‘Dreams of Killing Her’: Friend Recounts Disturbing Talk with O.J. Simpson the Day After Murder of Ex-Wife

O.J. Simpson didn’t want to take a lie detector test in the wake of the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman, according to his one-time friend Ron Shipp.

Shortly after the shocking June 12, 1994, murders of Simpson’s ex-wife and Goldman, the disgraced NFL great was called in by detectives for questioning.

“He went down there, and they questioned him on all and why his finger was cut, all those different things,” Shipp, a retired LAPD officer who was a longtime friend of Simpson’s, tells PEOPLE.

Simpson told him LAPD detectives asked him to take a lie detector test. “And I said, ‘What did you do?’" Shipp recalls. 

Simpson told him he didn’t take the test.

“But it turns out that he did take it,” Shipp recalls. “Nobody really knew that. But I guess he failed miserably, but I didn't know it either,” Shipp says. “He told me he didn't want to take it. And I said, ‘Why?’ and he said, because he had dreams of killing her."

Shipp says he was shocked. “I said, ‘Man, you had dreams of killing her? And he goes, ‘Yeah. But I didn't want that. I didn't want to take it because I didn't want the needle to pop up or something like that." 

Shipp went on to become a witness for the prosecution and testified about this conversation at Simpson’s criminal trial.

Shipp previously spoke to PEOPLE when he was featured in the Academy Award-winning ABC/ESPN documentary series O.J.: Made in America.

He said he became suspicious by the cut on Simpson's hand, and that Simpson allegedly “changed his story about the cut three different times.”

Further increasing Shipp’s suspicions that Simpson committed the murders was when he asked him about DNA.

“He did ask, ‘How long does it take DNA to come back?’ And I  think I told him at the time about two months or something,” he recalls.

Given all the questions Simpson had that evening “and everything we talked about, when I left that house, I knew he did it," Shipp says. "There was just no if, ands or buts.”

He believed Simpson invited him over so soon after the murders to pick his brain because he had once been an LAPD officer.

“That's one of the reasons I think he kept me that night,” Shipp says. But I was [retired] by then, but he just wanted me to  answer all these questions so I guess he could feel good about himself or think, ‘Oh, I'm going to jail.’”

Simpson fell asleep so Shipp started to leave, but one of his sisters asked him to stay.

"I was broken-hearted, and I really kept asking myself, ‘Why am I still here?’ You're thinking in your mind that he killed her," Shipp says. "It’s still a shock to me, and you're praying and you're thinking, ‘Yeah, I hope you didn't do this.’ But it had all the things that made me think, ‘You killed your wife.’"