- From: Diego Berrueta <diego.berrueta@fundacionctic.org>
- Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:20:39 +0200
- To: SWD Working Group <public-swd-wg@w3.org>
The [1]record of yestersday's Semantic Web Deployment WG
telecon is ready for review. A text copy follows below.
[1] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-minutes.html
Topics
1. Admin
2. SKOS
3. Recipes
4. Vocabulary Management
5. RDFa
6. AOB
Summary of Resolutions
RESOLUTION: accepted minutes of 17 Apr 2007
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Diego to send the review of GRDDL spec [recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Antoine to make a proposal about SKOS Use Case
document [recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to provide feedback on GRDDL Last Call Doc
[recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to send a summary of status of components of
specifications will be handled [recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Guus revise his ISSUE-26 proposal to account for
other options
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[recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: TomB to start questionnaire on date for f2f
[recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Alistair to write up two alternatives for
representing Collections
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[recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Elisa to provide outline of work to be done by Apr
17 [44]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[recorded in
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[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3
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[recorded in
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[DONE] ACTION: Antoine, Jon, Daniel respond to the SKOS Use Case
reviews, target a decision to publish on 17 April
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[recorded in
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[DONE] ACTION: Diego to review GRDDL Last Call Doc. Discuss briefly
at next week's call [recorded in
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[DROPPED] ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation
requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal
values, and how to represent that in skos
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[recorded in
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[DROPPED] ACTION: Alan to write up the preferredLabel modelling
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[recorded in
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The full text of the minutes follows.
Semantic Web Deployment Working Group
24 Apr 2007
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Apr/0030.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2007/04/24-swd-irc
Attendees
Present
Diego Berrueta, Bernard Horan, Ralph Swick, Alistair Miles,
Simone Onofri, Antoine Isaac, Guus Schreiber, Daniel Rubin,
Tom Baker
Regrets
Jon Philips, Vit Novacek, Elisa Kendall
Chair
Guus Schreiber
Scribe
Diego Berrueta
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]Admin
2. [6]SKOS
3. [7]Recipes
4. [8]Vocabulary Management
5. [9]RDFa
6. [10]AOB
* [11]Summary of Action Items
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Admin
PROPOSED to accept minutes of 17 April telecon:
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RESOLUTION: accepted minutes
tomb proposed next telecon May 8
<RalphS> Ralph: regrets for 8 May; meetings in Banff
<scribe> ACTION: TomB to start questionnaire on date for f2f
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RalphS: we should revise this action
... week of November 4th or the week of November 11th?
SKOS
Antoine: still waiting for answers
... I don't know what should be done now
... if we got positive answers, we could give a version a week after
guus: we can discuss the comments in a later telecon. We need to
publish this
... common way to respond to good documents is to make them optional
... ping reviewers with the new version
<RalphS> [14]Re: [SKOS] Review of SKOS Use Cases and Requirements
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<scribe> ACTION: Antoine to make a proposal about SKOS Use Case
document [recorded in
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[CONTINUES]
<scribe> ACTION: Antoine, Jon, Daniel respond to the SKOS Use Case
reviews, target a decision to publish on 17 April
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[recorded in
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guus: propose to drop the actions on Alan
<TomB> +1 to drop the actions
<scribe> ACTION: Alan to write up the preferredLabel modelling issue
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<scribe> ACTION: Alan to write down the general documentation
requirements, in particular to those that are related to literal
values, and how to represent that in skos
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guus: i've been very busy. Any volunteer (to tackle ISSUE-26)?
<scribe> ACTION: Guus revise his ISSUE-26 proposal to account for
other options
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<scribe> ACTION: Alistair to write up two alternatives for
representing Collections
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guus: we should start making progress in the issues now
aliman: i suggest relationship with OWL(-DL)
... alan has been cc'ing me in a discussion about OWL 1.1
<RalphS> [Alistair, could you give us a pointer to the owl 1.1
thread archive?]
aliman: we should address mapping between concept schemes
... it doesn't look difficult
guus: i discussed with daniel 2 weeks ago
aliman: should we have narrower, broader across schemes?
daniel: some domains may use more specific properties
guus: we have to give a guideline about equivalence
... skos:skos:related is too general, skos:broader/narrower are too
specific
aliman: what's the difference between skos:related and
skos:similarTo?
guus: similarTo may be a subproperty of related
aliman: how the retrieval applications should operate on these
properties?
... the only way to define the semantics of these properties is
through operational uses
... let's think about how retrieval applications should treat these
properties in order to determine their semantics
Antoine: actually what you propose as operational semantics of
narrower/broader is just one interpretation
... so we don't have the absolute definition of the properties
aliman: you're absolutely right, but it should be at least "the most
reasonable" way to operationally use these properties
guss: this operational semantics should be a guideline, not a
definition
Antoine: this moves us to the compound concepts
... issue about provenance seems difficult
aliman: probably related with versioning
... SKOS has no notion of version
guus: (about versioning in SKOS) maybe we can't solve this in this
WG
aliman: we should have this on the table anyway
guus: I can't see anything specific to SKOS
<aliman> I note that at leasting talking about versioning, both in
relation to SKOS specifically, and in relation to RDF and OWL
vocabularies more generally, is in our charter, within the
Vocabulary Management work area.
Recipes
<scribe> ACTION: Ralph propose resolution to Recipe issue 1.3
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Vocabulary Management
<scribe> ACTION: Elisa to provide outline of work to be done by Apr
17 [28]http://www.w3.org/2007/04/03-swd-minutes.html#action01]
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RDFa
guus: what's the status?
RalphS: sorry, I couldn't attend to yesterday's meeting
<scribe> ACTION: Ben to send a summary of status of components of
specifications will be handled [recorded in
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<RalphS> [31]record of yesterday's RDFa TF telecon
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<RalphS> Simone: RDFa TF discussing issues with W3C validator
<RalphS> ... compatibility of new requirements with current W3C
validator
<RalphS> ... also discussing issue of literals, may be similar to a
literal issue in SKOS
guus: (to Simone) please summarize through the list
AOB
<RalphS> [32]GRDDL spec review [Diego]
[32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Apr/0029.html
guus: let's suggest to add a paragraph about when to use GRDDL and
when to use RDFa
RalphS: it's better to simply say that there are two alternatives
guus: this may confuse readers
<scribe> ACTION: Diego to send the review of GRDDL spec [recorded in
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<TomB> okay, is that a response from the SWD WG if Diego sends it?
<RalphS> yes, thanks, Diego, for the GRDDL review
<scribe> ACTION: Diego to review GRDDL Last Call Doc. Discuss
briefly at next week's call [recorded in
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<RalphS> Tom, I believe the record is sufficient to show that Diego
was asked to comment on behalf of the WG and this meeting discussed
his review briefly but we did not ask for a WG consensus
No further business, meeting adjourned
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