May 8, 2024 • 37 mins
Today on Golden Hour, Kathy and Susan are joined by fellow Golden woman Joan, who opens up about dating, dealbreakers and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
And today we have such a special guest Kathy and
I love her.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's our friend and our Golden sister. Joan. Hi, Joan,
thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey, Joan, I'm.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
So happy to be here with you. Guys. I haven't
seen you in eons.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, it feels like forever I saw you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We saw you at Oh yeah, Family Feud, Family Feud,
celebrity family feud.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Doesn't it feel like like two months ago?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
It does? I swear When you said family feud, I
was like, oh yeah, oh yeah, its like life is
so busy now. I know the same for you guys
that like weeks just fly by and like you can
it's life is going to pass right now.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's so true. Ways did you think of family feud?
Did you have fun?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
That was so fun? What an experience just to even
be on a game show, which is like, is a
little bit of a fear of mine that I'm gonna
do something stupid or whatever. But once we were dying,
like I really could take it all in and so
enjoyed it. And like, what like another first thing, you know,
another first that I've done at the age of sixty
one that never thought I would do.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
How different was it, Joan?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
How different was it watching it and being on it?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Oh gosh. So First of all, Steve Harvey is hilarious.
He does a stand up comedy routine every time, like
cameras are not rolling, the audience is in for such
a treatment. Who knew that there was like this whole
other element of comedy going on when you're not when
the TV is not rolling, so he's funny on TV.
(02:36):
He's hilarious in his person Yeah, okay, I love him.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I absolutely love him, and I love his teeth.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I got you do. I think I think our questions
are really hard, harder than the ones like I practiced
a little bit every once in a while, I turn
it on try to answer some questions. I thought ours
were a lot harder.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You know, I was under the impression for the celebrity
family feud they would give easier qui.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And so we don't appear like I think they were
hard too.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Ours were hard. I was like, oh my god. Every
time they said a question, I was like, oh, I'm
gonna look so stupid. I have no answer.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, Joan, I can tell you this. I love watching
you on TikTok. I mean, you go viral.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You are superb out there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
How does it feel watching yourself and being so recognized
by everybody?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's so weird. I don't think I haven't done a
ton of tiktoks lately. I did a lot of cooking ones,
and for some reason that was what became popular, which
was great because it's what I like to do more
than doing the goofy ones where I feel stupid. I
like doing that, like the fashion ones a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Those are a lot of you're good at the fashion
walk cats.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, Joan.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Let me just say, first of all, I don't cook
as most people now, so watching you cook was one thing.
But I barely can get dressed in the morning watching
you change sixteen outfits. I know it's like the magic
of camera, but I was like, oh my god, was
exhausted watching you do it.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And well, that's not true. I only put on ones
that a good end. So but I have to give
all the credit to my daughter because she does all
of Like I put the outfits on, and then she
does all the great stuff to make them, you know,
to do the transitions and stuff. It's all about the transitions. Really.
The outfits are good. The transitions that are original and
fun make it a popular video.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, And does she help you with what's trending and
things like that when you she does.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I have her and then two daughter, two girls that
my daughters grew up with. So I have like a
group of my two daughters plus these other two girls
that they grew up with that are totally into all
of this. Love it all, love the bachelor love like
they you know, they're millennials. They love to talk and
they love you know, Instagram, so they tell me what's
going on. I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
We have, glady, and I have to come to your house.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
To get You have to come to my house because
I have these four people that are really good at it.
But I it's exhausting and it takes a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I was, I just want somebody to pick out
clothes for me and I'll get rest for myself.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's all I need.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I know, I know, you have to really be So
I did like a Zara hall, and you know, I've
done a couple of different halls, which is, by the way,
very expensive to do, and so you have to order
a lot of clothes and then you know, try them
all on. And I thought, oh, I'll word all these
clothes and then i'll you know, do the Zara Hall,
which then I'll take you know, most of them back.
Well I end up liking them. Yeah, you know, A
(05:25):
thousand dollars later, I have all these clothes that I
didn't really need, but I end up liking them and
didn't take them back. So I have to be careful
when I do tho.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So they were a marketing genius, Joan. They marketed to you, right.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm so.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I thank God for my daughter as well. But I
have to go to Virginia to do these things.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Maybe maybe your daughter and my daughter can meet at
my house kind of halfway.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then there's my daughter together.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
My daughter shops online all the time and says, I
don't know where she came from, because truly, I'm just like,
it's like a nightmare for me to have to shop.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yes, we know, Kathy up for you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I know, we know, but you've always had fabulous Thank.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You, okay, Joan, Yes, I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh no, tell me.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I want to know about dating.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Tell I knew you were going to ask them. I
was trying to come up with a good answer, and
I don't have one because dating is still hard. I
haven't figured out the formula yet. I like, I don't
love the online dating. Like I've said before, I don't
think people are super truthful. I had an online date
that I walked into the restaurant and I looked around.
(06:38):
I was meeting this man at sit at the bar
at a restaurant and have a drink. And I looked around,
and I was like, oh, I guess he's not here.
And I went and sat down and I see this
man waving from across the bar and me, and I'm
looking at us and it doesn't look like a picture.
He looks completely different. And so I just feel like
that is kind of typical of what you get when
you do online dating. So then, like, what else do
(07:00):
you do? Like, I know, I say yes to social things.
I go out a lot. I'm very social, but in
the normal everyday interaction of being out with friends and whatever,
I haven't met.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Anybody, right, are you on dating apps? Me?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Either?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
And I know, so dating that was like a full
time job. And I have a full time job. So
to stay on top of the messages and being you know,
witty and having a good like you know, repertoire with
somebody with you know, it takes a lot of time
and a lot of thought. And if you don't answer
then I think, you know, you feel like you're being
rude to them. But you're at work and.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
She still has time to shop for clothes for she's smart.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Let me ask you this, what's better about dating later
in life versus prior to your marriage?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Dating when we were really young.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
What's what's better or is so I guess like I
probably I'm probably better at judge you a person, so
I can go on probably one date and not like
be lurered by maybe they're really attractive, or you know,
maybe I think that they drove a really nice car.
(08:12):
Like those are things that probably would have met mattered
way more to me when I was younger, and those
things aren't important. You know, I want somebody who's attractive,
but I probably will give I know, I will give
them a lot more time and spend a lot more
energy trying to get to know them.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And they want a nice car too, I mean, yeah,
we want a nice car.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
That's definitely a pro.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Y so Joan.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know, it's been a while since we've been on
the show, but we've all stayed in contact. I want
to know, because Susan and I talk about this sometimes.
What are some of your favorite memories from the show.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Oh, so many good memories. Will you realize I was
only oh we know, we know. I mean every one
of the seven days was a great day, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And you're only on seven days.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I left after seven days. It was three episodes because
you know, the first episode is just the first night.
It was a real seven days was seven days, but
it was just end up three being three episodes. So
I can tell you the like turning point in the
whole thing was our first night at the mansion when
(09:18):
I was talking to everybody and I felt like I
am finally in a room with people that are like
me because I have a lot of single friends. And
I looked around, I was like, now this is what
I needed. Like I went there with a lot of fear,
and I I think I became a much braver person
because I learned from you guys. I learned that you
(09:40):
know that doing this crazy thing, putting yourself out there,
helps you grow. And so I got to say that
the best day of all was the first day I
met all of you guys.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
We feel that way? Did we love you right from
the get go.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I remember sitting on the bus with you Joan talking
about our daughters.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Man we did on the way to the other mansion
for the addressed day. Yeah, I'll remember forever that was.
And that was a really good conversation because, like you know,
we shared like pretty deep stuff really quickly into our
you know, getting to know each other.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, because both of our daughters talk about that what happened.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
So, both of our daughters had difficult pregnancies and difficult births,
and my daughter ended up, you know, everything was fine,
but she ended up having a sea section. She had
a really hard time when she came home, a little
bit of postpartum depression. And Kathy's daughter had a difficult
birth and had a sick baby for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Who's both of our section two sea.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Section also, and it was very difficult. Both of our
daughters were kind of angry at us for leaving them,
thinking that we should have stayed home, We should have
given up this incredible opportunity and stayed home with them,
and both of us consider doing that. It was really
really hard making you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Know, I didn't I did, I did.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I remember struggled with it terribly.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, wait, Joe, my daughter had her baby.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Uh, my my daughter's baby was almost three months old.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, so it was a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, my my daughter's baby was eight days old.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Baby was fine, very different.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I was just having a hard time, you know, I
just didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It was hard.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It was hard, and she had had, you know, a
high risk pregnancy, so a lot of a lot of
what a lot of leading up to the birth was
hard also, and so then the birth was hard, and
you know, and that's why I ended up having to leave.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But it was so great to be I remember being
in the limma with you and you shared you were
so worried about her, and I was like, oh my gosh,
how are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
And you're like, Susan, I haven't eaten in two weeks.
My nerves are shot, but I really want to do this.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And I held your hand and said it's gonna be good,
but you gotta eat.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You eat, but she didn't, but.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I eat. You sound like my mother, But you're right.
How funny is that? Like I literally just met you
ten minutes before, and we share these like big life
events with each other and we've continued to do that.
So I think our friendships are solidified in a really
quick way.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Do you think that's because of our age, our maturity,
like compared to the younger generation. Do you think the
girls bond as fast as we did?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Or I think we have more important conversations. They're probably
talking way more about I don't know, what do you
wear in fashion and stuff like that. You talked about
that stuff, but we talked about like we have like
a lot richer lives. Like they don't have kids, they
don't have you know, elderly parents. They don't have big
things in their lives that are like taking over their brain,
(12:42):
you know, other than you know, fashion or what beach
they're going to this summer or whatever, all great things.
You know, I wish my brain was.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know, I actually have a question for both of you.
You both have lost both of your husbands are gone.
How long afterwards do you think not only were you
ready or did you start thinking about being ready.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Kathy to go for a show.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Heck no, you got heck no.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
So I'm still thinking about it, honestly. So I decided.
So year one came and I was like, Okay, that's
not even close. There's no chance I'm dating anybody. Year
two came around and I was like, I'm not getting
any younger. And it's been two years and so you know,
I'm not getting any prettier, and ay I'm getting I'm
getting any less wrinkles. I'm not, you know. I thought,
(13:32):
I'm wasting good, valuable time, So I really need to
start dating. And I was at a restaurant with a
friend of mine and we were sitting at the bar
having dinner, and I was like, look around this place.
Everybody here is a couple. And I said, how in
the world am I going to meet somebody like it.
I spent two years since John passed away, and it's like,
I feel like it's time. I truly believe it's time,
(13:54):
but I don't know how to do it. And she's like,
You're gonna have to go to a dating app, and
I was like, oh God, I so don't want to
go to a dating app. I've looked at that there.
I just like it sounds like a lot of work,
which it is. We all know it is. So I
was right, even though I hadn't been on it. And
I came home that night, I was kind of in
like a little bit of a mood because we had
been at this restaurant that was very big and very crowded,
and every single person there was a couple. And I
(14:17):
sat down on my sofa and I turned on The Bachelor,
and it was like the universe was talking to me
because there was an ad for this new show it
is and it said fill out this form, and I
was like, well, I picked up my phone and I
filled out the form and like, here I am. But
I got to the house and the mansion and I
(14:38):
still wasn't super ready. Honestly, I was nervous. I was like,
you know, I want to be open to love, but
I'm not really sure I am, but this will be
a good experience and I'll help. And my heart opened up.
In that literally seven day period is when the switch
flipped a little bit for me. And it's still kind
of flipping. I'm kind of I.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Think you'll ever forget that feeling of lost you either, Kathy,
But you do know you're young enough and you do
want to find a partner.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
For me, it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I would say even though I did some dating, I
would say it was at least three or four.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Years, and now for me it's been five years. But
I like you, Joan.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I learned so much from being on the show and
changed a lot. But I want to know if you,
you know, if you had the chance to do another
reality show, would you do it looking for love? And
how would you do things differently?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
So I would certainly do the bachelor kind of format,
like I wouldn't do like there's certain ones that are
just too chancy for me. So I would do I
would do another bachelor type show where you actually get
to meet the person and spend the time with the person.
I would personally really love to do Bachelor of Paradise.
I feel like they spend so much more time together
(15:57):
and they have a lot more opportunity to really get
to know each other.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Joan, I'm going wait, I got to interrupt you. I
am going on record right now. I would do Bachelor
in part by Susan. You've got to agree with me.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
No, Mom, then gotta have I'm got no bikinis.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You could do a bikini Jon, no bikinis, no bugs,
and thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And then need air conditioning in my room?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Maybe a cruise. What do you think we'll do it
on a boat?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Are you ready to find love?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Joan?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I really want love. I want to have somebody in
my life. I feel like life is better when you
share it with somebody. I truly believe all of that.
As far as my heart being completely open, I think
it's nine tenths of the way there. So I think
I just need to spend a little more time in
(16:53):
like an environment like the bachelor environment. I so am not,
like I really want to find love. I just don't
want to go to the work of going on a
dating website. If there was another way to do it,
I would be open to it. I so would be
if there was like a speed dating okay, like remember
the old speed dating thing that people used to do.
I would love to try that, but I don't think
they do it anymore. Or I would love to go
(17:14):
to an event that had like a bunch of people
just like me and you guys, like men and women,
all of our age, and you just could walk around
with a glass of wine and talk to each other.
Like I feel like that's so much more natural and
you really get to know somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I also think the right one, When he is the
right one, you're gonna know it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But how do you meet somebody? Is
the well, the initial step that it seems to be.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
John, I want to know, like seriously, Susan touched on
it though, what advice would you have?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
People ask me. Since my husband passed away, people ask
me what dating advice would you give people? It's easy,
easier I think to give dating advice to people in
their twenties and thirties. But what advice would you give
to somebody you know in the or sixties in seventies
who really want to date and find someone.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
What's the best piece of advice you'd give them.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
That's a really hard one. So I believe that the
whole message from our season, the message of hope, is
probably the most important thing. So if you have hope,
then you know your next step shit needs to be action.
So I would say, you know, if you believe, if
you feel like your life would be more fulfilled if
you had a partner, like I do feel that way.
(18:29):
I feel like my life would be better if I
have a partner. And you only get one life to live,
and it's your responsibility to make the best of it.
Nobody else is going to do it for you. Then
you need to take action. And I'm you know, I
should be giving myself fame advice because I feel like
I've been so busy, I haven't taken a lot of action,
and I really do need to do that. And as
(18:49):
I sit here talking to you, like, I'm like, Okay,
I got to do something. So I think hope and
action need to be together.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And confidence. What about confidence?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Confidence? You know, I feel like I've become a lot
more confident. I don't think I was not confident in
the dating world, like I like going out meeting people.
I'm not super shy when it comes to that. But
I felt like I felt more like I deserve it now,
like I deserve having love in my life, not that
it just maybe could happen like I need. Like I
feel confident to go out and seek it out like
(19:22):
I want it. Like I said, if there was some
way other than a dating app that could get me there,
I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Over the dating apps.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So have you ever received or what's the best advice
any anybody has given you for dating?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Hmmm? Probably give everybody a chance. So don't don't say
no because of all little things. So yes, what does
it matter if you go out and somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Wait, are we talking hair on his head? Teeth in
his mouth? What are we talking hair?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, I'm not speaking about I'm okay with the ball guy.
My husband, my late husband was bold, and I thought
he was very sexy. So that's fine. Got to have
all your teeth, that's good. I want somebody who's fit.
I want somebody who takes care of themselves. I want
somebody who is active, who wants to.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Have no use to guys like you say exactly, yeah, wait,
but I want to know Joan like we both have.
All three of us have kids about the same age.
What do your kids think about you dating, continuing to
date and looking for mister Wright?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So it depends on which kid you ass. I have
four two boys, So one of my sons and one
of my daughters love this idea. So my oldest son,
so number one and number three, Nick and Ally both
love the idea of me dating. They think it's a
really good idea. They Ali is married, Nick is engaged.
Nick has said to me on more than one occasion,
(21:05):
I want you to have what we have. We have
all found love in our life for my kids, love
you are in relationships. They and he said, I want
you to have what we have. And I've always said,
I don't want to be a burden on you guys.
You know I don't want to you know, grow all alone,
and you guys think of to take care of me.
He goes, First of all, Mom, You'll never be a
burden hoist. We love being with you and my kids
(21:25):
do I think they come over here all the time.
I love being with them. They're my favorite people in
the world, and luckily they like being with me still.
But they do realize that my life would be better,
you know, if I didn't just have to rely on
them for my you know, I have lots of friends
for social interaction, but they want me to have love.
So two of them want me to. I think they
all four want me to have love. Two of them
(21:46):
are okay with me actually like doing something about it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Do you think they would be very accepted, like they'll
accept whoever it is, or do you think any of
them will be like, mom, he's not the one. Are
they opinionated like that or so?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I think it depends on like the degree, Like if
they if I was with somebody that they really thought
was not a good person or something like that, they
would tell me. Absolutely they would tell me. But I think,
you know.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Would you like.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I think I would because I think that they
have my best interest in mind, so I think I
would listen. Yeah, But I think in general they would
never say anything if they knew I liked somebody or
feelings for somebody, they would never say anything unless it
was pretty major.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And how long before you would introduce a gentleman to
your family.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, that's a good question. I have introduced one or
two guys to them.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Like where are they? I want their numbers?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Do I just so as I wasn't really ready. So
I think my kids knew that these were not long
term people. I just like I invited them over for
dinner or something. It wasn't like some like here's my family,
I want you to meet so and so, like we're
really serious. It was just like always going to come
over and watch the super Bowl with us or something.
You know, it's pretty meaningful. So I introduced them, but
(23:04):
it wasn't like this is the guy and I want
you to meet him and like, you know him be
a part of your life too.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like I know, personally, I got nervous when it was
time to meet my sons.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I was like, oh, God, are they hard on?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
They No, not not in the moment, but I'll hear
something later. Oh is that right.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
No, they didn't like them, No, they liked them.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
They just it was me, Okay, I'm gonna I got
to ask the question the elephant in the room, given
what's happened recently, Joan, if you found the guy you love,
would you move?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
So I have like a vision of how this would work,
because certainly in our age and especially with what we
just did, we just did a whole show about like,
you know, how do you meet somebody and end up
being with them? Like that was a subject certainly, and
that's it was the first thing that Gary asked me, like,
how do you if I live in you live in Maryland,
how in the world would we make that work or
(24:03):
how would you see that working? And my reply was,
and I still believe this is that you have to
have more than one home because I'm not willing to
leave my kids and my family and really my friends.
My still mother is ninety two years old, so like
I have to be here. She relies on me, so
does my mother in law. So I would not leave here.
I couldn't leave here, honestly, I would be deserting people
(24:23):
that need me. So I could envision, and that being said,
I wouldn't want a guy to leave his family for me,
because that tells me something about him. If he would
leave his family for me, then he does not have
the same kind of relationship with his family that I
have with mine, and we're not going to be compatible.
That's just not going to work.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So we're gonna have two homes.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
We have two homes and go back and forth and
then maybe have one more home. So I already have
a home.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
The way I'm available, I'm available to be a yeah
where you know.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
A vacation home where everybody needs his kids, my kids, grandchildren,
you know, where everybody would enjoy being and we could
be a big, happy family.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It is so nice of you to invite Susan and
me to come. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
When the kids aren't there, your guys are there and
if you.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Can to right, absolutely, I just got to find the
guy and then the three homes.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But that's just a detail to work.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Okay, we're going to play a little game, and this
is for all three of us. Okay, it's about relationships
and what would you rather Okay, you're ready? Oh no,
would you rather cook a fancy meal together or order
in takeout?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Oh gosh, well it probably depends on the day, So weekday,
order in take out whatever, But on a weekend, So
one of my favorite date activities is cooking with a
guy with like a couple of bottles of wine, and
some good food and some music on in the background.
Seen in the kitchen, drinking wine, having fun cooking, and
then sitting down and you know, sometimes it's eleven o'clock
(26:05):
at night by the time you get the meal done after,
you know, goofing off and playing, having a great meal.
And it's one of my favorite dates, honestly, So I'm
gonna have to do that one.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm feeling like you read my profile when I was
online dating.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Because that's exactly what I wrote it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Okay, yeah, Wait, what do you think I would do?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I know the Oh god, no fancy restaurant?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Take you out?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What do you think, Susan, you would definitely order out?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You're both wrong. I am right with Joan. If I
could find a guy who.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Would who's gonna cook with?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Who do you cook with me?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Exactly what Joan said, music, have a bottle of wine,
could do.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It with it. What I don't like is cooking by myself.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Wait a minute, I've known you how long and you're
admitting that you do know how to cook, you just
don't like to do it alone.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Wow, Joana, First, that's true.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Though, that's true.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I love it. Okay, here's another one.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Would you prefer to work out with your partner exercise
together or would you like to do that separately.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Oh, I'm an ugly exerciser. I gotta do it separately.
I want Tom in the same house as me. I like,
I sweat and I go why am I doing this?
I look terrible out any make of mind. I put
my hair back. I look awful.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Okay, this one's for me is easy. I work, as
you all know, I work out every day. I go
to the gym many days a week. And when I'm
working out, I am not chit chatting, I'm not checking
my phone. I am working out hard. So I'm going
with workout separately.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think I'd like them to be there in case
I'm doing something wrong, Like you need don't.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Bend your knees when you do that, don't your back.
You're going to get hurt.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
You.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
No, Susan's going to.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Say, Babe, lift that weight for me, please, Honey, that
off the black for me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
No.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I got a different I got a hard one for you.
John Ready, John, you know I'm bringing it. Have a
spontaneous sex life or a scheduled one?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Oh? God, so easy? Spontaneous?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I remember years ago, we had this friend, this couple friend,
and we were over at their house for dinner and
there was like maybe six couples and they were talking
about their Wednesday nights. Oh, it's scheduled every Wednesday. And
I walked out of there. I was like, these are
the weirdest people, John, We're not ever going out with
them again they scheduled.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Just wait a second, Joan, Wait a second, Susan. About you,
wait a second, Susan, you get You'll get a second here.
But when I had young kids, and I had three,
you know, you couldn't just say, hey, kids, make your
own dinner, dad, and I gonna go up and hop
in the sack. Right, So when you have young families,
sometimes you have to schedule a date night and what
comes after what comes before. So maybe at this stage
(29:05):
of life, what about you, Susan.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
When we had kids, we had to get Saturday night
or Friday night whenever the babysitter would come.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
But I like spunked in edity. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I feel like Saturday night was a given. Like you're
gonna go out, you're and drink a little bit your friends,
and you're probably gonna have sex or come home. But
I feel like, like, you know, like going to bed.
The kids are in.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Bed, and I think Joan just said she has drunk sex.
I think that's what I just heard.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I like it when I least expect it and they
get to turn you on. You know, you're not really
in the mood, but they do the right things. Yeah,
and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Okay, I gotta jump off this podcast. I gotta go
find a guy who wants.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Okay, here's a good one. Would you prefer to travel
the world together or build your dream home together?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Oh god, that's such a hard one.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I like both.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Obviously I have to pick one of those.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Wow, Okay, come on, John, that's not that hard.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's easy. At this stage of the game. We had
our dream homes, we raise kids.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You didn't have your dream home. Who cares go travel
the world? See the world.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
When I think about my dream home, I think about
my family, and I think about everybody coming together in
a beautiful, you know, a place where they all want
to be and they can all stay and enough. So
I do think family when I think dream home. I
don't just think about me. I think about like who
I can share it with but I do agree, and
that was probably my answer, is that I would rather
travel the world because the memories you make are like
(30:43):
they will last forever.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Jones, sounds like a Hallmark card. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I just love her all right.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Not like your partner's friends or have their friends not
like you. Oh God, that's awful, John't you know I'm
that asking these tough ones.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
That's a really hard one. I think I wouldn't rather
not like them, because in general I can kind of
put up with people, and like you know, you can tolerate,
I can tolerate, and I can maybe steer conversations to
things that maybe don't offend me about them, like or whatever.
(31:22):
I feel like I can manipulate an environment enough that
I could stand them if my significant other really loved
them and they were his really good friends. But I
don't think I could change the way I act for them.
I don't think I ever would. I wouldn't be willing
to do that. So I would rather not like them
and figure it out than them not like me.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And I agree with you, and i'd say, when he
wants to be with his friends, you go ahead, babe,
I'm going to go out with girls.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, right, with my friends.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, I know, I agree with all that. I got
to say, we're all through the same page on that one.
All right, what about this one, John, go to a
concert together or go to with sporting event together?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Oh gosh, that's a hard one. I love both.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
So again I'm the both girl.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
But I know these are hard because so I think
I'd rather go to a sporting event. I think that
there's more time for like social interaction with a person
when you're at a sporting event and you can you know,
you're with other people around you, and I don't know,
for some reason, a sporting event seems more interactive to
me than a concert. You're you're a viewer. At a concert,
You're you can talk still, you can eat, you can die,
(32:32):
you can walk in and have a drink, you can
come back out watch the game. There's more to do
at a sporting event with a.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Partner, And it depends on what kind of concert it
is too.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I mean, I'm just going to say the concerts I've
been to, I've been at the heavens looking at a
screen six miles away. I would have been better staying
at home and watching a sporting event you know, you
get pretty close to the basketball court or a soccer field.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean yeah, you know, there's a lot of energy
in the stadium with you. It's fun like it's just like, yeah,
I love going to sporting events.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, okay, how about this one.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Plan a surprise for your partner or be surprised.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Oh, I love to plan it. I'm a party planner.
I love to do parties. I ave planning. Nom yeah,
I'd rather And I'm not particularly good at being surprised.
I'm like a daring head white surpime surprise. I've had
one surprise party. Well, I had surprise baby shower or
bridal shower, and then I had one I think it
was my fiftieth birthday when they surprised me and I
couldn't speak for like five minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Not that you're a control or anything.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I'm laughing.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I am laughing because I graduated college many moons after
I got married, and my husband told me about my
surprise graduation party, and then he told me about my
surprise baby shower another.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Day because he couldn't hold a secret.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And the funny thing is, the funny thing is everyone
thinks that Kathy cannot keep a secret. I'm the best
secret keeper for my husband. My husband could not keep
a secret. And I used to say, Tom, this is
so not fair. Everyone thinks that you could keep a
secret and that I give away the secrets. And he
used to look at me and left, go, I know,
(34:12):
isn't it great?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So I feel like it's really difficult to surprise me
because I miss know it all and I'm very and
like you, Joan, I like to plan them, but I
think I would like to be surprised once.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I have been and I was like, I was,
like I said, I was speechless.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So that's how about you?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Would you rather plan her surprise?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Joe? I barely cook? Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
There? She goes. She's admitting, Joan, did you write that record?
Speaker 5 (34:42):
This? She keeps going back and forth on this whole
cooking day.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It depends on the guy. It depends on the guy.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
She'll think it if she's in Like, no, and I
like the guy.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm cooking for him.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay, the store and get cook. Okay we have another
one or two? Oh well this okay? Us bad date
someone who doesn't like pets, or date someone with ten pets.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I mean that's a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wait, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Before wait a minute, Joan has a dog that she
walks once a day, so let's let's go with that.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You're supposed to say that.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
But he's good that way.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So yeah, if he doesn't love, if he doesn't like pets,
I'm okay with it. I'm not getting rid of my dog.
But if he doesn't, if he doesn't come over to
my house and go make a big deal about my dog,
it's perfectly fine. I am not living in a house
or going out with somebody who's ten pets. That's pew.
I feel like that person might have maybe a little
mental issue.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I can smell it and see the hair everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
All right, guys, guys, a mad note. We That does
it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours, Old then Hour.
Thank you Jones so much for joining us. It's been grand.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
It's so fun catching up with you. And we have
to set a date for our get together. By the way,
as a matter of.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Fact, you guys, now, I'm having my out back alreaddone,
the pool, the deck, everything, So we're trying to plan something.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So I'll get you the info.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Okay, I'm on the I'll be on the text chain.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
All right.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Well.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
In the meantime, you guys, be sure to follow us
on Bachelor Happy Hour as we as you know, we
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Speaker 1 (36:31):
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Speaker 3 (36:45):
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Speaker 2 (36:50):
You listen to podcasts.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Until next time time, Take care, Hi Joan, love you guys.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Bye.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Thanks for having me, Thanks for coming
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Speaker 1 (01:05):
And today we have such a special guest Kathy and
I love her.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's our friend and our Golden sister. Joan. Hi, Joan,
thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Hey, Joan, I'm.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
So happy to be here with you. Guys. I haven't
seen you in eons.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No, it feels like forever I saw you.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We saw you at Oh yeah, Family Feud, Family Feud,
celebrity family feud.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Doesn't it feel like like two months ago?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
It does? I swear When you said family feud, I
was like, oh yeah, oh yeah, its like life is
so busy now. I know the same for you guys
that like weeks just fly by and like you can
it's life is going to pass right now.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
It's so true. Ways did you think of family feud?
Did you have fun?
Speaker 5 (01:50):
That was so fun? What an experience just to even
be on a game show, which is like, is a
little bit of a fear of mine that I'm gonna
do something stupid or whatever. But once we were dying,
like I really could take it all in and so
enjoyed it. And like, what like another first thing, you know,
another first that I've done at the age of sixty
one that never thought I would do.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
How different was it, Joan?
Speaker 3 (02:11):
How different was it watching it and being on it?
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Oh gosh. So First of all, Steve Harvey is hilarious.
He does a stand up comedy routine every time, like
cameras are not rolling, the audience is in for such
a treatment. Who knew that there was like this whole
other element of comedy going on when you're not when
the TV is not rolling, so he's funny on TV.
(02:36):
He's hilarious in his person Yeah, okay, I love him.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I absolutely love him, and I love his teeth.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I got you do. I think I think our questions
are really hard, harder than the ones like I practiced
a little bit every once in a while, I turn
it on try to answer some questions. I thought ours
were a lot harder.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You know, I was under the impression for the celebrity
family feud they would give easier qui.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And so we don't appear like I think they were
hard too.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Ours were hard. I was like, oh my god. Every
time they said a question, I was like, oh, I'm
gonna look so stupid. I have no answer.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, Joan, I can tell you this. I love watching
you on TikTok. I mean, you go viral.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
You are superb out there.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
How does it feel watching yourself and being so recognized
by everybody?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
It's so weird. I don't think I haven't done a
ton of tiktoks lately. I did a lot of cooking ones,
and for some reason that was what became popular, which
was great because it's what I like to do more
than doing the goofy ones where I feel stupid. I
like doing that, like the fashion ones a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Those are a lot of you're good at the fashion
walk cats.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, Joan.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Let me just say, first of all, I don't cook
as most people now, so watching you cook was one thing.
But I barely can get dressed in the morning watching
you change sixteen outfits. I know it's like the magic
of camera, but I was like, oh my god, was
exhausted watching you do it.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And well, that's not true. I only put on ones
that a good end. So but I have to give
all the credit to my daughter because she does all
of Like I put the outfits on, and then she
does all the great stuff to make them, you know,
to do the transitions and stuff. It's all about the transitions. Really.
The outfits are good. The transitions that are original and
fun make it a popular video.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Right, And does she help you with what's trending and
things like that when you she does.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I have her and then two daughter, two girls that
my daughters grew up with. So I have like a
group of my two daughters plus these other two girls
that they grew up with that are totally into all
of this. Love it all, love the bachelor love like
they you know, they're millennials. They love to talk and
they love you know, Instagram, so they tell me what's
going on. I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
We have, glady, and I have to come to your house.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
To get You have to come to my house because
I have these four people that are really good at it.
But I it's exhausting and it takes a long time.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And I was, I just want somebody to pick out
clothes for me and I'll get rest for myself.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
That's all I need.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
I know, I know, you have to really be So
I did like a Zara hall, and you know, I've
done a couple of different halls, which is, by the way,
very expensive to do, and so you have to order
a lot of clothes and then you know, try them
all on. And I thought, oh, I'll word all these
clothes and then i'll you know, do the Zara Hall,
which then I'll take you know, most of them back.
Well I end up liking them. Yeah, you know, A
(05:25):
thousand dollars later, I have all these clothes that I
didn't really need, but I end up liking them and
didn't take them back. So I have to be careful
when I do tho.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So they were a marketing genius, Joan. They marketed to you, right.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I'm so.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I thank God for my daughter as well. But I
have to go to Virginia to do these things.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Maybe maybe your daughter and my daughter can meet at
my house kind of halfway.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then there's my daughter together.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
My daughter shops online all the time and says, I
don't know where she came from, because truly, I'm just like,
it's like a nightmare for me to have to shop.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yes, we know, Kathy up for you.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I know, we know, but you've always had fabulous Thank.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
You, okay, Joan, Yes, I'm going to ask you.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Oh no, tell me.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I want to know about dating.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Tell I knew you were going to ask them. I
was trying to come up with a good answer, and
I don't have one because dating is still hard. I
haven't figured out the formula yet. I like, I don't
love the online dating. Like I've said before, I don't
think people are super truthful. I had an online date
that I walked into the restaurant and I looked around.
(06:38):
I was meeting this man at sit at the bar
at a restaurant and have a drink. And I looked around,
and I was like, oh, I guess he's not here.
And I went and sat down and I see this
man waving from across the bar and me, and I'm
looking at us and it doesn't look like a picture.
He looks completely different. And so I just feel like
that is kind of typical of what you get when
you do online dating. So then, like, what else do
(07:00):
you do? Like, I know, I say yes to social things.
I go out a lot. I'm very social, but in
the normal everyday interaction of being out with friends and whatever,
I haven't met.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Anybody, right, are you on dating apps? Me?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Either?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
And I know, so dating that was like a full
time job. And I have a full time job. So
to stay on top of the messages and being you know,
witty and having a good like you know, repertoire with
somebody with you know, it takes a lot of time
and a lot of thought. And if you don't answer
then I think, you know, you feel like you're being
rude to them. But you're at work and.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
She still has time to shop for clothes for she's smart.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Let me ask you this, what's better about dating later
in life versus prior to your marriage?
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Dating when we were really young.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
What's what's better or is so I guess like I
probably I'm probably better at judge you a person, so
I can go on probably one date and not like
be lurered by maybe they're really attractive, or you know,
maybe I think that they drove a really nice car.
(08:12):
Like those are things that probably would have met mattered
way more to me when I was younger, and those
things aren't important. You know, I want somebody who's attractive,
but I probably will give I know, I will give
them a lot more time and spend a lot more
energy trying to get to know them.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And they want a nice car too, I mean, yeah,
we want a nice car.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
That's definitely a pro.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Y so Joan.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know, it's been a while since we've been on
the show, but we've all stayed in contact. I want
to know, because Susan and I talk about this sometimes.
What are some of your favorite memories from the show.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Oh, so many good memories. Will you realize I was
only oh we know, we know. I mean every one
of the seven days was a great day, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And you're only on seven days.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I left after seven days. It was three episodes because
you know, the first episode is just the first night.
It was a real seven days was seven days, but
it was just end up three being three episodes. So
I can tell you the like turning point in the
whole thing was our first night at the mansion when
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I was talking to everybody and I felt like I
am finally in a room with people that are like
me because I have a lot of single friends. And
I looked around, I was like, now this is what
I needed. Like I went there with a lot of fear,
and I I think I became a much braver person
because I learned from you guys. I learned that you
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know that doing this crazy thing, putting yourself out there,
helps you grow. And so I got to say that
the best day of all was the first day I
met all of you guys.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
We feel that way? Did we love you right from
the get go.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I remember sitting on the bus with you Joan talking
about our daughters.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Man we did on the way to the other mansion
for the addressed day. Yeah, I'll remember forever that was.
And that was a really good conversation because, like you know,
we shared like pretty deep stuff really quickly into our
you know, getting to know each other.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Well, because both of our daughters talk about that what happened.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
So, both of our daughters had difficult pregnancies and difficult births,
and my daughter ended up, you know, everything was fine,
but she ended up having a sea section. She had
a really hard time when she came home, a little
bit of postpartum depression. And Kathy's daughter had a difficult
birth and had a sick baby for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Who's both of our section two sea.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Section also, and it was very difficult. Both of our
daughters were kind of angry at us for leaving them,
thinking that we should have stayed home, We should have
given up this incredible opportunity and stayed home with them,
and both of us consider doing that. It was really
really hard making you.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Know, I didn't I did, I did.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
I remember struggled with it terribly.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Well, wait, Joe, my daughter had her baby.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Uh, my my daughter's baby was almost three months old.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, so it was a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, my my daughter's baby was eight days old.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Baby was fine, very different.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
I was just having a hard time, you know, I
just didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
It was hard.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
It was hard, and she had had, you know, a
high risk pregnancy, so a lot of a lot of
what a lot of leading up to the birth was
hard also, and so then the birth was hard, and
you know, and that's why I ended up having to leave.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But it was so great to be I remember being
in the limma with you and you shared you were
so worried about her, and I was like, oh my gosh,
how are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (11:40):
And you're like, Susan, I haven't eaten in two weeks.
My nerves are shot, but I really want to do this.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And I held your hand and said it's gonna be good,
but you gotta eat.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
You eat, but she didn't, but.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
I eat. You sound like my mother, But you're right.
How funny is that? Like I literally just met you
ten minutes before, and we share these like big life
events with each other and we've continued to do that.
So I think our friendships are solidified in a really
quick way.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Do you think that's because of our age, our maturity,
like compared to the younger generation. Do you think the
girls bond as fast as we did?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Or I think we have more important conversations. They're probably
talking way more about I don't know, what do you
wear in fashion and stuff like that. You talked about
that stuff, but we talked about like we have like
a lot richer lives. Like they don't have kids, they
don't have you know, elderly parents. They don't have big
things in their lives that are like taking over their brain,
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you know, other than you know, fashion or what beach
they're going to this summer or whatever, all great things.
You know, I wish my brain was.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know, I actually have a question for both of you.
You both have lost both of your husbands are gone.
How long afterwards do you think not only were you
ready or did you start thinking about being ready.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Kathy to go for a show.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Heck no, you got heck no.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
So I'm still thinking about it, honestly. So I decided.
So year one came and I was like, Okay, that's
not even close. There's no chance I'm dating anybody. Year
two came around and I was like, I'm not getting
any younger. And it's been two years and so you know,
I'm not getting any prettier, and ay I'm getting I'm
getting any less wrinkles. I'm not, you know. I thought,
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I'm wasting good, valuable time, So I really need to
start dating. And I was at a restaurant with a
friend of mine and we were sitting at the bar
having dinner, and I was like, look around this place.
Everybody here is a couple. And I said, how in
the world am I going to meet somebody like it.
I spent two years since John passed away, and it's like,
I feel like it's time. I truly believe it's time,
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but I don't know how to do it. And she's like,
You're gonna have to go to a dating app, and
I was like, oh God, I so don't want to
go to a dating app. I've looked at that there.
I just like it sounds like a lot of work,
which it is. We all know it is. So I
was right, even though I hadn't been on it. And
I came home that night, I was kind of in
like a little bit of a mood because we had
been at this restaurant that was very big and very crowded,
and every single person there was a couple. And I
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sat down on my sofa and I turned on The Bachelor,
and it was like the universe was talking to me
because there was an ad for this new show it
is and it said fill out this form, and I
was like, well, I picked up my phone and I
filled out the form and like, here I am. But
I got to the house and the mansion and I
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still wasn't super ready. Honestly, I was nervous. I was like,
you know, I want to be open to love, but
I'm not really sure I am, but this will be
a good experience and I'll help. And my heart opened up.
In that literally seven day period is when the switch
flipped a little bit for me. And it's still kind
of flipping. I'm kind of I.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Think you'll ever forget that feeling of lost you either, Kathy,
But you do know you're young enough and you do
want to find a partner.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, So yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
For me, it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I would say even though I did some dating, I
would say it was at least three or four.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Years, and now for me it's been five years. But
I like you, Joan.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I learned so much from being on the show and
changed a lot. But I want to know if you,
you know, if you had the chance to do another
reality show, would you do it looking for love? And
how would you do things differently?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
So I would certainly do the bachelor kind of format,
like I wouldn't do like there's certain ones that are
just too chancy for me. So I would do I
would do another bachelor type show where you actually get
to meet the person and spend the time with the person.
I would personally really love to do Bachelor of Paradise.
I feel like they spend so much more time together
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and they have a lot more opportunity to really get
to know each other.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Joan, I'm going wait, I got to interrupt you. I
am going on record right now. I would do Bachelor
in part by Susan. You've got to agree with me.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
No, Mom, then gotta have I'm got no bikinis.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You could do a bikini Jon, no bikinis, no bugs,
and thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
And then need air conditioning in my room?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Maybe a cruise. What do you think we'll do it
on a boat?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Are you ready?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Are you ready to find love?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Joan?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I really want love. I want to have somebody in
my life. I feel like life is better when you
share it with somebody. I truly believe all of that.
As far as my heart being completely open, I think
it's nine tenths of the way there. So I think
I just need to spend a little more time in
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like an environment like the bachelor environment. I so am not,
like I really want to find love. I just don't
want to go to the work of going on a
dating website. If there was another way to do it,
I would be open to it. I so would be
if there was like a speed dating okay, like remember
the old speed dating thing that people used to do.
I would love to try that, but I don't think
they do it anymore. Or I would love to go
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to an event that had like a bunch of people
just like me and you guys, like men and women,
all of our age, and you just could walk around
with a glass of wine and talk to each other.
Like I feel like that's so much more natural and
you really get to know somebody.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I also think the right one, When he is the
right one, you're gonna know it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But how do you meet somebody? Is
the well, the initial step that it seems to be.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
John, I want to know, like seriously, Susan touched on
it though, what advice would you have?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
People ask me. Since my husband passed away, people ask
me what dating advice would you give people? It's easy,
easier I think to give dating advice to people in
their twenties and thirties. But what advice would you give
to somebody you know in the or sixties in seventies
who really want to date and find someone.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
What's the best piece of advice you'd give them.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
That's a really hard one. So I believe that the
whole message from our season, the message of hope, is
probably the most important thing. So if you have hope,
then you know your next step shit needs to be action.
So I would say, you know, if you believe, if
you feel like your life would be more fulfilled if
you had a partner, like I do feel that way.
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I feel like my life would be better if I
have a partner. And you only get one life to live,
and it's your responsibility to make the best of it.
Nobody else is going to do it for you. Then
you need to take action. And I'm you know, I
should be giving myself fame advice because I feel like
I've been so busy, I haven't taken a lot of action,
and I really do need to do that. And as
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I sit here talking to you, like, I'm like, Okay,
I got to do something. So I think hope and
action need to be together.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
And confidence. What about confidence?
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Confidence? You know, I feel like I've become a lot
more confident. I don't think I was not confident in
the dating world, like I like going out meeting people.
I'm not super shy when it comes to that. But
I felt like I felt more like I deserve it now,
like I deserve having love in my life, not that
it just maybe could happen like I need. Like I
feel confident to go out and seek it out like
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I want it. Like I said, if there was some
way other than a dating app that could get me there,
I'd be there in a heartbeat.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Over the dating apps.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
So have you ever received or what's the best advice
any anybody has given you for dating?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Hmmm? Probably give everybody a chance. So don't don't say
no because of all little things. So yes, what does
it matter if you go out and somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Wait, are we talking hair on his head? Teeth in
his mouth? What are we talking hair?
Speaker 5 (20:08):
Yeah, I'm not speaking about I'm okay with the ball guy.
My husband, my late husband was bold, and I thought
he was very sexy. So that's fine. Got to have
all your teeth, that's good. I want somebody who's fit.
I want somebody who takes care of themselves. I want
somebody who is active, who wants to.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Have no use to guys like you say exactly, yeah, wait,
but I want to know Joan like we both have.
All three of us have kids about the same age.
What do your kids think about you dating, continuing to
date and looking for mister Wright?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So it depends on which kid you ass. I have
four two boys, So one of my sons and one
of my daughters love this idea. So my oldest son,
so number one and number three, Nick and Ally both
love the idea of me dating. They think it's a
really good idea. They Ali is married, Nick is engaged.
Nick has said to me on more than one occasion,
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I want you to have what we have. We have
all found love in our life for my kids, love
you are in relationships. They and he said, I want
you to have what we have. And I've always said,
I don't want to be a burden on you guys.
You know I don't want to you know, grow all alone,
and you guys think of to take care of me.
He goes, First of all, Mom, You'll never be a
burden hoist. We love being with you and my kids
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do I think they come over here all the time.
I love being with them. They're my favorite people in
the world, and luckily they like being with me still.
But they do realize that my life would be better,
you know, if I didn't just have to rely on
them for my you know, I have lots of friends
for social interaction, but they want me to have love.
So two of them want me to. I think they
all four want me to have love. Two of them
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are okay with me actually like doing something about it.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Do you think they would be very accepted, like they'll
accept whoever it is, or do you think any of
them will be like, mom, he's not the one. Are
they opinionated like that or so?
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I think it depends on like the degree, Like if
they if I was with somebody that they really thought
was not a good person or something like that, they
would tell me. Absolutely they would tell me. But I think,
you know.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Would you like.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Yeah, I think I would because I think that they
have my best interest in mind, so I think I
would listen. Yeah, But I think in general they would
never say anything if they knew I liked somebody or
feelings for somebody, they would never say anything unless it
was pretty major.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
And how long before you would introduce a gentleman to
your family.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
Yeah, that's a good question. I have introduced one or
two guys to them.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Like where are they? I want their numbers?
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Do I just so as I wasn't really ready. So
I think my kids knew that these were not long
term people. I just like I invited them over for
dinner or something. It wasn't like some like here's my family,
I want you to meet so and so, like we're
really serious. It was just like always going to come
over and watch the super Bowl with us or something.
You know, it's pretty meaningful. So I introduced them, but
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it wasn't like this is the guy and I want
you to meet him and like, you know him be
a part of your life too.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like I know, personally, I got nervous when it was
time to meet my sons.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I was like, oh, God, are they hard on?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
They No, not not in the moment, but I'll hear
something later. Oh is that right.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
No, they didn't like them, No, they liked them.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
They just it was me, Okay, I'm gonna I got
to ask the question the elephant in the room, given
what's happened recently, Joan, if you found the guy you love,
would you move?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (23:43):
So I have like a vision of how this would work,
because certainly in our age and especially with what we
just did, we just did a whole show about like,
you know, how do you meet somebody and end up
being with them? Like that was a subject certainly, and
that's it was the first thing that Gary asked me, like,
how do you if I live in you live in Maryland,
how in the world would we make that work or
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how would you see that working? And my reply was,
and I still believe this is that you have to
have more than one home because I'm not willing to
leave my kids and my family and really my friends.
My still mother is ninety two years old, so like
I have to be here. She relies on me, so
does my mother in law. So I would not leave here.
I couldn't leave here, honestly, I would be deserting people
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that need me. So I could envision, and that being said,
I wouldn't want a guy to leave his family for me,
because that tells me something about him. If he would
leave his family for me, then he does not have
the same kind of relationship with his family that I
have with mine, and we're not going to be compatible.
That's just not going to work.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So we're gonna have two homes.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
We have two homes and go back and forth and
then maybe have one more home. So I already have
a home.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
The way I'm available, I'm available to be a yeah
where you know.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
A vacation home where everybody needs his kids, my kids, grandchildren,
you know, where everybody would enjoy being and we could
be a big, happy family.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
It is so nice of you to invite Susan and
me to come. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
When the kids aren't there, your guys are there and
if you.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Can to right, absolutely, I just got to find the
guy and then the three homes.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But that's just a detail to work.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Okay, we're going to play a little game, and this
is for all three of us. Okay, it's about relationships
and what would you rather Okay, you're ready? Oh no,
would you rather cook a fancy meal together or order
in takeout?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Oh gosh, well it probably depends on the day, So weekday,
order in take out whatever, But on a weekend, So
one of my favorite date activities is cooking with a
guy with like a couple of bottles of wine, and
some good food and some music on in the background.
Seen in the kitchen, drinking wine, having fun cooking, and
then sitting down and you know, sometimes it's eleven o'clock
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at night by the time you get the meal done after,
you know, goofing off and playing, having a great meal.
And it's one of my favorite dates, honestly, So I'm
gonna have to do that one.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm feeling like you read my profile when I was
online dating.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Because that's exactly what I wrote it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Okay, yeah, Wait, what do you think I would do?
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I know the Oh god, no fancy restaurant?
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Take you out?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
What do you think, Susan, you would definitely order out?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You're both wrong. I am right with Joan. If I
could find a guy who.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Would who's gonna cook with?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Who do you cook with me?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Exactly what Joan said, music, have a bottle of wine,
could do.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
It with it. What I don't like is cooking by myself.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Wait a minute, I've known you how long and you're
admitting that you do know how to cook, you just
don't like to do it alone.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Wow, Joana, First, that's true.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Though, that's true.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I love it. Okay, here's another one.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Would you prefer to work out with your partner exercise
together or would you like to do that separately.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
Oh, I'm an ugly exerciser. I gotta do it separately.
I want Tom in the same house as me. I like,
I sweat and I go why am I doing this?
I look terrible out any make of mind. I put
my hair back. I look awful.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Okay, this one's for me is easy. I work, as
you all know, I work out every day. I go
to the gym many days a week. And when I'm
working out, I am not chit chatting, I'm not checking
my phone. I am working out hard. So I'm going
with workout separately.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think I'd like them to be there in case
I'm doing something wrong, Like you need don't.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Bend your knees when you do that, don't your back.
You're going to get hurt.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
You.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
No, Susan's going to.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Say, Babe, lift that weight for me, please, Honey, that
off the black for me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
No.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I got a different I got a hard one for you.
John Ready, John, you know I'm bringing it. Have a
spontaneous sex life or a scheduled one?
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Oh? God, so easy? Spontaneous?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I remember years ago, we had this friend, this couple friend,
and we were over at their house for dinner and
there was like maybe six couples and they were talking
about their Wednesday nights. Oh, it's scheduled every Wednesday. And
I walked out of there. I was like, these are
the weirdest people, John, We're not ever going out with
them again they scheduled.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Just wait a second, Joan, Wait a second, Susan. About you,
wait a second, Susan, you get You'll get a second here.
But when I had young kids, and I had three,
you know, you couldn't just say, hey, kids, make your
own dinner, dad, and I gonna go up and hop
in the sack. Right, So when you have young families,
sometimes you have to schedule a date night and what
comes after what comes before. So maybe at this stage
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of life, what about you, Susan.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
When we had kids, we had to get Saturday night
or Friday night whenever the babysitter would come.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
But I like spunked in edity. Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I feel like Saturday night was a given. Like you're
gonna go out, you're and drink a little bit your friends,
and you're probably gonna have sex or come home. But
I feel like, like, you know, like going to bed.
The kids are in.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Bed, and I think Joan just said she has drunk sex.
I think that's what I just heard.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I like it when I least expect it and they
get to turn you on. You know, you're not really
in the mood, but they do the right things. Yeah,
and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Okay, I gotta jump off this podcast. I gotta go
find a guy who wants.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Okay, here's a good one. Would you prefer to travel
the world together or build your dream home together?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Oh god, that's such a hard one.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I like both.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Obviously I have to pick one of those.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Wow, Okay, come on, John, that's not that hard.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's easy. At this stage of the game. We had
our dream homes, we raise kids.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You didn't have your dream home. Who cares go travel
the world? See the world.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
When I think about my dream home, I think about
my family, and I think about everybody coming together in
a beautiful, you know, a place where they all want
to be and they can all stay and enough. So
I do think family when I think dream home. I
don't just think about me. I think about like who
I can share it with but I do agree, and
that was probably my answer, is that I would rather
travel the world because the memories you make are like
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they will last forever.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Jones, sounds like a Hallmark card. I'm just sorry.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
I just love her all right.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Not like your partner's friends or have their friends not
like you. Oh God, that's awful, John't you know I'm
that asking these tough ones.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
That's a really hard one. I think I wouldn't rather
not like them, because in general I can kind of
put up with people, and like you know, you can tolerate,
I can tolerate, and I can maybe steer conversations to
things that maybe don't offend me about them, like or whatever.
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I feel like I can manipulate an environment enough that
I could stand them if my significant other really loved
them and they were his really good friends. But I
don't think I could change the way I act for them.
I don't think I ever would. I wouldn't be willing
to do that. So I would rather not like them
and figure it out than them not like me.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And I agree with you, and i'd say, when he
wants to be with his friends, you go ahead, babe,
I'm going to go out with girls.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah, right, with my friends.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Yeah, I know, I agree with all that. I got
to say, we're all through the same page on that one.
All right, what about this one, John, go to a
concert together or go to with sporting event together?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Oh gosh, that's a hard one. I love both.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
So again I'm the both girl.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
But I know these are hard because so I think
I'd rather go to a sporting event. I think that
there's more time for like social interaction with a person
when you're at a sporting event and you can you know,
you're with other people around you, and I don't know,
for some reason, a sporting event seems more interactive to
me than a concert. You're you're a viewer. At a concert,
You're you can talk still, you can eat, you can die,
(32:32):
you can walk in and have a drink, you can
come back out watch the game. There's more to do
at a sporting event with a.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Partner, And it depends on what kind of concert it
is too.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I mean, I'm just going to say the concerts I've
been to, I've been at the heavens looking at a
screen six miles away. I would have been better staying
at home and watching a sporting event you know, you
get pretty close to the basketball court or a soccer field.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean yeah, you know, there's a lot of energy
in the stadium with you. It's fun like it's just like, yeah,
I love going to sporting events.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, okay, how about this one.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Plan a surprise for your partner or be surprised.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Oh, I love to plan it. I'm a party planner.
I love to do parties. I ave planning. Nom yeah,
I'd rather And I'm not particularly good at being surprised.
I'm like a daring head white surpime surprise. I've had
one surprise party. Well, I had surprise baby shower or
bridal shower, and then I had one I think it
was my fiftieth birthday when they surprised me and I
couldn't speak for like five minutes.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Not that you're a control or anything.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I'm laughing.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I am laughing because I graduated college many moons after
I got married, and my husband told me about my
surprise graduation party, and then he told me about my
surprise baby shower another.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Day because he couldn't hold a secret.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
And the funny thing is, the funny thing is everyone
thinks that Kathy cannot keep a secret. I'm the best
secret keeper for my husband. My husband could not keep
a secret. And I used to say, Tom, this is
so not fair. Everyone thinks that you could keep a
secret and that I give away the secrets. And he
used to look at me and left, go, I know,
(34:12):
isn't it great?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
So I feel like it's really difficult to surprise me
because I miss know it all and I'm very and
like you, Joan, I like to plan them, but I
think I would like to be surprised once.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Yeah, I have been and I was like, I was,
like I said, I was speechless.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
So that's how about you?
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Would you rather plan her surprise?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Joe? I barely cook? Are you serious?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
There? She goes. She's admitting, Joan, did you write that record?
Speaker 5 (34:42):
This? She keeps going back and forth on this whole
cooking day.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It depends on the guy. It depends on the guy.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
She'll think it if she's in Like, no, and I
like the guy.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I'm cooking for him.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Okay, the store and get cook. Okay we have another
one or two? Oh well this okay? Us bad date
someone who doesn't like pets, or date someone with ten pets.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I mean that's a no brainer.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Wait, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Before wait a minute, Joan has a dog that she
walks once a day, so let's let's go with that.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
You're supposed to say that.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Sorry.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
But he's good that way.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
So yeah, if he doesn't love, if he doesn't like pets,
I'm okay with it. I'm not getting rid of my dog.
But if he doesn't, if he doesn't come over to
my house and go make a big deal about my dog,
it's perfectly fine. I am not living in a house
or going out with somebody who's ten pets. That's pew.
I feel like that person might have maybe a little
mental issue.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I can smell it and see the hair everywhere.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
All right, guys, guys, a mad note. We That does
it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours, Old then Hour.
Thank you Jones so much for joining us. It's been grand.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
It's so fun catching up with you. And we have
to set a date for our get together. By the way,
as a matter of.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Fact, you guys, now, I'm having my out back alreaddone,
the pool, the deck, everything, So we're trying to plan something.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So I'll get you the info.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Okay, I'm on the I'll be on the text chain.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
All right.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Well.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
In the meantime, you guys, be sure to follow us
on Bachelor Happy Hour as we as you know, we
always have new episodes coming out every weekend a week
and you don't want.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
To miss them, and make sure you submit your questions
to us because we do answer them. And you can
go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour and hit
us up on social media at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio
app or wherever.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You listen to podcasts.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Until next time time, Take care, Hi Joan, love you guys.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Bye.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Thanks for having me, Thanks for coming
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Serena Pitt
Kathy Swarts
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