random vs whrandom (was RE: [Python-Dev] Unittests)

[Neal Norwitz]

Guido van Rossum wrote:
> 
> > I added warnings to statcache & xmllib which are deprecated in the docs.
> > Any others need to be done?  Should statcache be removed from test_sundry?
> > Should any modules be moved into lib-old?  posixfile?
> 
> A good exercise would be to do a 1-minute review of every module in
> the library and decide for yourself if you'd deprecate it if you were
> BDFL.  I'll gladly review the list.

Here's a long list of issues for dealing with deprecation 
in the standard library.

Recommend to move to lib-old:

FCNTL     deprecated 2001/05/09 - libundoc.tex (under obsolete-modules)
gopherlib in pep 4, before oct 2000 - not deprecated in code or doc
posixfile in pep 4, before oct 2000 - not deprecated in code, 1.5 in docs
regsub    deprecated 2000/12/19 - libundoc.tex (under obsolete-modules)
stringold not deprecated in code - not documented anywhere
tzparse   libundoc.tex (under obsolete-modules)
TERMIOS   deprecated 2001/02/27 - not documented anywhere

Python modules I recommend for deprecation:

audiodev

C modules I recommend for deprecation (not sure what
to do to deprecate these, update PEP 4 and comment out of Setup?):
dlmodule
mpzmodule
pcremodule
pypcremodule
rotormodule
stropmodule
yuvconvert

# SGI specific modules, is there any use for these anymore???
almodule
cdmodule
clmodule
flmodule
fmmodule
imgfile
sgimodule
svmodule

Should there be a deprecation schedule or estimate for modules 
we know will become obsolete to give an approximate time?  
Regex comes to mind.

Should User{Dict, List, String} be deprecated since one can derive
from {dict, list, str}?  
Or perhaps scheduled to be deprecated at some point in the future?
Should library uses of UserDict (List & String aren't used) 
be converted to new instances deriving from {}?  
UserDict is used in:
    cgi.FormContentDict
    cookie.Morsel
    cookie.BaseCookie
    os._Environ
    weakref.WeakKeyDictionary
    weakref.WeakValueDictionary

How should deprecated classes/functions/methods be handled?
    htmllib.HTMLParser.do_nextid()
    pty.master_open()
    pty.slave_open()
    pstats.Stats.ignore()
    random.Random.randint()
    rfc822.AddrlistClass
    string.zfill()

How should deprecated parameter usage be handled?
(ie, can call with no params, but should always use 1+ params)
    Cookie.Cookie()

Should we (re)move everything that was deprecated in 1.5.2/1.6
or earlier?  Or perhaps even 2.0?  This info is from the docs:

    array.read()                    - 1.5.1
    array.write()                   - 1.5.1
    cmpcache                        - 1.6
    cmp                             - 1.6
    operator.sequenceIncludes       - 2.0
    operator.isCallable             - 2.0
    posixfile                       - 1.5
    profile.Stats.ignore()          - 1.5.1
    random.Random.randint()         - 2.0
    string.atof()                   - 2.0
    string.atoi()                   - 2.0
    string.atol()                   - 2.0
    sys.exc_traceback               - 1.5
    tempfile.template               - 2.0
    sys.exit_thread                 - 1.5.2

Neal