The case against investing in term deposits. Over many years, I have had a client base of organisations that generally love investing in term deposits, alongside investments in other asset classes. It's not hard to see why, given the attraction of the near certainty of the return of capital, clear returns and known repayment timeframes. But it's always good to test the counterargument for any investment thesis. (What follows is not investment advice but I hope it successfully challenges the idea that term deposit investing is “simple”.) Here are four disadvantages of investing in term deposits. Comparing the differing break terms across the providers takes substantial effort. (And then there is the the 31-day rule.) Setup/ AML/KYC requirements for deposits vary by bank. Whether this is a sign of competition or a way to protect market share is open for debate. But its effect on the people setting up banking relationships, say the staff at a charity, is clear: they generally do not deal with many banks in part because of all the time it can take. There may be over 80 ADIs taking money in Australia (i.e. ignoring subsidiaries and brands), but I have never seen a client invest with (say) ten of them. A third issue, which flows from the substantial time it can take to set up a new banking relationship, is that the opportunity cost of sticking with your incumbent providers can be significant, especially if no attempt is made to estimate it. Finally, term deposits are a challenging asset class because of the lack of a readily available and appropriate benchmark. This is largely due to the actual rates being offered to clients being significantly driven by the size of the proposed deposit and the nature of the depositor. #investing #banks Pieter K.
Andrew Frankling, CFA Trust you are well. You have provided an excellent argument and rationale why this must be fixed. Some observations: -The issues you mention is in my opinion a tactic by the banks to source cheap deposits (funding). Banks/regulators have enabled this inefficiency to thrive for so many years because it suited them. -Initiatives like open-banking and connect-id must be accelerated and expanded to hopefully in the future make the whole open account/ KYC issue much easier. -As you mention, when bank spreads are as material as they are, the cost/benefit equation should be the guideline in justifying the investment decision (is the additional interest worth the cost of doing it) also remembering the “best interest” principle. -The bigger issue for me is that by not doing anything, we concede the unequal playing field that exists between banks and their clients and cause a loss of income to organisations who need it most, e.g NFP. So it must be fixed for societal and systemic reasons!! -PS: There are price discovery tool available.
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2moI like to take a stab here. #1 - It is an effort if you are thinking of breaking which does not make sense to put in a TD. What is more difficult is bank make it hard for me to change my maturity instructions by only allowing me to change within a few days to maturity which I often forget. In short banks are working on ways to keep your money with them at least cost to them. #2. AML/KYC been implemented long ago, most would be aware of this unless one never had any relationship with any bank before. For example someone coming from the airport with two sack of cash would find it very difficult to open a bank account or even a crypto account in Oz now. #3. I have very little interaction with my bank as I do everything online despite having a personal private banking services. They change these manager from time to time too. Retail Banking services today is common across the board only difference is the % interest. Some banks try to be different like offer advice on expenses savings plans etc but bottom line is to try to keep your money there as best they could. #4 I would not say that. I know one can compare to Treasury, Bonds etc. I use SGOV (ETF) for Treasury instead of putting in a term deposit, there is an expense ratio.