Debian Bug report logs - #364847
manpages-dev: includes material copied verbatim from the gfdl glibc manual

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Package: manpages-dev; Maintainer for manpages-dev is Dr. Tobias Quathamer <[email protected]>; Source for manpages-dev is src:manpages (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>

Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:33:05 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: help, moreinfo, upstream

Found in version manpages-dev/2.22-1

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From: Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: manpages-dev: includes material copied verbatim from the gfdl glibc manual
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:20:27 -0400
Package: manpages-dev
Version: 2.22-1
Severity: serious

I think this manpage crosses the line; it is "distributed under GPL",
yet the content is copied nearly-verbatim from the glibc manual.

"The GNU C library lets you modify the behavior of..." *is* a copy,
and the example code is pretty much a sized-down copy, too.

I make no claim but that this manpage should not be distributed as is
with a "gpl" annotation.



Information forwarded to [email protected], Martin Schulze <[email protected]>:
Bug#364847; Package manpages-dev. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Steve Langasek <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <[email protected]>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #10 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>
To: Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#364847: manpages-dev: includes material copied verbatim from the gfdl glibc manual
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:33:17 -0700
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severity 364847 normal
thanks

On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:20:27AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> Package: manpages-dev
> Version: 2.22-1
> Severity: serious

> I think this manpage crosses the line; it is "distributed under GPL",
> yet the content is copied nearly-verbatim from the glibc manual.

> "The GNU C library lets you modify the behavior of..." *is* a copy,
> and the example code is pretty much a sized-down copy, too.

> I make no claim but that this manpage should not be distributed as is
> with a "gpl" annotation.

Works may be licensed under multiple licenses, perhaps released at different
times in their history.  Unless you have evidence that the contents of
manpages-dev got there by making a copy from the GFDLed manual, I don't
believe we should treat this as a serious license problem.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
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Information forwarded to [email protected], Martin Schulze <[email protected]>:
Bug#364847; Package manpages-dev. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <[email protected]>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #15 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#364847: manpages-dev: includes material copied verbatim from the gfdl glibc manual
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 01:34:56 -0400
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:33:17PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> severity 364847 normal
> thanks
> 
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:20:27AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > Package: manpages-dev
> > Version: 2.22-1
> > Severity: serious
> 
> > I think this manpage crosses the line; it is "distributed under GPL",
> > yet the content is copied nearly-verbatim from the glibc manual.
> 
> > "The GNU C library lets you modify the behavior of..." *is* a copy,
> > and the example code is pretty much a sized-down copy, too.
> 
> > I make no claim but that this manpage should not be distributed as is
> > with a "gpl" annotation.
> 
> Works may be licensed under multiple licenses, perhaps released at different
> times in their history.  Unless you have evidence that the contents of
> manpages-dev got there by making a copy from the GFDLed manual, I don't
> believe we should treat this as a serious license problem.
.\" Heavily based on glibc documentation



Severity set to `normal'. Request was from Steve Langasek <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to [email protected], Martin Schulze <[email protected]>:
Bug#364847; Package manpages-dev. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Steve Langasek <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <[email protected]>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #22 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>
To: Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bug#364847: manpages-dev: includes material copied verbatim from the gfdl glibc manual
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:07:05 -0700
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:34:56AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:33:17PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > severity 364847 normal
> > thanks

> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:20:27AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > > Package: manpages-dev
> > > Version: 2.22-1
> > > Severity: serious

> > > I think this manpage crosses the line; it is "distributed under GPL",
> > > yet the content is copied nearly-verbatim from the glibc manual.

> > > "The GNU C library lets you modify the behavior of..." *is* a copy,
> > > and the example code is pretty much a sized-down copy, too.

> > > I make no claim but that this manpage should not be distributed as is
> > > with a "gpl" annotation.

> > Works may be licensed under multiple licenses, perhaps released at different
> > times in their history.  Unless you have evidence that the contents of
> > manpages-dev got there by making a copy from the GFDLed manual, I don't
> > believe we should treat this as a serious license problem.
> .\" Heavily based on glibc documentation

Which doesn't show that it was copied from the GFDLed manual.  It's clear
that the GFDL manual and the manpages have a common ancestry, yes; but
earlier incarnations of FSF manuals were released under different licenses,
and it may be that both works share a common ancestry that permitted
derivative works under both licenses rather than one work being a derivative
of the other.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
[email protected]                                   http://www.debian.org/
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Information forwarded to [email protected], Martin Schulze <[email protected]>:
Bug#364847; Package manpages-dev. (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Martin Schulze <[email protected]>. (full text, mbox, link).


Message #27 received at [email protected] (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Justin Pryzby <[email protected]>
To: Steve Langasek <[email protected]>, [email protected], Walter Harms <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Bug#364847: manpages-dev: includes material copied verbatim from the gfdl glibc manual
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:56:27 -0400
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 11:07:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 01:34:56AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:33:17PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > severity 364847 normal
> > > thanks
> 
> > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:20:27AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > > > Package: manpages-dev
> > > > Version: 2.22-1
> > > > Severity: serious
> 
> > > > I think this manpage crosses the line; it is "distributed under GPL",
> > > > yet the content is copied nearly-verbatim from the glibc manual.
> 
> > > > "The GNU C library lets you modify the behavior of..." *is* a copy,
> > > > and the example code is pretty much a sized-down copy, too.
> 
> > > > I make no claim but that this manpage should not be distributed as is
> > > > with a "gpl" annotation.
> 
> > > Works may be licensed under multiple licenses, perhaps released at different
> > > times in their history.  Unless you have evidence that the contents of
> > > manpages-dev got there by making a copy from the GFDLed manual, I don't
> > > believe we should treat this as a serious license problem.
> > .\" Heavily based on glibc documentation
> 
> Which doesn't show that it was copied from the GFDLed manual.  It's clear
> that the GFDL manual and the manpages have a common ancestry, yes; but
> earlier incarnations of FSF manuals were released under different licenses,
> and it may be that both works share a common ancestry that permitted
> derivative works under both licenses rather than one work being a derivative
> of the other.
glibc_2.2.5.orig.tar.gz, dated 25-Jan-2002, is under the gfdl.   

Walter, could you comment on the derivation of the content of the
malloc_hook.3 manpage?  I'm of the impression that material was copied
from the glibc documentation, although the header on the manpage
indicates that it is gpl.

Justin



Tags added: upstream Request was from Martin Schulze <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (full text, mbox, link).


Tags added: help Request was from Martin Schulze <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (full text, mbox, link).


Tags added: moreinfo Request was from Martin Schulze <[email protected]> to [email protected]. (full text, mbox, link).


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