else. "Play the man not the cards."
I definitely see where you're coming from. While I do believe sequences can help keep things organized, I totally agree that they shouldn't be a crutch. The whole "12-14 touches" thing has always felt like more of a number-based strategy than a quality-based one. If the outreach is targeted and problem-focused, you’re right—it shouldn’t take that many touches to get a response.
This ☝
The 12-14 touch myth is just that—a myth. If your outreach isn’t getting a response by the 3rd or 4th touch, your messaging isn’t hitting the mark.
Challenging traditional methods. Manual steps, precision over automation. Less is more in touchpoints. Tailored, problem-focused messaging. Personalization with purpose. Empathy in outreach. Tried and true vs. new hype. What's your experience with these strategies?
Automation’s great until it feels like you’re just adding to the noise. Manual focused outreach for the win!!
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