Subject: fonts-cmu: cm-unicode sources are not included in your package
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 21:59:25 -0400
Package: fonts-cmu
Version: 0.7.0-2
Severity: serious
User: [email protected]
Usertags: source-is-missing
Hi,
Your package seems to include some files that lack source in the
prefered form for modification.
[all of the font files, which according to the README were built using
some scripts]
According to Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] (DFSG) #2:
"The program must include source code, and must allow distribution
in source code as well as compiled form.".
This could also constitute a license violation for some copyleft
licenses such as the GNU GPL.
In order to solve this problem, you'd presumably have to redo the
packaging to build from the *source* tarball, available at:
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/cm-unicode/files/cm-unicode/0.7.0/cm-unicode-0.7.0-src.tar.xz>
Since texlive-fonts-extra is missing the same sources (though for
different binaries), presumably the new package should build packages
for each output format, and texlive-fonts-extra should drop its
cm-unicode font files and just depend on the new
fonts-cm-unicode-{otf,pfb} packages. (Are those the proper names?)
(I've actually already begun trying to make the source tarball into a
buildable package.)
You could also ask [email protected] or #debian-qa for more
guidance.
[1] https://www.debian.org/social_contract.en.html#guidelines
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(Sun, 13 Apr 2014 02:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: Bug#744333: fonts-cmu: cm-unicode sources are not included in
your package
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 11:28:48 +0900
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014, Samuel Bronson wrote:
> Your package seems to include some files that lack source in the
> prefered form for modification.
I disagree. Good luck ...
The process of builkding and assemblying fonts to proper otf/ttf/pfb
is a non-trivial and non-automated task.
We on TeX Live consider *upstream* (that is what is Up-upstream for
Debian/TeX Live) what is uploaded to CTAN.
Anyway, good luck in your quest .. I have just a few hours ago
posted concerning this ...
http://www.preining.info/blog/2014/04/end-tex-live-debian/
> (I've actually already begun trying to make the source tarball into a
> buildable package.)
Good luck. I expect binary equal font outputs, md5sum/sha256sum
equivalence, please.
Norbert
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(Sun, 13 Apr 2014 07:24:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
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Quoting Samuel Bronson ([email protected]):
> Package: fonts-cmu
> Version: 0.7.0-2
> Severity: serious
> User: [email protected]
> Usertags: source-is-missing
>
> Hi,
>
> Your package seems to include some files that lack source in the
> prefered form for modification.
>
> [all of the font files, which according to the README were built using
> some scripts]
>
> According to Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] (DFSG) #2:
> "The program must include source code, and must allow distribution
> in source code as well as compiled form.".
Font files, as provided in this package, allow modification. There is
nothing in the DFSG that enforces the use of the original format used
by upstream (which in many cases involves using non-free tools).
See Norbert arguments for details but this bug is in no way release
critical.
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(Sun, 13 Apr 2014 07:33:14 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
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thanks
I really should use a spellchecker..;-)
>
> Quoting Samuel Bronson ([email protected]):
> > Package: fonts-cmu
> > Version: 0.7.0-2
> > Severity: serious
> > User: [email protected]
> > Usertags: source-is-missing
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Your package seems to include some files that lack source in the
> > prefered form for modification.
> >
> > [all of the font files, which according to the README were built using
> > some scripts]
> >
> > According to Debian Free Software Guidelines [1] (DFSG) #2:
> > "The program must include source code, and must allow distribution
> > in source code as well as compiled form.".
>
>
> Font files, as provided in this package, allow modification. There is
> nothing in the DFSG that enforces the use of the original format used
> by upstream (which in many cases involves using non-free tools).
>
> See Norbert arguments for details but this bug is in no way release
> critical.
>
>
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(Sun, 13 Apr 2014 09:48:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#744333: Bug#744333: fonts-cmu: cm-unicode
sources are not included in your package
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2014 17:43:56 +0800
On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Font files, as provided in this package, allow modification. There is
> nothing in the DFSG that enforces the use of the original format used
> by upstream (which in many cases involves using non-free tools).
>
> See Norbert arguments for details but this bug is in no way release
> critical.
I very much disagree with this interpretation.
--
bye,
pabs
http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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(Mon, 14 Apr 2014 04:21:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Quoting Paul Wise (2014-04-13 11:43:56)
> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
>
>> Font files, as provided in this package, allow modification. There is
>> nothing in the DFSG that enforces the use of the original format used
>> by upstream (which in many cases involves using non-free tools).
>>
>> See Norbert arguments for details but this bug is in no way release
>> critical.
>
> I very much disagree with this interpretation.
Me too.
To avoid repeating arguments, I recommend to read especially Ben's posts
to a recent related discussion at the Javascript list - starting in the
middle at this one:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-javascript-devel/2014-March/007247.html
- Jonas
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(Mon, 14 Apr 2014 04:54:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#744333: Bug#744333: fonts-cmu: cm-unicode
sources are not included in your package
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:51:35 +0900
Hi Christian,
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Font files, as provided in this package, allow modification. There is
> nothing in the DFSG that enforces the use of the original format used
> by upstream (which in many cases involves using non-free tools).
Yes indeed. But there is an easy way - we remove practically all
fonts from Debian, as well as of TeX ...
- we don't build the otf/ttf from the native (proprietary) format
- we don't buils sty/tex/cls files from the dtx
- we don't build pdf from sources
Consequence - all of that has to be removed ... yeah, sounds like
a reasonable way.
Christian, what about us two starting an upload session of hundreds
of emptied out packages to make sure Debian is not inflitrated
by bad things like TeX and Fonts? Would you join in? ;-)
All the best
Norbert
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Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Bug#744333: Bug#744333: Bug#744333:
Bug#744333: fonts-cmu: cm-unicode sources are not included in your package
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 13:52:12 +0900
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> To avoid repeating arguments, I recommend to read especially Ben's posts
> to a recent related discussion at the Javascript list - starting in the
None of which was convincing to me.
Norbert
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